ATOT's H20 too 2 to two thread

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Born2bwire

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OK...so it's a game now :)

He spoke his request to the server.

:hmm:

Ah! I got it!

But if he spoke it out loud (let's ignore your egregious assumption that since it's written down then it must be spoken) he would have said, "Hydrogen monoxide, too."

But he received "hydrogen dioxide" instead.
 

busydude

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But if he spoke it out loud (let's ignore your egregious assumption that since it's written down then it must be spoken) he would have said, "Hydrogen monoxide, too."

But he received "hydrogen dioxide" instead.

He could have also said "I'll have the same, Thanks."

Now, I would like to punch you in the face for being so dense.
 

Howard

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:hmm:

Ah! I got it!

But if he spoke it out loud (let's ignore your egregious assumption that since it's written down then it must be spoken) he would have said, "Hydrogen monoxide, too."

But he received "hydrogen dioxide" instead.
What we should assume is that the second patron asked for, each character individually enunciated, "H2O", followed by "too", which would have been indistinguishable from an "2" appending the water molecule formula. The other assumption, then, is that the waiter understood his request to be for H2O2 rather than for H2O.
 

Born2bwire

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What we should assume is that the second patron asked for, each character individually enunciated, "H2O", followed by "too", which would have been indistinguishable from an "2" appending the water molecule formula. The other assumption, then, is that the waiter understood his request to be for H2O2 rather than for H2O.

But the first guy is a chemist. So he would have spoken out the proper long form of the formula when ordering. His friend, not being a chemist it seems from the assumptions of the joke, would have followed his lead and repeated the same long form.

I also find it suspicious that the waiter, who obviously must be poorly educated and unskilled to hold such a low position, would understand any of the conversation let alone have access to a quantity of hydrogen peroxide that is needed in this joke.
 

Howard

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But the first guy is a chemist. So he would have spoken out the proper long form of the formula when ordering. His friend, not being a chemist it seems from the assumptions of the joke, would have followed his lead and repeated the same long form.

I also find it suspicious that the waiter, who obviously must be poorly educated and unskilled to hold such a low position, would understand any of the conversation let alone have access to a quantity of hydrogen peroxide that is needed in this joke.
The first person being a chemist does not mean that he needs to overcomplicate things, especially as he is in a social situation where such behaviour would supposedly be unseemly. Then again, "water" would be too plain and incongruous with his revelatory statement, and so H2O would have been a good compromise.

Your assumption that the water is poorly educated and unskilled is without factual basis. As for having H2O2 on hand, it would not have been impossible to acquire, especially if the establishment has competent staff and an earnest desire to please. One does wonder why the establishment knowingly served a lethal drink...
 
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Born2bwire

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The first person being a chemist does not mean that he needs to overcomplicate things, especially as he is in a social situation where such behaviour would supposedly be unseemly. Then again, "water" would be too plain and incongruous with his revelatory statement, and so H2O would have been a good compromise.

Your assumption that the water is poorly educated and unskilled is without factual basis. As for having H2O2 on hand, it would not have been impossible to acquire, especially if the establishment has competent staff and an earnest desire to please. One does wonder why the establishment knowingly served a lethal drink...

You can't have it both ways. The waiter can't be smart enough to interpret chemical equations but be stupid enough to serve an obviously lethal concoction. And besides, if he was smart, then he wouldn't be a waiter. No educated person would take a job whose financial stability is dependent upon the continued generosity of his patrons. Once people learn that they don't need to tip then the bottom falls out of waiting.

EDIT: As to your first point. I find it rather suspicious that the chemist would be so sensitive as to avoid complications by simplifying his request in a social situation but then to allow his comrade to proceed with, what everyone seems to claim, is an obvious fatal order.

The only real answer that I can see here is that this is not a joke at all but a highly organized homicide. Why else would there be such a wealth of selective contradictions in behavior?
 
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zinfamous

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:hmm:

Ah! I got it!

