ATOT Lawyers... filing in small claims court. Will the following be permissible .....

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boomhower

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Chalk it up to a lesson learned and move on. If she doesn't have the money all you are going to do spend even more time and aggravation on this crappy situation. Just let it go and move on with your life.
 
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I was thinking of doing exactly that, but turns out I am not the only person she stiffed. Apparently she borrowed dresses from people and ruined / hasnt returned them.

Needless to say, she is going to continue to do this and it will be a long time before karma gets to her. It might be faster to but a black spot on her record.
 
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I'd bet you'd smuggle drugs for Denise Millani too...

But, she's probably a broke ass and a judgement isn't going to do shit if you can't collect.

Also, she'll just say you're mad because she broke up with you and now you are trying to get paid for what you spent on her while dating. How will you refute that?

You got played, just be more careful in the future.
 
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I considered her trying to say that I was dating her. But I wasnt (plenty of people who will support me on that one). I had just come out of a relationship myself. I've never slept with her and more over, she was / is married / engaged to a guy who is stuck in india. (long story)

Yes, i know her broke ass wont let me collect but a lien on her ass would allow slow collection if any
 

waggy

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You will never get air fair. you got to go to PR. you use it.

The hotel room? lol you have proof she said she would pay half? if not forget it.

you are a putz. grow a fucking backbone and think and act for yourself from now on. chalk it up as a life lesson.

lol
 

Genx87

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You wont get the airfare. You can make a claim she owes half the hotel bill + any food you split.
 
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I considered her trying to say that I was dating her. But I wasnt (plenty of people who will support me on that one). I had just come out of a relationship myself. I've never slept with her and more over, she was / is married / engaged to a guy who is stuck in india. (long story)

Yes, i know her broke ass wont let me collect but a lien on her ass would allow slow collection if any

You aren't going to be able to get a lien on her, you aren't going to get any black mark on her record, you aren't going to get a judge to believe you were financing her trip. Unless you have something written, it's your word vs hers and neither one mean anything. You'll only look like someone who was played like a chump trying to get in her pants. It happens every day.

She's a wise and beautiful woman, nothing you can do now but let time pass and get over it. I know you want revenge, but this isn't a battle worth trying to win. You'll need a lawyer just to file writs of execution, etc. You'll be out more money than you could ever hope to recover.
 

Genx87

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You aren't going to be able to get a lien on her, you aren't going to get any black mark on her record, you aren't going to get a judge to believe you were financing her trip. Unless you have something written, it's your word vs hers and neither one mean anything. You'll only look like someone who was played like a chump trying to get in her pants. It happens every day.

She's a wise and beautiful woman, nothing you can do now but let time pass and get over it. I know you want revenge, but this isn't a battle worth trying to win. You'll need a lawyer just to file writs of execution, etc. You'll be out more money than you could ever hope to recover.

If he presents his case without the emotion. I think he has as much a chance as any getting her portion of the hotel + food costs. Yeah he was a chump. But being a chump doesn't mean he is automatically stuck with the bill.
 

waggy

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If he presents his case without the emotion. I think he has as much a chance as any getting her portion of the hotel + food costs. Yeah he was a chump. But being a chump doesn't mean he is automatically stuck with the bill.

he needs proof she agreed to pay for half.

Right now its his word against hers. It looks as if he was trying to get in her pants. he paid to fly to PR to watch her compete in a buety contest. he paid for the motel.

he looks like a chump. he was trying to impress her and she didn't go for it. now he is having a hissy fit and wan't to get back at her for not hooking up with him.


If she is calm and just sticks to that he will lose.
 

MaxPayne63

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This seems like fail on so many levels, and without any sort of written agreement or witnesses to the same effect why would a judge believe that he just went down there to see the pageant or whatever and they agreed to split the tab? All she has to do is say he is trying to punish her for not putting out. Who is going to say it happened differently?

OP needs to just sack up and write this off as a learning experience.
 

