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PJABBER said:
How about if you make a thread about your opinion/prejudice so you don't go off topic in this one? :awe:
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You made the claim in your post above, how about you back up your assertion?

I have done my side, and showed numerous studies showing fox news viwers to be the most wrong.
 
Didn't seem to be a problem when Cheney, by proxy of Scooter Libby, outed Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operative.
 
JKing106 said:
Didn't seem to be a problem when Cheney, by proxy of Scooter Libby, outed Valerie Plame, an undercover CIA operative.
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That's a lie. Cheney didn't "out" anyone. In fact there was no crime of "outing" at all. May I suggest you actually read what happened and the findings of Mr. Patrick J. Fitzgerald.
 
The author speaks out on his book:

"My hope is that it gives my fellow Americans a glimpse into how much of an honor it is to serve our country," Owen said. "It is written with respect for my fellow service members while adhering to my strict desire not to disclose confidential or sensitive information that would compromise national security in any way."


No word on yet on how he feels about Fox channeling Scooter Libby in it's need to jeopardize his life, his family, and the safety of other SEALs.
 
kage69 said:
No word on yet on how he feels about Fox channeling Scooter Libby in it's need to jeopardize his life, his family, and the safety of other SEALs.
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Scooter had nothing to do with the release of any national intelligence. You really must read more.
 
blankslate said:
'Course not he just took the fall for it. but hey his sentence was commuted.
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Again.... LOL!

Took the fall for what? There was no crime committed. Scooter lied during the investigation. That's a no-no. I have no sympathy for him. He's a big boy.

The bottom line was and is, there was no outting of anyone.
 
a777pilot said:
Scooter had nothing to do with the release of any national intelligence. You really must read more.
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Intelligence operatives and the info they deal in is national intelligence. Front companies and local assets that are used to help get it are intelligence assets. All three were compromised by the Plame outing. The CIA didn't take kindly to someone blowing her cover, which is why they asked for an investigation and for the culprit to be prosecuted. That imbroglio goes farther than Valerie, she was just the face of it. Regardless, your need to focus on "national intelligence" when I said "his life, his family, and the safety of other SEALs" is pretty telling. It's that need to be obtuse, that need to re-form what people are talking about that makes you cybersuck to the degree you do.

Speaking of reading troll, maybe you noticed the title of this thread? I love you mindless partisan drones and the penchant you have to prove critics right. I muse that the new age GOP and it's followers at Fox give a shit about enlisted right up unto the point said enlisted don't toe a party or ideological line. Then it's "fuck'em, they won't play with our ball, then they can live the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder." I know the GOP eats it's own, I just wanted to believe it didn't apply to the warfighters whom they love to fete and connect themselves to, as often as possible.

But sure enough, stupid ass flowermound comes in, no outrage at all about the honorable meat-eater getting thrown to the wolves, and goes right on to bring up Obama's records before launching into revised history and a spirited defense of that lovable Dick.


Guys like you make people cheer for blood clots.
 
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kage69 said:
Intelligence operatives and the info they deal in is national intelligence. Front companies and local assets that are used to help get it are intelligence assets. All three were compromised by the Plame outing. The CIA didn't take kindly to someone blowing her cover, which is why they asked for an investigation and for the culprit to be prosecuted. That imbroglio goes farther than Valerie, she was just the face of it. Regardless, your need to focus on "national intelligence" when I said "his life, his family, and the safety of other SEALs" is pretty telling. It's that need to be obtuse, that need to re-form what people are talking about that makes you cybersuck to the degree you do.

Speaking of reading troll, maybe you noticed the title of this thread? I love you mindless partisan drones and the penchant you have to prove critics right. I muse that the new age GOP and it's followers at Fox give a shit about enlisted right up unto the point said enlisted don't toe a party or ideological line. Then it's "fuck'em, they won't play with our ball, then they can live the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder." I know the GOP eats it's own, I just wanted to believe it didn't apply to the warfighters whom they love to fete and connect themselves to, as often as possible.

But sure enough, stupid ass flowermound comes in, no outrage at all about the honorable meat-eater getting thrown to the wolves, and goes right on to bring up Obama's records before launching into revised history and a spirited defense of that lovable Dick.


Guys like you make people cheer for blood clots.
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There was no outing. Can't you understand this? There was no outing. None. There was no crime committed.

p.s., I did not start this outling derailment. I did however, respond to it.
 
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a777pilot said:
p.s., I did not start this outling derailment. I did however, respond to it.
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From your very first post in this thread, and I quote:

"It seems the MSM went out of their way to find out who the author of this book was. I'm still waiting for them to get the C-in-C's college, travel and financial records as a young man."

You're such a partisan tool you can't even bring yourself to type that it was Fox that revealed this warriors real name and photograph! Obama's college, travel, and financial records from decades ago is pertinent to this story how exactly?!

Please take your highly sensitive partisan douchebaggery back to the basement and stop thread crapping. You care more about your ax to grind with Obama and sucking Cheney's dick than saying a single thing about Fox helping AQ find this SEAL! The common theme that has with Plamegate might be lost on you, but not for those less naive or concerned with the letter of the law.

Unbelievable.


Others: please don't feed the trolls. I'm not the best at following that rule, but shit for brains has convinced me to renew my efforts.
 
a777pilot said:
Again.... LOL!