But if he spoke it out loud (let's ignore your egregious assumption that since it's written down then it must be spoken) he would have said, "Hydrogen monoxide, too."

But he received "hydrogen dioxide" instead.

why woudl he have said hydrogen monoxide? the formula is hydrogen dioxide.

Jesus Hume Christ, this is why you fucks can't get womenz. Even an uber nerdy joke has to be destroyed by that black hole at your heart where humor goes to die, and die, and die...slowly, and infinitely

:D
 

Lean L

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You can't have it both ways. The waiter can't be smart enough to interpret chemical equations but be stupid enough to serve an obviously lethal concoction. And besides, if he was smart, then he wouldn't be a waiter. No educated person would take a job whose financial stability is dependent upon the continued generosity of his patrons. Once people learn that they don't need to tip then the bottom falls out of waiting.

It's a fucking joke. Accept that you failed at interpreting it and move on.
 

zinfamous

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this is becoming another plane vs treadmill issue. there are those hardheaded fucks that for whatever reason, simply will not get it.

I think it's a chemical imbalance for which there are not yet any pills.
 

Born2bwire

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why woudl he have said hydrogen monoxide? the formula is hydrogen dioxide.

Jesus Hume Christ, this is why you fucks can't get womenz. Even an uber nerdy joke has to be destroyed by that black hole at your heart where humor goes to die, and die, and die...slowly, and infinitely

:D

Actually I mispoke. Obviously requesting water one would say "hydrogen monoxide." There are two hydrogen and one oxygen but it is my recollection that since the natural rules to fill the valence band shell dictates two hydrogen atoms for one oxygen that you omit the "di-" suffix from the hydrogen since it is superfluous.

However, when requesting hydrogen peroxide I should have stated that the formula would be "dihydrogen dioxide" since having two hydrogen atoms to two oxygen atoms would be an exception to this rule. But perhaps we should request the aid of a chemist or one well educated in chemistry to help clarify this. I must confess that it has been some years since I last dabbled with the tubes and burners so to speak.

But you perfectly illustrate my point. Had the chemist spoken his request, he would have askd for "hydrogen monoxide" and his friend would have repeated it in the same manner thus preventing any confusion since hydrogen peroxide has an obviously different formulation.
 

zinfamous

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Actually I mispoke. Obviously requesting water one would say "hydrogen monoxide." There are two hydrogen and one oxygen but it is my recollection that since the natural rules to fill the valence band shell dictates two hydrogen atoms for one oxygen that you omit the "di-" suffix from the hydrogen since it is superfluous.

However, when requesting hydrogen peroxide I should have stated that the formula would be "dihydrogen dioxide" since having two hydrogen atoms to two oxygen atoms would be an exception to this rule. But perhaps we should request the aid of a chemist or one well educated in chemistry to help clarify this. I must confess that it has been some years since I last dabbled with the tubes and burners so to speak.

But you perfectly illustrate my point. Had the chemist spoken his request, he would have askd for "hydrogen monoxide" and his friend would have repeated it in the same manner thus preventing any confusion since hydrogen peroxide has an obviously different formulation.

oh yeah, whoops, I fucked that up. It's dihydrogen monoxide.

:D:D


also, you have no humor. must be sad.
 

FallenHero

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this is becoming another plane vs treadmill issue. there are those hardheaded fucks that for whatever reason, simply will not get it.

I think it's a chemical imbalance for which there are not yet any pills.

perhaps some H2O too will fix it for them.
 

Turin39789

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I learned what h2o2 was in middle school and only learned it was deadly to drink in this thread.




true story bro.
 

CVSiN

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I've shown this little cartoon to no less than 6 coworkers and all said the same thing.. Not funny.. or they didn't understand why ordering a water TOO (also) would kill the guy..

These are all college educated IT Professionals from at least 4 different countries of origin..
none got it till I explained it to them..

The joke is a total epic fail. for reasons myself and others have written above.
 

