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Charmonium

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I'm sure things like this happen all of the time and probably isn't going to change any time soon, But I really wish people would at least get the pets "fixed" before throwing them out into the cold.
I have a decent stash of TP these days lol.
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Even if we ever got a Taco Bell here I would be fine.
Ah yes. And those look like the 12 packs. Here, they can get away with claiming that each pack is really equivalent to 36 rolls. Not throwing any shade but, bullshit. Is that "shade?" Hehe
 

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I have a decent stash of TP these days lol.

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Even if we ever got a Taco Bell here I would be fine.

Taco Bell sucks, but that is a lot of TP. I use Scott 1000. I hate changing the roll so frequently. I'm surprised you don't at least have your supplies on racks. You live like an animal.
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Red Squirrel

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Lol I actually do want to organize everything down there. I need to finish my garage so I can actually build the racks. That's going to probably be my summer project, along with clearing land on my property. Once I have a proper workshop to work in I have tons of other projects I want to do as well. Probably want to build a sawmill too to bring to the property. Price of lumber is probably not going back to normal at this point.

And yeah when I see the jumbo rolls I always get those. I don't always see them though. Depends where I'm shopping. Walmart tends to have more selection and larger quantity packs than the grocery store but I'm rarely at that end of town.
 

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Lol I actually do want to organize everything down there. I need to finish my garage so I can actually build the racks. That's going to probably be my summer project, along with clearing land on my property. Once I have a proper workshop to work in I have tons of other projects I want to do as well. Probably want to build a sawmill too to bring to the property. Price of lumber is probably not going back to normal at this point.

And yeah when I see the jumbo rolls I always get those. I don't always see them though. Depends where I'm shopping. Walmart tends to have more selection and larger quantity packs than the grocery store but I'm rarely at that end of town.

I would just purchase wire racks. They're affordable, sturdy and easy to assemble.
 

Red Squirrel

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Might do that too but I kind of want to build something custom to fit the exact space. This is a crawlspace so anything I buy would have to be customized to some extent so it fits anyway.
 

Red Squirrel

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May start on the garage throughout winter too, it's just so cold to work in there until I can get to a point that it's insulated. Still have a wall to build on one side to support the ceiling joists, then the actual ceiling joists. I already have all the lumber for that. That was really suppose to be my last year project but I procrastinated too much.
 

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Might do that too but I kind of want to build something custom to fit the exact space. This is a crawlspace so anything I buy would have to be customized to some extent so it fits anyway.

Just measure for dimensions and then find a rack that fits those dimensions. I've got three wire racks in my apartment. I wish I had more storage space. I put my paper products in my cabinets.
 

Charmonium

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I would just purchase wire racks. They're affordable, sturdy and easy to assemble.
I geeked out on wire racks when I moved here and yes they can quite strong and definitely easy assemble.

But if you go that route, you want to make sure y have plastic insets if you're going to put anything other than boxes on them.

They';re also a pain to reorganize. Sure, you can slide any of the shelves up or down but then you tend to bump into the other shelves.

I think the best solution if you want maximum ability to reconfigure would be custom wood box cases with dowels for the shelves. It will mean a lot of fine drilling so you don'
t complete perforate the wood.

I feel like shit. This has to at least be my second case of either flu the Cron or something similar. going back to bed
 

Charmonium

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BTW, if you're going try the doweled box approach, you have to choose betwee the following options. Either use solid wood and match the thickness to the maximum length and weight you think you'll need. Or use particle board and make the shelves very short. P-board will tend to flex at much lower weights and lengths than wood - even if you double up. Since the most common thickness is probably a nomina half inch. But even if you double up, that's not going to cut it. And at that point you'll be much better going with one inch wood planks. If you go with solid pine, that's probably the optimal combination of warp resistance and price.

I don't know what your planned uses will be and who will see the shelves, but I really hate sagging shelves. It just looks cheesy. For my office, I wanted nice solid shelves in front of the desk such that the desk could go flush against the wall and not sacrifice any space for bottom shelves that would only gather dust.

The studs in this house are 12" on center. So for the brackets that click into the wall posts, I used a combo of posts - one at 24" and one at 12" and only a half inch thick. But then the heaviest thing on the shelves is my NHT center speaker, and that happens to be centered on the post with a 24" gap to the left and 12" gap to the right.

Also consider if you will put anything electronic on the shelves. In that case, I would go with a false wall behind the shelves and use either a doweled box or brackets and posts. Actually I'm now thinking that the latter might be the best choice since all you need to change the arrangement is different sized bracket for deeper or more shallow shelves.

The single best feature of wire shelves is that the posts can be fitted with industrial strength caster. That was a 'must have' for the ones in the basement.
 
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Red Squirrel

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BTW, if you're going try the doweled box approach, you have to choose betwee the following options. Either use solid wood and match the thickness to the maximum length and weight you think you'll need. Or use particle board and make the shelves very short. P-board will tend to flex at much lower weights and lengths than wood - even if you double up. Since the most common thickness is probably a nomina half inch. But even if you double up, that's not going to cut it. And at that point you'll be much better going with one inch wood planks. If you go with solid pine, that's probably the optimal combination of warp resistance and price.

I don't know what your planned uses will be and who will see the shelves, but I really hate sagging shelves. It just looks cheesy. For my office, I wanted nice solid shelves in front of the desk such that the desk could go flush against the wall and not sacrifice any space for bottom shelves that would only gather dust.

The studs in this house are 12" on center. So for the brackets that click into the wall posts, I used a combo of posts - one at 24" and one at 12" and only a half inch thick. But then the heaviest thing on the shelves is my NHT center speaker, and that happens to be centered on the post with a 24" gap to the left and 12" gap to the right.

Also consider if you will put anything electronic on the shelves. In that case, I would go with a false wall behind the shelves and use either a doweled box or brackets and posts. Actually I'm now thinking that the latter might be the best choice since all you need to change the arrangement is different sized bracket for deeper or more shallow shelves.

The single best feature of wire shelves is that the posts can be fitted with industrial strength caster. That was a 'must have' for the ones in the basement.


Oh yeah if I go custom it will be overbuilt, I hate anything that is flimsy. Depending on if I can find wire shelves locally for cheap I might go that route too but not finding much on Home Depot at least not for cheap. Looking at like $200 per shelving unit. Probably end up going custom as no matter what I'd end up having to cut the posts and customize them a lot to fit in the crawlspace. Though it also means one unit would turn into maybe 3.

I may also have some on casters, specifically ones for Christmas stuff, since I have to take that out every year so it will make it easier.
 
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MrSquished

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I just finished the first ep of Station Eleven. Not sure what to think. Has anyone else given this show a chance?
Been watching it with the gf. We both like it so far. About 6 episodes in and we have a date to watch a couple more tomorrow night. It's not an action packed show, it's slow and character driven show, but fucked up shit does happen. Will be watching until the end