Atlantic Ocean getting hot as hell - could be monstrous hurricane season

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Hurricane Milton you say?
 

Lanyap

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Our contractor is engaged and they are demoing the walls. The water line was 43+ inches. Everyone on Clearwater North Beach was flooded 3-4 feet. Looks like a war zone in the residential areas. It's the same up the western Florida coast from Tampa Bay. I guess we won't be replacing anything until Milton comes through.

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Our contractor is engaged and they are demoing the walls. The water line was 43+ inches. Everyone on Clearwater North Beach was flooded 3-4 feet. Looks like a war zone in the residential areas. It's the same up the western Florida coast from Tampa Bay. I guess we won't be replacing anything until Milton comes through.

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I just got into DIY a few years ago and have never lived in a hurricane/ flood area.. but is the demo necessary?

Can't the wooden structure be dried out and rebuilt upon?

I've seen a few houses remodelled like that.. they keep the foundation, studs and joists but redid the interior and replaced the side panels with bricks.
 
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'Demo' in that sense usually means as pictured, stripped to the stud for rebuild.

But you have to remember, this is not a normal flood. This is salt water that can corrode things like nails, screws, anchors that hold walls to the floor, wiring, metal electrical boxes, etc.






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Lanyap

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I just got into DIY a few years ago and have never lived in a hurricane/ flood area.. but is the demo necessary?

Can't the wooden structure be dried out and rebuilt upon?

I've seen a few houses remodelled like that.. they keep the foundation, studs and joists but redid the interior and replaced the side panels with bricks.



The contractor comes in with a moisture meter and sticks it in the sheetrock wall multiple times while moving up the wall. He does this with multiple walls. When it reaches a certain moisture reading like less than 10% he considers it the waterline and adds 12 in (I believe) because the flood water wicks up the sheetrock. They strip the sheetrock and trim off down to bare studs then bring in dehumidifiers and dryers to dry out the studs. This normally last several days. Then they spray the studs with Antimicrobial and other disinfecting chemicals. When that drys they normally spray some type of sealer. When the environment is ready they install the new sheetrock and trim.
 

Lanyap

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'Demo' in that sense usually means as pictured, stripped to the stud for rebuild.

But you have to remember, this is not a normal flood. This is salt water that can corrode things like nails, screws, anchors that hold walls to the floor, wiring, metal electrical boxes, etc.






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Yeah, that salt water is bad news. It's starts rusting bare steel almost immediately.
 

Stokely

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it probably doesn't help that it's still 90 billion degrees with 1000 percent humidity here in Desantis-land.

Just coming back from a trip to MN has eroded my tolerance to....level "thin".

We own some properties in FL but thankfully nothing on the coast. I'd be selling pronto if I did. As it is my wife and I have talked about selling before this place becomes a 120 degree swamp. For whatever ungodly reason, people still want to move here for now. That said, when Harvey came through my friend had to boat to his place for weeks due to St. Johns river flood plains, well, "flooding" and he's nowhere near the coast. Welcome to the new normal of "1000 year floods" every decade or so.
 
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Wreckem

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I am of course flying to MCO on Monday and out of FLL on Friday. Gonna pack a lil extra for this trip just in case.
I’m supposed to by flying in Wednesday night and flying out Sunday night. We will see what happens as the forecast gets more accurate. Right now we would be landing in the tail part of a hurricane which means of forecast stays might flight is likely to get cancelled.

If my flight on Weds night gets canceled I’ll probably try to shift Thursday to Monday.
 

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Looks like some spice.
Major impact near Tampa on Wednesday.
Potential track looks wide, maybe it'll verify further from Tampa. Regardless, someone is going to have a bad day.

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I’m supposed to by flying in Wednesday night and flying out Sunday night. We will see what happens as the forecast gets more accurate. Right now we would be landing in the tail part of a hurricane which means of forecast stays might flight is likely to get cancelled.

If my flight on Weds night gets canceled I’ll probably try to shift Thursday to Monday.

I have a family event Tuesday afternoon in Melbourne then bolting for Fort Lauderdale right after. Hopefully will get out of the way just in time.
 

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With once in a lifetime catastrophic flooding and destruction throughout the southern Appalachian mountains....

The inland impacts of Helene have been highly politicized for this year's election.
Full on MAGA campaign to pretend the Fed Gov is not involved in helping anyone.
Which of course diverts to talks of money and how it is spent on undesirables instead.
In reality the parade of unexpectedly catastrophic climate change impacted events should gain votes for Democrats and cost Republicans because Democrats are the ones who recognize that the climate change crisis is no hoax. Put 2 and 2 together, huh? WTH does it take? Could Florida go blue in a month? I have heard it's a possibility even before Helene and Milton.
 
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Looks like some spice.
Major impact near Tampa on Wednesday.
Potential track looks wide, maybe it'll verify further from Tampa. Regardless, someone is going to have a bad day.

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CBS evening news tonight showed Milton's projected landfall a direct hit on west FL coast, category 3. I suppose that means 2-4 at this point and of course the path could change but right now Tampa looks like the bullseye.
 

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Looks like some spice.
Major impact near Tampa on Wednesday.
Potential track looks wide, maybe it'll verify further from Tampa. Regardless, someone is going to have a bad day.

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I was watching another forecaster and they have a tracking model that shows a correlation between storm strength and track. The stronger it is the more northerly it will track plus the jet stream is picking it up just like Helene. NAS Jacksonville has already gone to COR 4.
 

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This snapshot of various hurricane forecast models from yesterday had a humorous outlier, I think someone forgot to initialize their model ~ heading perfectly due north, at a perfectly constant velocity, seems somewhat, umm, atypical...
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[DHT]Osiris

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I have a family event Tuesday afternoon in Melbourne then bolting for Fort Lauderdale right after. Hopefully will get out of the way just in time.
I'd be wary of everyone else having the exact same idea. I'd rather miss one family function than be sitting in my car on a highway in the middle of a cat 2