++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

[MotF Bane]

http://flyinmiata.com/V8/green99/index.php?UID=37

LS376/480. That's stunning.

 

[MotF Bane]

Actually, 415 HP, 430 ft-lbs (at the wheels). The rated figures (which are crank values) are 480 and 474. The drivetrain loss on the torque is erroneous; either the dyno just fucked up, or the motor is giving a lot more torque than its rated for.

Either way, over 400. I think 430 ft-lbs is a little excessive, given the normal tire sizes and the vehicle weight, but there's not much to do about that.

 

[MotF Bane]

And that puts you into the ballpark of 5 lbs/HP or 5 lbs/ft-lb. Either of those is shockingly low weight/power ratio.

 

[Locut0s]

Work nef

 

[MotF Bane]

My guess would be that the motor is producing more torque than rated for, which is a nice bonus. I'd rather see the bonus for the ponies, as 400 ft-lbs is more than sufficient to melt most tires at will, but oh well.

 

[MotF Bane]

Hi there, Locut0s.

 

[RPD]

Here's the whole convo:

Am I missing something?? (Edited out model, brand and names)

Read my reply again

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:51 AM, "RPD" wrote:

No, the (one) has 2 separate courses (maintenance/operation and
service/repair) and then there is one course for the (other)
(maintenance/operation).

-----Original Message-----
From: Boss guy
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 9:50 AM
To: RPD

Does this cover both oiled and mag?

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:47 AM, RPD wrote:

I haven't sent him the catalog yet, but yes Greg did go in the past.
He's looking at $4,800 course fee for the 2 week centrifugal theory &
repair course.

-----Original Message-----
From: Boss guy

Exactly what training at what McQuay advertised cost is he looking at?
The full centrifugal training was two weeks last I saw at a very
steep price. Did he send Greg to it in the past?

Sent from my iPad

On Jan 4, 2012, at 9:39 AM, "RPD" wrote:

(Customer) was pretty sure that it was split in the past... Maybe it
was just the air fare or just the hotel..?

-----Original Message-----
From: Boss Guy
Sent: Wednesday, January 04, 2012 1:03 AM
To: RPD

We never pay
This should be looked at as a money maker for their service dept

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 29, 2011, at 9:25 AM, "RPD" wrote:

Boss guy-


(Customer) has expressed interest in sending one of his guys out to
centrifugal chiller repair course along with some financial help.
What have we done to share the costs on this, or what would we do
going forward with the new company?

 

[MotF Bane]

Three hours left.

 

[MotF Bane]

"He's looking at $4,800 course fee for the 2 week centrifugal theory &
repair course." - Okay, there's a two week course, a single integrated course, where singular is defined by 'course', not courses.

"Does this cover both oiled and mag?" - 'This' is singular, referencing that single integrated course above.

"No, the (one) has 2 separate courses (maintenance/operation and
service/repair) and then there is one course for the (other)
(maintenance/operation)." - So there are TWO courses, not one as previously implied. Course 1 is for the maintenance, operation, service, and repair of oiled devices. Course 2 is for the maintenance, operation, service, and repair of mag devices.

"Read my reply again" - He doesn't understand your answer, and is throwing it back onto you, implying you don't understand his question.

In fairness to him, I found your last message to him to be rather difficult to understand. In fairness to you, it seems that he picked a bit of an arrogant dickish way to ask for clarification.

 

[MotF Bane]

Caveat: this is how I am reading this, my interpretations may not be correct.

 

[sdifox]

ni

 

[RPD]

I think you actually helped me see what he read. But I mean fuck, thats just being dense. It's more complicated then above because there are actually 3 course types.

One for oiled. Two for one type of magnetic bearing and another single one for a different magnetic bearing. Confusing eh?

 

[MotF Bane]

Saw a GM T56 on eBay for almost $3000.

 

[MotF Bane]

I think you actually helped me see what he read. But I mean fuck, thats just being dense. It's more complicated then above because there are actually 3 course types.

One for oiled. Two for one type of magnetic bearing and another single one for a different magnetic bearing. Confusing eh?

Yeah, he should've either spent a couple minutes thinking it over until he got it, or just admitted he didn't understand your wording and asked for clarification.

And yes, you guys have too many different courses.

 

[RPD]

Thats just for w/c chillers. There's about 7 other classes covering other major product lines... AND thats just for one of the manufacturers we represent.

 

[MotF Bane]

Strangely, not really hungry for second lunch.

 

[busydude]

 

[MotF Bane]

Thats just for w/c chillers. There's about 7 other classes covering other major product lines... AND thats just for one of the manufacturers we represent.

*brain explodes*

 

[MotF Bane]

There are many classes of T56! Different gear ratios, and different torque ratings! D:

 

[busydude]

Lol.. this is what I did. I told him the day before I was about to fly. :awe:

 

[MotF Bane]

Different input and output splines! OH NOES.

 

[MotF Bane]

Haha, phdcomics is a riot.

 

[sdifox]

narf

 

[MotF Bane]

Or I am misinterpreting this chart, and the T56 can always take 560 ft-lbs, but the chart just lists the rated torque output of each application it has been put in. The only variances are ratios and splines.

 

[MotF Bane]

The LS3 Corvettes come equipped with the T6060 instead of T56. Not sure if the difference is critical.