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zzuupp

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I keep looking at properties, this could be dangerous. 40 acres river front for 39k.

It's not an unorganized township though. :/ Probably need a permit to build anything bigger than 100sqft. Too much red tape is involved at that point. Inspections and crap.

we've neffed about random property before. Is it a flood plain? Does the soil perc?
Sounds like neither and you'll have to pay the power company to bring a line in.

Cheap for a reason. It'll be fine if you want a 39K campground plus yearly taxes

yadda yadda yadda
 

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we've neffed about random property before. Is it a flood plain? Does the soil perc?
Sounds like neither and you'll have to pay the power company to bring a line in.

Cheap for a reason. It'll be fine if you want a 39K campground plus yearly taxes

yadda yadda yadda

No idea, those are things I'd want to consider before I buy it. I would not build anything until I know the spot I choose is good. Probably would want to learn to do basic surveying too or hire someone, to basically map out the high spots and low spots.

I would never want to bring commercial AC over to such property, the whole point of off grid living is to reduce bills. I'd generate my own power. Solar, wind, and backup propane generator. Cheaper in the long run. Would use wood for heat, and backup electric. I'd oversize the hell out of the power system. Excess power would go into heating water to store as thermal energy.

One major thing though is I do want a property that has road access, this one does. There are some properties that are 100+ acres and are in the 10-15k range but they have no road access. The issue with those is you need a skidoo or ATV to get to it, so where do you even park your car? Or when you're not at the property where do yo park the ATV/Skidoo? So that would be an issue.

At first I would not be living there, it would just be a camping spot. So it would give me lot of time to perfect the infrastructure and make sure that it works properly even in winter. Like for solar, freezing rain is clearly a huge issue as I'm seeing with my shed, so that is something I would have more room to address in a bigger property. Ground mount system is a bit easier to maintain, and I could use a wood boiler to melt the snow off. Lot of little tricks like that I'd have to learn and figure out over the years before I can actually live there year round. I'd only be able to live there year round if I retire anyway as I still need to go to work, so I'd have to keep my house. It would mostly be a year round camp ground. At first, probably only summer. Would take a few years to build out the proper infrastructure.

But yeah, I'm better off paying off my mortgage first. Buying the property is only the first major expense, I would have to put like 30k into actually building out the infrastructure and stuff too. Would be a long term project. I'd start with an outhouse, small cabin and small solar setup and then build it out from there. The outhouse is kinda important, need somewhere to go while I'm building the cabin. :p
 
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zzuupp

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I hadn't even thought about road access. Even in Appalachia road access is a must.

Paved road access is much, much better.


Also, tonight guest stars on Hill Street Blues are Jane Kaczmarek and Linda Hamilton.
This could've been one wicked episode of Malcolm in the Middle or a much weirder Terminator sequel.
 

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