Ancalagon44

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I think you may have to write this off.

However... the following may help you.

The room was in her name, right? But you paid for it?

So if its her word against yours, tell the judge you agreed to pay the half but not the full amount. She will then need written proof that you agreed to pay the full amount, because its in her name.
 
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The airfare was a long shot, based on the fact that she requested me to go to PR with her under a pretense that she was qualified by age eligibility. Since she had lied to the pageant and to me, cause I would have gone else where instead for a real vacation.

Secondly, there is no record of her in writing that she would pay half, but she told me in front of my friend mike. Further more, why would I cancel my hotel room otherwise. I had my own freaking room. should have kept the room and f'd her.

The thing is that this was totally my fault. I realized that it went too far, against my own principles where you pay for your own shit. I gave in to her plead to share the room costs since it was just the two of us and bang.. i get stuck with the bill.

The airfare is probably not recoverable, thats fine, but the hotel costs if we did it that way, she will will owe me about $800 on just the room. That indiscriminately ordering room service ( i didnt ) will get to her.

this is a girl who believes men should worship the ground a woman walks on. I say 'fu' to a woman like that, you since you dont deserve to be worshipped.
 

GagHalfrunt

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The thing is that this was totally my fault.

That's the only shred on intelligence that you've displayed in this thread and apparently, in this entire situation.

It is totally your fault, the money lost was an idiot tax. Take your ass-whooping like a man and get a LOT smarter in the future.
 

boomerang

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If you go after her, how unhappy are you going to be when she claims you raped her? Recognize the situation you're in, put it behind you and learn from it.
 

Ancalagon44

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If you go after her, how unhappy are you going to be when she claims you raped her? Recognize the situation you're in, put it behind you and learn from it.

This is something to be aware of.

This woman sounds like somebody would lie about anything to get her way - that includes claiming you raped her.

The allegations would obviously be false, but how do you prove that? She could come out with a sob story about how she was too terrified to say anything until now.

Or she could claim you pestered her into going with you, wanting to sleep in the same room because you wanted sex, and that you are wanting your money back because she didnt sleep with you?
 
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The thought of her calling out 'rape' has crossed my mind. She is fully capable of doing such shit.. but at some point calling rape when there was no such rape, she would be lying out of her teeth. There has to be some punishment for women who lie like that..

The fact is that the law is skewed towards women, we men get the shaft on this. This is the one thing that she can claim, and there is no proof over it, other than a lie detector test.

All this makes me sad, that women can lie and get away with things.
 

TallBill

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The thought of her calling out 'rape' has crossed my mind. She is fully capable of doing such shit.. but at some point calling rape when there was no such rape, she would be lying out of her teeth. There has to be some punishment for women who lie like that..

The fact is that the law is skewed towards women, we men get the shaft on this. This is the one thing that she can claim, and there is no proof over it, other than a lie detector test.

All this makes me sad, that women can lie and get away with things.

Don't be a sucker. And don't ever let someone owe you money unless you can lose it.
 
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Don't be a sucker. And don't ever let someone owe you money unless you can lose it.

Thing is that I didnt ever think I'd be taken on this, since she pleaded to room in and she said she would pay me back at the hotel, and said she would pay me $200 initially.

None of that ever happened. She is a fucking psychopath thats all I can say. Her reign in the pageant is long over, she is still running around wearing that sash. Here is the funny thing - that sash, she didnt earn / win it, she bought it for $1200.. ego maniac woman!

I learned a lot about pageant systems, and how corrupt they are and how the low end ones are just money making schemes for the people who run the pageant.
 

AlienCraft

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OP: unless you've got tape or a witness, you're better off just learning this lesson and rid yourself of her. Getting a verdict/judgement isn't the same as collecting on it, and as the ancient philosopher Tacitus said "If it doesn't fuck you, or make you money, or please you in some way, why spend time on it?" Maybe that was Adam Carolla, I forget....:D
 
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