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Atkins Advantage Bars

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Many people pseudo-referenced the new england journal of medicine. As a regular reader of this publication, I know there is an issue dedicated to diets such as Atkins. There is even an article in that issue looking at the methods used to perform these studies. Anyways I think it came out in May. Check it out if you can find it online somewhere (I won't try to paraphrase anything, especially because I only read threads once 😀 )
 
If you are diabetic and want to do a low carb diet, I encourage you to read the Low Carb Solution by Dr. Bernstien. It is very helpful, informative and a life saver for my 68 year old mother who now takes 1/2 the meds she used to have to take and got her blood sugar under control without the insulin shots her dumb A#$$ doctor was about to put her on. Don't buy in to the Government's Food Chart -- look at the current data and you will see we ALL eat too much refined sugar/flour.

Here is the book at Amazon.
 
Originally posted by: Lestan
Good info on this thread, although it seems there are quite a few know-it-alls who caution against Atkins. Just follow Atkin's red book and you'll be fine. America has an obesity problem. Typical American diet is carb laden. Coincidence? Doubtful. And any doctor will tell you that obesity is far more dangerous than ketosis....

I agree. My favorite "reasoning" against Atkins is when someone brings up, "The Japanese have a high carb diet, all that rice..." Or "The French eat all that bread, sweets, and drink wine..."

Then I usually counter with, " Yea, but did you ever see the portions they eat???" True the Japanese and French eat alot of carbs, but they eat very small portions. Whereas most Americans would eat huge portions. As Rene Descartes once said, "All things in moderation" (or was that Marcus Aurelius?) eh, they probably both said it.
 
The only problem I had with the Adkins diet was stinky piss (ketosis). Lost 15 lbs in 4 weeks, kept it off for the last 4 weeks. RIP Doc.
 
I am convinced that refined flours, refined sugars, trans fats, caffeine, etc. are very bad.

No no they are the devil as me and my g/f like to say!

3 weeks on the diet
17lbs gone!
No sugar or bread cravings at all!
No more highs and lows, I'm actually more laid back and happier then ever in my life.


This diet is a miracle, I will never go back to the way I used to eat!

I have the GNC gold card thing, 1st thru the 7th of each month is 20% off total purchase!
 
Damn, shipping is $9 a box to me (I'm in Alaska)... makes them almost retail price. 🙁

btw: If anyone is interested, I've started a low carb website for AT users and other people who want to talk and share their thoughts on the diet and low carb foods. http://lowcarbsweb.com
 
I lost about 20 lbs in 6 weeks. I didn't do induction nor did I count carbs. I just eliminated junk food, baked goods, bread, pasta, and starchy fruits and vegetables.

Before and after pics

BTW, I'm not big on bars but I bought a box of Carb Solution bars to bring with me on a recent business trip. They came in handy for breakfast and on the plane. There are too many other goods things to eat to make them a staple in my diet though. I believe that I paid about $15 for 12 bars at Sams Club.
 
Atkins has NOT discontinued the "Chocolate Peanut Butter" bar. To me, it's the best-tasting low carb bar out there, and the only one I buy. Go to the Atkins website and look under Advantage, and you'll see it's there for ordering.

Re: GNC...get the bars during Gold Card days when everything's 20 percent off, on top of other sales. That's when I stock up. I think I end up paying $18-19/box during that time. I buy several boxes at a time, and don't go back until the following month.

The only thing that bothers me about GNC now (given I only buy during Gold days) is that they're constantly hounding you over your shoulder at the stores I go to to try this or that.
 
Been on the atkins plan for about 3 months now. Lost a total of 38 lbs so far (199 to 161).

Here's a pic of a recent support group meeting. You can see that we're all prone to a slip now and again. 😛

QnD

Pic
 
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I lost about 20 lbs in 6 weeks. I didn't do induction nor did I count carbs. I just eliminated junk food, baked goods, bread, pasta, and starchy fruits and vegetables.

Before and after pics

BTW, I'm not big on bars but I bought a box of Carb Solution bars to bring with me on a recent business trip. They came in handy for breakfast and on the plane. There are too many other goods things to eat to make them a staple in my diet though. I believe that I paid about $15 for 12 bars at Sams Club.

WOW!! You just motivated me to get off my fat ass and get on this diet, like immediately. What is your work out regiment like? How are your weekly meals like? Did you work out often before? DId you work out more while on the diet? I also like how the first pic, your pants are above your belly button, but after the 6 weeks, it's hangin low. Good job.
 
Originally posted by: KAMAZON
Originally posted by: Riprorin
I lost about 20 lbs in 6 weeks. I didn't do induction nor did I count carbs. I just eliminated junk food, baked goods, bread, pasta, and starchy fruits and vegetables.

Before and after pics

BTW, I'm not big on bars but I bought a box of Carb Solution bars to bring with me on a recent business trip. They came in handy for breakfast and on the plane. There are too many other goods things to eat to make them a staple in my diet though. I believe that I paid about $15 for 12 bars at Sams Club.

