++ ATOT official NEF thread part IV ++

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IronWing

No Lifer
Jul 20, 2001
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I didn't know there were the different kinds of cornbread. I guess we all like what we grew up with. I looked it up and it's a north/south thing.
I grew up in the north and I like both. My wife's family is from the south. Sweetened cornbread sends various in-laws into epic rants. I have a buddy from the south. The last time his father visited they went out to a restaurant that served sweetened cornbread. His father threw such a hissy fit, my buddy thought they would thrown out of the restaurant. "This isn't cornbread, this is cake! If I wanted cake I would have ordered cake…" :D

My preference in either kind is the gritty texture of coarsely ground cornmeal and being made with bacon fat.
 

bigboxes

Lifer
Apr 6, 2002
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That makes sense. I know in Texas it was unsweetened only, but here in Alabama we have a fair mix. I like sweetened cornbread in muffin form with butter, but if I'm eating it with beans and pork or something like that I prefer unsweetened.

Honestly any kind of cornbread is pretty great.

I have lived in Texas for a long time, but grew up in the Midwest. I remember tasting unsweetened cornbread as an adult and wondered why it tasted so bland. My wife insists on putting sugar in her rice and I think that's weird.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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Condensation occurs when ambient surfaces breach the ambient dewpoint. A 16C dewpoint at that far north this time of the year would be quite juicy. Mold abound! :p

Doesn't the actual humidity of the room also matter though? It's bone dry in the house in winter. Right now my humidity meter says "lo" which is when it's outside of range (15% I think).

The analog one in the server room is reading 32ish so not sure which one I'm suppose to believe. lol. In summer it's usually around 50-60. Actually I have some sensors that use i2c in a box, I need to install those in a few spots would be cool to monitor/track the humidity more.
 

Red Squirrel

No Lifer
May 24, 2003
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For all I know he is growing pot :awe:

We had a big ass humidifier installed in our office. 3 phase 208v. The guy who installed it joked saying we could probably grow mushrooms under our desk when that thing is running. lol . It's so loud though so we tend to leave it off. It was doing a wash cycle like every hour and sounds like a dish washer.
 

Rubycon

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Aug 10, 2005
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Doesn't the actual humidity of the room also matter though? It's bone dry in the house in winter. Right now my humidity meter says "lo" which is when it's outside of range (15% I think).

The analog one in the server room is reading 32ish so not sure which one I'm suppose to believe. lol. In summer it's usually around 50-60. Actually I have some sensors that use i2c in a box, I need to install those in a few spots would be cool to monitor/track the humidity more.

Yes absolutely. There's a relationship between indoor humidity and outside air temperature. Setting indoor humidity to a static value is bad because condensation occurs when outdoor air temperature drops too low and indoor humidity is maintained at too high of a value. Of course if the building has no windows and superinsulation that maintains a sufficient delta then there's no problem. ;)

We had a big ass humidifier installed in our office. 3 phase 208v. The guy who installed it joked saying we could probably grow mushrooms under our desk when that thing is running. lol . It's so loud though so we tend to leave it off. It was doing a wash cycle like every hour and sounds like a dish washer.

The larger ones simply have a large stainless steel pan with a float that keeps it filled to the desired level. When a call for humidification is initiated, large quartz lamps mounted just a few cm above the water level are powered up and the water evaporates quickly. These are installed inside the package units (Liebert, for example) and can definitely increase the RH quickly. Sometimes they overshoot and then a dedicated dehumidification cycle commences using a refrigeration loop!
 

Red Squirrel

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The larger ones simply have a large stainless steel pan with a float that keeps it filled to the desired level. When a call for humidification is initiated, large quartz lamps mounted just a few cm above the water level are powered up and the water evaporates quickly. These are installed inside the package units (Liebert, for example) and can definitely increase the RH quickly. Sometimes they overshoot and then a dedicated dehumidification cycle commences using a refrigeration loop!

Yeah ours is actually designed to hook to an existing HVAC but they were lazy/cheap so they installed it stand alone, which is also an option for that unit but I imagine it's designed for rooms where noise matters less, like server rooms. Ours seems to work in that it has a tank with an element or other heat source, and to prevent build up of crud it washes itself and dues a flush basically.

There's actually one in our DMS100 room but as far as I can tell it's been turned off for years. Either it broke and they never fixed it, or maybe they figured it's not necessary. The racks have places to plug in a wrist strap so I imagine they just use that religiously. Then again, it's a DMS. That switch got hit with lightening and still kept routing calls, while part of it was on fire. They don't build stuff like they used to. :p GPS antennas make great lightning rods. Also recently happened to another one of our offices.
 

sdifox

No Lifer
Sep 30, 2005
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Yes absolutely. There's a relationship between indoor humidity and outside air temperature. Setting indoor humidity to a static value is bad because condensation occurs when outdoor air temperature drops too low and indoor humidity is maintained at too high of a value. Of course if the building has no windows and superinsulation that maintains a sufficient delta then there's no problem. ;)



The larger ones simply have a large stainless steel pan with a float that keeps it filled to the desired level. When a call for humidification is initiated, large quartz lamps mounted just a few cm above the water level are powered up and the water evaporates quickly. These are installed inside the package units (Liebert, for example) and can definitely increase the RH quickly. Sometimes they overshoot and then a dedicated dehumidification cycle commences using a refrigeration loop!


Lulz flash boil.

Would have thought pierzo would have been more efficient.
 

MongGrel

Lifer
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Fast Cornbread ni

http://www.jiffymix.com/store/index.php/jiffy-mixes/tour-case.html

I usually just have a few boxes around of the original, and use the cast iron skillet to bake it.

jiffy_corn_muffin.jpg