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Atlas Shrugged: Part 1 (Movie)

Ayn Rand crap ideology.

You should be ashamed for promoting something not only so worthless but wrong and causing evil.
 
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Go see the movie on the 15th, and judge for yourself. 🙂

I'll betcha dollars to doughnuts, Craig will be in line. 🙂

-John {Galt}
 
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Communism is not right... and Ayn Rand's largest villan.

Free Market is her answer.

You may claim to know better than her.. but that doesn't make you right.

-John {Galt}
 
When i read about Ayn Rand i shrug too.

The woman was a hypocrite.
And a believer in her utopia.
A blind follower of a delusion that even in fiction is a delusion.

Why watch the movie when i know the story from reading.
 
Reading a part?

I'm not sure I understand. Either, you know who Ayn Rand is, and discount her ideas, without reading her books, or, you have read her books, and know who Ayn Rand is.

-John {Galt}
 
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Communism is not right... and Ayn Rand's largest villan.

Free Market is her answer.

You may claim to know better than her.. but that doesn't make you right.

-John {Galt}

Neither are right. She went extreme in the opposite direction to communism.

The extreme of anything is never good. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
 
Neither are right. She went extreme in the opposite direction to communism.

The extreme of anything is never good. Why is that so hard for people to understand?
It's not the extreme. She was tring to counterbalance the state... and now what have we? The state is all that is important.

Individualism is lost.

She was prophetic.

-John {Galt}
 
Free Markets mean all can be what they are. There is no limitation on them.

No Taxes, no Government, no Religion.

It's a simple idea, and one that Government would like to abolish.

-John {Galt}
 
Civilization is a good thing. Rand's vaunted "captains of industry" are just more of the same bourgeois class screwing us she hates government for.

She was also a nut who was into rape and considered child kidnapper/murderers a hero.

The movie looks like a shitty made for tv thing (or at best youtube) but then what do you expect from a bunch of greedy sociopaths trying to make "art".
 
Civilization is a good thing. Rand's vaunted "captains of industry" are just more of the same bourgeois class screwing us she hates government for.

She was also a nut who was into rape and considered child kidnapper/murderers a hero.

The movie looks like a shitty made for tv thing (or at best youtube) but then what do you expect from a bunch of greedy sociopaths trying to make "art".
I'll post back when I've seen it... but anyone with the fortitude to break Atlas Shrugged into part 1 has my kudos. 🙂

-John {Galt}
 
Reading a part?

I'm not sure I understand. Either, you know who Ayn Rand is, and discount her ideas, without reading her books, or, you have read her books, and know who Ayn Rand is.

-John {Galt}

I have read about her history.
I watched shows where she explains her point of view on various different subject.
I have seen documentaries about her.
I have read parts of her fiction.

She was in the basic no different then Khadaffi or Marx.
Nice idea's for an utopia, but always living on others while claiming being superior and having superior idea's.
 
Reading a part?

I'm not sure I understand. Either, you know who Ayn Rand is, and discount her ideas, without reading her books, or, you have read her books, and know who Ayn Rand is.

I was a hardcore Rand fan years ago (and still am a fan to some extent) and believed in laissez-faire capitalism until I acquired more first-hand knowledge of how the real world works. Now I advocate a mixed economy and even <gasp> socialized medicine.

Her philosophy is internally consistent and she had some good ideas, a great many of which I wholeheartedly agree with (atheism, objective reality, reason, rational self interest), but she ended up adopting a couple bad premises when it came to politics. For example, her claim that there can be no such thing as a legitimate conflict of interest between rational men is ludicrous. I think her politics also discounts the interconnectedness and interdependency that people in a society have on one another. I question whether real capitalism is actually in a person's rational selfish interest.

Atlas Shrugged is a great novel and anyone who is interested in ideas should read it, regardless of whether you agree with it. I doubt that any movie could serve as a worthy substitute for it.
 
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