Atomic bombs are nothing more then scare tactic

wchou

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That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm

 

Strk

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Germany surrendered and Hitler committed suicide several months before the nukes were dropped.

And what exactly is the point of this thread?
 

ntdz

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Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm

What country are you from? It sure as hell isn't a native english speaking country, thats for sure.

For one, Hitler didn't surrender, he killed himself. Also, Germany surrendered before Japan did and because they were defeated, not because of the threat of a nuclear bomb. Their entire country was a wasteland once we got done with it anyway, it was like it was hit by a nuclear bomb.
 

Genx87

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We didnt have nuclear weapons until after Germany surrendered. If Germany was still standing and there was fight left in her the first target would have been Berlin.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm
Date Hitler committed suicide: April 30, 1945

Date first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima: August 6, 1945

Radius of total destruction and death from largest nuclear weapon ever detonated: 30 miles (1,000 times more powerful than Hiroshima)

OP brain cell count: ZERO

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
And america killed more people in one massacre in germany then hiroshoma, and?
You're right... we were totally evil... we should have just left Germany and Japan alone so they could keep on murdering millions more innocents than they already had...

:roll:<^>
 

jackschmittusa

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Maybe the OP will get a history book for Christmas.

We did not even know for sure that the bomb would work till after Germany surrendered.

Germany surrendered unconditionally after Hitler was dead.

There were a lot of reasons to use the atomic bomb, some of them even political (containing Soviet influence in Asia for example). But it should also be remembered that the use of 2 atomic weapons likely saved more Japanese lives than it took. In some instances during the island-hopping campaign, the kill ratio between American and Japanese troops (well trained and armed Japanese troops BTW), approached 10:1. How many Japanese would have died during an invasion of the home islands? Considering that many of the defenders would have been poorly armed and poorly trained militia, the numbers would have been staggering.
 

cKGunslinger

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Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm
What?! You mean a device that results in a huge detonation and can be used to immediately incinerate hundreds of thousands of people is used to scare people? No!

Also, learning just a tiny bit of history would save you from some embarrassment on your dates there.
 

stateofbeasley

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wchou, you should probably read up on your history books before making yourself look like an idiot. Japan was the target, not "asian". Remember that the Japanese butchered Chinese and Koreans in the name of their empire, and that China was an ally of the United States during WWII.

The ignorance of some people in this forum never ceases to amaze me.
 

Harvey

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Deaths from nukes would be like any other weapon if they didn't glow for thousands of years after an explosion. Aside from the horror of immediate mass deaths, there would be generations of genetic casualties, and a large area around a nuke hit would be contaminated and unsuitable for human existance essentially forever.

Nukes are too horrible to consider, even as a last resort. :(
 

Steeplerot

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm
Date Hitler committed suicide: April 30, 1945

Date first atomic bomb was dropped on Hiroshima: August 6, 1945

Radius of total destruction and death from largest nuclear weapon ever detonated: 30 miles (1,000 times more powerful than Hiroshima)

OP brain cell count: ZERO

Originally posted by: Steeplerot
And america killed more people in one massacre in germany then hiroshoma, and?
You're right... we were totally evil... we should have just left Germany and Japan alone so they could keep on murdering millions more innocents than they already had...

:roll:<^>


When you havew a grip on what I am talking about come back.
that has to be one of the most assinine concusions I have heard around here latley.
 

wchou

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First of all I think world wars is planned and well crafted into uniting the world into one nation. War did not end after world war 2, I think thats the biggest scam in history and we're all buying it. Most things are rigged because they want it to happen that way, it is not by mere chance. I don't know how we will have a peaceful world in the future if war continues indefinitely, most of us who are sane would rather make friends then enemy. So what's causing people to fight each other, causes massive destruction, and atrocities? That's what I don't get. War is hell, war is not fun, it's not justice either, it's the world gone mad. In this state everyone is confused and will make poor decision in their life. War maybe their answer to population control but it was violence and many suffered trauma. Our lives are treated like worthless, expendable and easily replaceable. People who enjoy killing should be locked up, not let lose in wars and harm innocent civilians who is just trying enjoy their life and make a living.

 

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Originally posted by: wchou
First of all I think world wars is planned . . .
Most people think there is absolutely no connection between bad logic and bad grammar. Allow me to demur.

 

NJDevil

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm

What country are you from? It sure as hell isn't a native english speaking country, thats for sure.