Howard

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You can't have it both ways. The waiter can't be smart enough to interpret chemical equations but be stupid enough to serve an obviously lethal concoction. And besides, if he was smart, then he wouldn't be a waiter. No educated person would take a job whose financial stability is dependent upon the continued generosity of his patrons. Once people learn that they don't need to tip then the bottom falls out of waiting.

EDIT: As to your first point. I find it rather suspicious that the chemist would be so sensitive as to avoid complications by simplifying his request in a social situation but then to allow his comrade to proceed with, what everyone seems to claim, is an obvious fatal order.

The only real answer that I can see here is that this is not a joke at all but a highly organized homicide. Why else would there be such a wealth of selective contradictions in behavior?
Disagree with several points:

- it doesn't require much intelligence to interpret chemical formulas
- waiting can be a very lucrative means of financial support; I don't see the relationship to intelligence
- you make a grave error by assuming that people don't already know they can get away with not tipping; reasonably, we can assume that people forgo this option any time they dine out

Agree with:

- the chemist's complacency does seem to indicate either strong malice towards the other patron, and/or murderous intent
- the waiter and the chemist probably collaborated in an strangely elaborate (yet ultimately pointless) pre-meditated murder
 

Jeeebus

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this is becoming another plane vs treadmill issue. there are those hardheaded fucks that for whatever reason, simply will not get it.

I think it's a chemical imbalance for which there are not yet any pills.

I don't get it... are you suggesting that a plane can't take off if sitting in H2O2?
 

purbeast0

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I've shown this little cartoon to no less than 6 coworkers and all said the same thing.. Not funny.. or they didn't understand why ordering a water TOO (also) would kill the guy..

These are all college educated IT Professionals from at least 4 different countries of origin..
none got it till I explained it to them..

The joke is a total epic fail. for reasons myself and others have written above.

you work with some stupid/boring people then.

and i know plenty of stupid peole who graduated from college 2.
 

alkemyst

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I've shown this little cartoon to no less than 6 coworkers and all said the same thing.. Not funny.. or they didn't understand why ordering a water TOO (also) would kill the guy..

These are all college educated IT Professionals from at least 4 different countries of origin..
none got it till I explained it to them..

The joke is a total epic fail. for reasons myself and others have written above.

I'd expect those in a call center to be clueless.

WTF does IT professional and chemistry have to do with each other?
 

CVSiN

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I'd expect those in a call center to be clueless.

WTF does IT professional and chemistry have to do with each other?

WTF does H202 have to do with a restaurant?
I'm merely pointing out we are very educated people with degrees and are all 30-50 years old and we don't see the humor or fail to understand the lame delivery.

Nice assumption douchenozzle..
Sorry to disappoint haven't worked in a call center since 1997.
Microsoft Certified Systems Admin w/Cisco certs here with 12 years exp working in Oil and Gas environment. ( in Networking/Server department now)
 

CVSiN

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Disagree with several points:

- it doesn't require much intelligence to interpret chemical formulas
- waiting can be a very lucrative means of financial support; I don't see the relationship to intelligence
- you make a grave error by assuming that people don't already know they can get away with not tipping; reasonably, we can assume that people forgo this option any time they dine out

Agree with:

- the chemist's complacency does seem to indicate either strong malice towards the other patron, and/or murderous intent
- the waiter and the chemist probably collaborated in an strangely elaborate (yet ultimately pointless) pre-meditated murder

Sounds like Howard hasn't been dining out much in the past 20 years..
the average intelligence of even a 4-5 star restaurant waiter/waitress seems to be sub 5th grade level.. yes there may be an occasional bright star but most of the time dumb as fucking rocks.

There is a reason they do what they do and its usually poor education.
BTW have you even spoken to any young people within the last decade?
Most couldn't tell you what a fucking Wallaby is or even where they come from.. let alone the chemical formula for water let alone anything else..
America's education system at its finest.
 
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