Took the fall for what? There was no crime committed. Scooter lied during the investigation. That's a no-no. I have no sympathy for him. He's a big boy.

The bottom line was and is, there was no outting of anyone.
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Now you're trolling...
 
kage69 said:
From your very first post in this thread, and I quote:

"It seems the MSM went out of their way to find out who the author of this book was. I'm still waiting for them to get the C-in-C's college, travel and financial records as a young man."

You're such a partisan tool you can't even bring yourself to type that it was Fox that revealed this warriors real name and photograph! Obama's college, travel, and financial records from decades ago is pertinent to this story how exactly?!

Please take your highly sensitive partisan douchebaggery back to the basement and stop thread crapping. You care more about your ax to grind with Obama and sucking Cheney's dick than saying a single thing about Fox helping AQ find this SEAL! The common theme that has with Plamegate might be lost on you, but not for those less naive or concerned with the letter of the law.

Unbelievable.


Others: please don't feed the trolls. I'm not the best at following that rule, but shit for brains has convinced me to renew my efforts.
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Thank you for the complement.
 
At the time of the outing Valerie Plame was indeed covert.

There wasn't any prosecution beyond Scooter Libby because it wasn't clear they could successfully do so.

http://www.cbsnews.com/2100-501763_162-2865777.html

YES, VALERIE PLAME WAS COVERT....In a court filing today, Patrick Fitzgerald provides a summary of Valerie Plame Wilson's status with the CIA's Counterproliferation Division at the time she was outed to the press by members of the Bush administration. Guess what? She was covert:
While assigned to CPD, Ms. Wilson engaged in temporary duty (TDY) travel overseas on official business. She traveled at least seven times to more than ten countries. When traveling overseas, Ms. Wilson always traveled under a cover identity — sometimes in true name and sometimes in alias — but always using cover — whether official or non-official cover (NOC) — with no ostensible relationship to the CIA.

At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.​
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But obviously she had been working under cover outside the U.S. quite extensively during the previous five years, which means that Plame almost certainly qualified as "covert" under the specific definitions outlined in IIPA. Nonetheless, for some reason Fitzgerald decided not to bring outing charges against anyone. This suggests that Mark Kleiman has been right all along: Fitzgerald's decision had nothing to do with technical aspects of IIPA, but rather with its scienter requirements. That is, the leakers had to know that leaking Plame's name could be damaging, and Fitzgerald didn't think he had the evidence to make that case.
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If he could not make a case, then he had no case.


Under the law she was not a covert agent for over five years, therefore, there was not or could not be any "outing" of her. Which means her so called "outing" did not meet the definitions of any crime.

Once again.....there was no crime committed. Besides even if there had been, the person who "outed" her was Richard Lee Armitage.
 
a777pilot said:
If he could not make a case, then he had no case. Under the law she was not a covert agent for over five years, therefore, there was not or could not be any "outing" of her. Which means her so called "outing" did not meet the definitions of any crime. Once again.....there was no crime committed. Besides even if there had been, the person who "outed" her was Richard Lee Armitage.
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Once again shitty ass post.

in case you missed it the first time....

At the time of the initial unauthorized disclosure in the media of Ms. Wilson's employment relationship with the CIA on 14 July 2003, Ms. Wilson was a covert employee for whom the CIA was taking affirmative measures to conceal her intelligence relationship to the United States.
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a777pilot said:
If he could not make a case, then he had no case.


Under the law she was not a covert agent for over five years, therefore, there was not or could not be any "outing" of her. Which means her so called "outing" did not meet the definitions of any crime.

Once again.....there was no crime committed. Besides even if there had been, the person who "outed" her was Richard Lee Armitage.
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You are making a habit out of being factually wrong. Both Fitzgerald and an official CIA spokesman said Plame's identity was still "classified" at the time she was exposed. All the Bush apologist innuendo suggesting otherwise was empty noise.
 
I have a few friends in the armed forces, serving overseas. They post photos on facebook fairly often. You can clearly see some of the same faces over and over in those photos. You have a good idea who their buddies are over there.

If this is the same for the Seals, then by leaking one name, it really wouldn't be too hard to infer who some of the other Seals are.
 
a777pilot said:
Again.... LOL!

Took the fall for what? There was no crime committed. Scooter lied during the investigation. That's a no-no. I have no sympathy for him. He's a big boy.

The bottom line was and is, there was no outting of anyone.
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There was outing, but the GWB Administration ultimately claimed it was not illegal because Cheney declassified the material supposedly under his authority as Vice President. Anyway an honest viewer looks at it, it was gross misuse of confidential information purely for political retaliation.

Ironically the same people that think Cheney/Scooter/et al did no wrong and are pure as the driven snow are all irate over the supposed scandal of of the Obama administration purportedly leaking secret information about OBL. The double standard viewpoint is truely pathetic.
 
a777pilot said:
No, I am just stating the facts.
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No, you're taking it in the ass for the team, just like that "hero" Ollie North. Fuck morality, gotta toe the line! He should have seen a firing squad, and Reagan should have been impeached. When are you going to take the advice from your sig?
 
JKing106 said:
Yep, just like Reagan had no knowledge of Ollie North's extracurricular activities. Ditto on Nixon and Liddy. Right?
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Dunno about Nixon - too long ago for me to care. It has been shown that Reagan had alzheimers, so he very well might not have remembered, like he claimed. 🙂
 
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