Attorney jobs increasingly outsourced to India

[WhipperSnapper]

Originally posted by: ericlp
Yay!!! I am sure it were the Lawyers that drafted the plans for IT to outsourced now these fuckers can feel what IT has been going through for the past 7-8 years.

I hate Attorney's and I hope that this takes away 60-70% of the jobs here. That will be GREAT! America can SUE everyone! WhooooHoo!!!

Why not hate MBAs and businessmen as well? Who do you think made the decisions to outsource and hired those evil lawyers to draft the related legal documents?

 

[her209]

Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

 

[Phokus]

Originally posted by: her209
Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

At this rate, we should just move everyone to India.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I've been in practice for about a decade now, work in a small firm, and specialize in litigation, so haven't seen any impact from this kind of outsourcing. I think the idea that a large percentage of legal work is being outsourced is a bit of exaggeration. I will say, though, that a lot of big companies have had to rethink their policies of simply ignoring their legal bills with giant firms like Skadden Arps, etc., and the big firms have had to make some concessions to keep the workload high. If the market influence of outsourcing leads to a bit of profit-cutting in Big Law, I have no problem with that.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Safeway

Originally posted by: jagec

Originally posted by: Safeway
I know, summer internships paying market was the first fat to get cut. I am glad I got my cash when the economy had a wood. The mating dance has been performed, and I am the benefactor.

Even if the bottom drops out on me, I have my Pharm.D./Ph.D. fiance to bail me out.

Don't count on it. The PhD track, like law, is only high paying if you go to the right schools and impress the right people. Mind you, letting go of the dream of becoming a professor and instead selling out to industry improves those odds.

My story is inverted...my girlfriend went to law school and then specialized in taxation at a tier 1 school. She got a six figure job right away, but then got cut when the economy went to crap and hasn't been able to find anything since. I'm in a good-name PhD program. I don't really care that much about money, though, so really I just consider it as the flexibility to do whatever I please when I leave.


I didn't realize that Texas was that big on gay marriage, though.

UT Pharmacy is #2 in the nation.

Woosh

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: her209
Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

At this rate, we should just move everyone to India.

BINGO

That has been the solution I have been saying is the answer for years now.

 

[crisscross]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: her209
Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

At this rate, we should just move everyone to India.

BINGO

That has been the solution I have been saying is the answer for years now.

Com over guys.. you will just have to squeeze in a bit though

 

[EagleKeeper]

Originally posted by: crisscross

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: her209
Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

At this rate, we should just move everyone to India.

BINGO

That has been the solution I have been saying is the answer for years now.

Com over guys.. you will just have to squeeze in a bit though

You have all that extra space up north. Is that shareable

 

[crisscross]

Originally posted by: Common Courtesy

Originally posted by: crisscross

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Phokus

Originally posted by: her209
Bahaha... next up, bankers, upper management.

At this rate, we should just move everyone to India.

BINGO

That has been the solution I have been saying is the answer for years now.

Com over guys.. you will just have to squeeze in a bit though

You have all that extra space up north. Is that shareable

Hey, if you want to get shot at by Pakistani terrorists be my guest

 

[stateofbeasley]

Another item from the NY Times:

Another View: Lock the Law School Doors

Dan Slater, a former litigator, argues that there are too many places at too many law schools, especially with the current hiring slump at law firms.
...


This fall, as thousands of second-year law students wait in vain for callback interviews and ponder instructions to cast a wider net, they might wonder why, when they signed up for all of this, no one mentioned times were changing. They might even look at Miami?s attempt, however futile, to stanch enrollment and call it an honorable thing.

The American Bar Association, which continues to approve law schools with impunity and with no end in sight, bears complicity in creating this mess. Yet a spokeswoman, citing antitrust concerns, says the A.B.A. takes no position on the optimal number of lawyers or law schools. So then how about the schools? Can they save future generations of students from themselves?


...

Take, for instance, the employment statistics posted on the Web sites of three low-ranked law schools in New York City, the country?s biggest market for legal employment. All three advertise that 45 to 60 percent of their 2008 graduates who reported salary information are making a median salary of $150,000 to $160,000.

Now, of course there must be some way of slicing and dicing the numbers to yield that magic result. But what happens, in practice, is that prospective degree-purchasers enroll in these $43,000-a-year programs believing their chances of landing that Big Law job are about one in two. Tempting odds.

The truth is out and everyone in the industry know it -- there are too many law schools, too many graduates, and fewer and fewer entry level jobs.

For most people, law school is the path to debt ridden wage slavery.

 

[Engineer]

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley

The truth is out and everyone in the industry know it -- there are too many law schools, too many graduates, and fewer and fewer entry level jobs.

For most people, law school is the path to debt ridden wage slavery.

The way it's going, many other career choices are going down the same path. Welcome to low wage global labor competition.....

Too many people out there willing to take your job for pennies on the dollar. Get used to it...and the lower standard of living it will give you (while giving them a higher one).

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: stateofbeasley
Another item from the NY Times:

Another View: Lock the Law School Doors

Dan Slater, a former litigator, argues that there are too many places at too many law schools, especially with the current hiring slump at law firms.
...


This fall, as thousands of second-year law students wait in vain for callback interviews and ponder instructions to cast a wider net, they might wonder why, when they signed up for all of this, no one mentioned times were changing. They might even look at Miami?s attempt, however futile, to stanch enrollment and call it an honorable thing.

The American Bar Association, which continues to approve law schools with impunity and with no end in sight, bears complicity in creating this mess. Yet a spokeswoman, citing antitrust concerns, says the A.B.A. takes no position on the optimal number of lawyers or law schools. So then how about the schools? Can they save future generations of students from themselves?


...

Take, for instance, the employment statistics posted on the Web sites of three low-ranked law schools in New York City, the country?s biggest market for legal employment. All three advertise that 45 to 60 percent of their 2008 graduates who reported salary information are making a median salary of $150,000 to $160,000.

Now, of course there must be some way of slicing and dicing the numbers to yield that magic result. But what happens, in practice, is that prospective degree-purchasers enroll in these $43,000-a-year programs believing their chances of landing that Big Law job are about one in two. Tempting odds.

The truth is out and everyone in the industry know it -- there are too many law schools, too many graduates, and fewer and fewer entry level jobs.

For most people, law school is the path to debt ridden wage slavery.

Only if AMA approved med schools like the ABA did. Medical costs would drop and we'd all have access to cheap healthcare.

 

[Slew Foot]

Originally posted by: JS80


Only if AMA approved med schools like the ABA did. Medical costs would drop and we'd all have access to cheap healthcare.

Physician salaries are 5% of the total healthcare outlay of the country. Youd get complete dumbass doctors and save 3% on your premiums. Woo.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: Slew Foot

Originally posted by: JS80


Only if AMA approved med schools like the ABA did. Medical costs would drop and we'd all have access to cheap healthcare.

Physician salaries are 5% of the total healthcare outlay of the country. Youd get complete dumbass doctors and save 3% on your premiums. Woo.

Is that accurate? And do you know what the complete breakdown numbers are? I've often wondered how much of each health care dollar is used up in litigation, malpractice insurance and settlements.