For one, Hitler didn't surrender, he killed himself. Also, Germany surrendered before Japan did and because they were defeated, not because of the threat of a nuclear bomb. Their entire country was a wasteland once we got done with it anyway, it was like it was hit by a nuclear bomb.

Don't forget the Russians. The war in the east was far more ferocious than the ones the British/Americans faced. Germans and Russians had quite a racial rivalry, whereas Germans/Brits/Americans lacked strong racial tensions.
 

Cerb

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Originally posted by: wchou
First of all I think world wars is planned and well crafted into uniting the world into one nation. War did not end after world war 2, I think thats the biggest scam in history and we're all buying it. Most things are rigged because they want it to happen that way, it is not by mere chance. I don't know how we will have a peaceful world in the future if war continues indefinitely, most of us who are sane would rather make friends then enemy. So what's causing people to fight each other, causes massive destruction, and atrocities? That's what I don't get. War is hell, war is not fun, it's not justice either, it's the world gone mad. In this state everyone is confused and will make poor decision in their life. War maybe their answer to population control but it was violence and many suffered trauma. Our lives are treated like worthless, expendable and easily replaceable. People who enjoy killing should be locked up, not let lose in wars and harm innocent civilians who is just trying enjoy their life and make a living.
Unfortunately, war doesn't do much for population control--it causes more babies, because of all the nasty stress.

Now, a nasty bird flu, and skeeter-born virii that cna mutate from benign to dangerous...there's your population control.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: wchou
First of all I think world wars is planned . . .
Most people think there is absolutely no connection between bad logic and bad grammar. Allow me to demur.
Yeah, well all your base are belong to us.

And you don't say Let me demur. You should say, May I have some myrrh please.
 

Whaspe

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: Perknose
Originally posted by: wchou
First of all I think world wars is planned . . .
Most people think there is absolutely no connection between bad logic and bad grammar. Allow me to demur.
Yeah, well all your base are belong to us.

Okay... that had me splitting my gut! LOL :laugh:
 

Whaspe

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Originally posted by: wchou
First of all I think world wars is planned and well crafted into uniting the world into one nation. War did not end after world war 2, I think thats the biggest scam in history and we're all buying it. Most things are rigged because they want it to happen that way, it is not by mere chance. I don't know how we will have a peaceful world in the future if war continues indefinitely, most of us who are sane would rather make friends then enemy. So what's causing people to fight each other, causes massive destruction, and atrocities? That's what I don't get. War is hell, war is not fun, it's not justice either, it's the world gone mad. In this state everyone is confused and will make poor decision in their life. War maybe their answer to population control but it was violence and many suffered trauma. Our lives are treated like worthless, expendable and easily replaceable. People who enjoy killing should be locked up, not let lose in wars and harm innocent civilians who is just trying enjoy their life and make a living.

You're absolutely right. Hitler wanted world domination and liebensraum for his superior race of Germans. Buying into their own rhetoric and ideologies about the German volk, they felt they were invincible.

War exists because of lack of dialogue, lack of communication. We can sit here and blame sides in any dispute as too who isn't listening, but in essence, a break in communication leads to hostilities.

However, I sense alot of paranoia and conspiracy in your words. It's this sort of shroud that hangs over the types of conflicts you desire to avoid.

 

rahvin

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Originally posted by: wchou
War did not end after world war 2, I think thats the biggest scam in history and we're all buying it.

War has always existed and probably always will. There has not been a moment in human history where there wasn't war being waged.
 

totalcommand

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Originally posted by: ntdz
Originally posted by: wchou
That's right, it's intimidation to cause the enemy nation to surrender unconditionally. The number of people die from 2 atomic bomb are nothing compared to the holocaust of germany. Now why is the asian a target and not germany??? I smell racist, their like guinea pigs for their experiment of a gigantic grenade to scare the whole world. Even hitler quickly surrended fearing he will be next.

http://inventors.about.com/library/weekly/aa050300a.htm

What country are you from? It sure as hell isn't a native english speaking country, thats for sure.

For one, Hitler didn't surrender, he killed himself. Also, Germany surrendered before Japan did and because they were defeated, not because of the threat of a nuclear bomb. Their entire country was a wasteland once we got done with it anyway, it was like it was hit by a nuclear bomb.


much worse than a nuclear bomb. the amount of destruction caused by the firebombing of the cities has gotta be at least 100X the damage caused by the hiroshima bomb