Originally posted by: Perknose
A bit OT, but Hitler was looking for living room, not loving room.
Lebens, liebens, close enough
If we remain silent, America will become the next Germany sooner then you think. Since 2000, our life style have changed dramatically due to change in foreign policy and our rights as a citizen have been jeopardized because our weakness of fear. When good men do nothing, bad men triump. They love to threaten you if you speak up, it's a tool of dictatorship and it has always worked in the past. To defeat them you have to conquer your fear. Life is short so do what is right, don't let any bullies have their ways as they will continue to repeat the same thing over and over until the world is under their control. Slaves have no freedom and that's no different from a farm animal.
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/sep2005/nola-s08.shtml
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2005/sep2005/nola-s08.shtml
Get real. America is guided by our consitution. Our millitary doesn't swear featly to the president or government, they swear loyalty to the constitution. You are one of the only ones here that are being governed by fear, it rules your lives but not mine.
Originally posted by: Strk
Originally posted by: Perknose
A bit OT, but Hitler was looking for living room, not loving room.
Lebens, liebens, close enough
Haha... little slip of the tongue there. Oops!
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Who ever said that war ended after World War 2? Do you not have CNN where you live?
Are you maybe confusing the phrase 'War to end all wars? to mean that is literally ended all wars? That saying means that it was the most profound war ever, the greatest or most meaningful.
I think you are giving way to much credit to 'them.' Do you really think that there is one illuminati out there controlling everything unopposed? Because if there is more then one, then everything can not be rigged, and much of it has to happen by chance, if only the chance of who won this round.
Obviously, we will not have a peaceful world if we have war. If someone told you that we were going to have a peaceful world, they lied to you.
Here is what causes wars (in no particular order)
Food, Alcohol, Money, Sex, Land, Drugs, Religion, Population, Politics, Education, Communication, Hate, Love?
Pretty much find anything two people in a bar might fight over and a war can be started for the same reason.
That is the natural state of the world. That is the reason that we formed societies and governments, to control a mad world. You want to change human nature, well it can?t be done.
If you are going to make a statement like this:
"And america killed more people in one massacre in germany then hiroshoma, and?"
Back up your statement at least with some specifics.
Germany started bombing the city of London, and after that they deserved all they got. So lets put things in perspective. World War II was a bloody war and both sides went far beyond what we have been doing lately in a war. When you start rounding up Civilians because of their race and send them to death camps and gassing them and then incenerate the bodies and stealing all their jewelry and property, you are nothing but a thief and a murderer. It is one thing to get rid of an ememy race because they are attacking you, but the Jews were not fighting a war, they were not killing germans, they were non-combatants. The Jews were the enemy of convenience and a scapegoat.
Japan was a ruthless country. They mistreated military prisoners and women and children also. In China Japan gave away candy to children laced with Opium. In South Korea they stole all the Trees, stole the crops and tried to starve out the populations to control them. Before you start talking about Asian Countries in time of war you better learn some facts. Asia was ruthless to itself as well as to its western enemies. It got so bad that the USA was using a crude form of Napalm on Tokyo and Japan still would not give up. Japan could have negotiated a peace if the Emporer chose to. If anything the Western world was too nice to Japan. Not only did we defeat Japan, but we then helped them to rebuild their own country after the war.
Sounds like we are using some selective memory.
War is hell and pray that you dont have to be in a war. If a country is attacked, I say they have a right to fight in the whatever way seems fit to them at the time. Just remember that it is tit for tat in a war. If one side bombs civilians then the other side probably will do the same. If one sides beaks the Geneva Convention then the other side has the right to retaliate in-kind.
The US has missles that can pack 16 nuclear warheads and fire them in a pattern over a large area. You understimate the power of the present missles systems. I pray we never use nuclear weapons, but I feel we might retaliate if it came down to that. One problem is attacking the unseen and unknown terrorists.
"And america killed more people in one massacre in germany then hiroshoma, and?"
Back up your statement at least with some specifics.
Germany started bombing the city of London, and after that they deserved all they got. So lets put things in perspective. World War II was a bloody war and both sides went far beyond what we have been doing lately in a war. When you start rounding up Civilians because of their race and send them to death camps and gassing them and then incenerate the bodies and stealing all their jewelry and property, you are nothing but a thief and a murderer. It is one thing to get rid of an ememy race because they are attacking you, but the Jews were not fighting a war, they were not killing germans, they were non-combatants. The Jews were the enemy of convenience and a scapegoat.
Japan was a ruthless country. They mistreated military prisoners and women and children also. In China Japan gave away candy to children laced with Opium. In South Korea they stole all the Trees, stole the crops and tried to starve out the populations to control them. Before you start talking about Asian Countries in time of war you better learn some facts. Asia was ruthless to itself as well as to its western enemies. It got so bad that the USA was using a crude form of Napalm on Tokyo and Japan still would not give up. Japan could have negotiated a peace if the Emporer chose to. If anything the Western world was too nice to Japan. Not only did we defeat Japan, but we then helped them to rebuild their own country after the war.
Sounds like we are using some selective memory.
War is hell and pray that you dont have to be in a war. If a country is attacked, I say they have a right to fight in the whatever way seems fit to them at the time. Just remember that it is tit for tat in a war. If one side bombs civilians then the other side probably will do the same. If one sides beaks the Geneva Convention then the other side has the right to retaliate in-kind.
The US has missles that can pack 16 nuclear warheads and fire them in a pattern over a large area. You understimate the power of the present missles systems. I pray we never use nuclear weapons, but I feel we might retaliate if it came down to that. One problem is attacking the unseen and unknown terrorists.
Most of us seem to take the american history as truth which is biased toward america as being the best country in the world who has done no wrong? so who is telling the truth? no one, all is guilty as sin. two wrong does not make a right. people fight for stupid reason like superiority over another, racism, nazism, or just want to beat the crap out of another human being so they will bend over and become your slaves forever. Their is no wrong or right in life. People tend to follow the crowd and if you get out of line then the rest will criticise that individual for being different. the stronger shall rule over the weaker ones, why don't people get it yet? by threatning others by any means, you shall get your ways and its been done repeatedly in the past. our children never learns the truth, they tend to think that life is fair but it's not due to our corrupt educational system.
Your life would be more productive if you laid off the crack, PCP, haulcinagenics or whatever it is that you are taking or not taking that you should be.
And so by this logic I could very well feel compelled to war, and war all the time, as there is no right or wrong to hold me sway.
You have completely lost me. I have no idea what you are trying to say. In the above paragraph you have at least 4 or 5 topics; I suggest you pick one topic and stick with it.
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