WOW!! You just motivated me to get off my fat ass and get on this diet, like immediately. What is your work out regiment like? How are your weekly meals like? Did you work out often before? DId you work out more while on the diet? I also like how the first pic, your pants are above your belly button, but after the 6 weeks, it's hangin low. Good job.

Thanks!

Not much working out. The before pic was taked on 4/17 and the after pic was taken on 6/10.

As far as excercise, I run 3 - 5 miles a day, lift with light dumbells (25 lbs), and do push ups and situps. I'd like to do more but I have a 6 and 9 year old which doesn't leave me much free time.

For breakfast, I eat 1/2 cup Fiber One cereal, 1/2 cup, of fruit, and 1/2 cup soy milk + yogurt or tofu. For lunch, I eat spinach salad, ham and turkey strips, and blue cheese dressing and an apple with peanut butter. For dinner, I eat meat, fish, or tofu, vegetables, fruit, and yougurt. I snack on nuts, cheese, and olives.

Good luck, it really wasn't that hard. Just try to eat wholesome, nutritious food and get a little excercise!
 
Originally posted by: QuicknDirty
Been on the atkins plan for about 3 months now. Lost a total of 38 lbs so far (199 to 161).

Here's a pic of a recent support group meeting. You can see that we're all prone to a slip now and again. 😛

QnD

Pic

Heh, who provides the support? The users or the beer?
 
This may be a little late all things considered, but Kroger had a deal on Carb Solutions this week (ending today I believe). When you buy one product you get the next one free, so essentially you could get their bars, 6 pack of bars, and shake mixes for half off. Not too shabby if you ask me!

I went to my local Lexington, KY Kroger to get:
6 pack of Carb Solutions - $5.74
Carb Solutions shake mix - $5.49

Their normal prices at Kroger are outrageous though..

As a side note, they have the Atkins Bake Mix for $9.99 which is cheaper than Meijer or other health food stores.
 
Originally posted by: Wingznut Aspartame scares me. I'm not sure if there are any definite studies that prove how bad it is, but there is enough rumblings around that I just feel that (one of these days) it is going to be discovered that it is really evil.

Oh man...after about a year of "eating healthier" (portion control, not Atkins), I lost about 40 lbs. During that time I had switched from 2-3 cans of regular sodas to diet (aspartame) and eating more and more of the nonfat artificially fruity yogurt (again, aspartame). The aspartame eventually started tasting too sweet (particularly too "fake sweet") and I believe my nervous system got fried. Since then I became I conscientous objecter to ingesting aspartame, period. So I'm as leery as you Wingznut.

 
Originally posted by: cruzer
I heard that eating these Atkins protein bars, it makes you have unusual bowel movements.

Unusual BM? Please define a regular BM. You go when you go -- what's regular for one person isn't for another.
 
all I eat is bread and pasta..cuz thats all i know how to make/cook...
I cant get away from PBnJ..
any suggestions on some tasty and quick food to make?
 
First off, for all my protein bar and shake needs I always go to www.vitaglo.com. They have free shipping on orders over $50, and almost always the best prices you can find. Atkins bars are $20 for a box of 15, and they'll even let you mix up the flavors within a box (up to 3). I think the Atkins bars taste good, but I also like Biochem Lo Carb bars (not low carb 2 bars). Vitaglo also carries the bread mixes and all that stuff at good prices.

As for the diet itself, I think a lot of the negative views stem from not understanding the diet. No one stays in the intervention (super low carb state) forever. I haven't read the Atkins book, but I have read the Protein Power book and on that plan you eat 70-130g of carbs a day on maintenance. That's plenty of room for all the fruits and veggies you want, you just can't eat a huge bowl of pasta or super sized fries. Before I lift or do some intense mountain biking however I will up my carbs some. But someone has yet to tell me why I need the quick energy from carbs when I'm sitting on my ass at work all day typing.

I dropped 10 pounds fairly quickly, and my body fat percentage dropped too. I didn't have much to lose, so I'm much more cut now. the cool thing I think is that I don't get that post-meal drowsiness that I used to with high carb meals.

Interesting facts that I read:
- The food pyramid was designed by the Department of Agriculture. Since when did they become experts on health?
- The ancient civilization that most followed our current food pyramid is the ancient Egyptions. They had high carb, low fat, low protein diets. They also had a very high rate of heart disease, diabetes, and hypertension. (found from mummy examinations). Coincidence?
- For you beer lovers, 12oz of miller lite has 3.2g of carbs, Coors Light has 4.4, Bud Light has 6.6, and suprisingly Guiness has 5g. That'll give you some choices over Michelob Ultra (2.9g). Realize though that regular beers are in the 10-15g range, so those aren't entirely off limits.

Oh, and as for the bowel movements, some people have trouble with eating too much sugar alcohols like malitol, sorbitol, etc. So check the ingredients label, and ease into those to test yourself.
 
Originally posted by: imaklone
Originally posted by: Wingznut Aspartame scares me. I'm not sure if there are any definite studies that prove how bad it is, but there is enough rumblings around that I just feel that (one of these days) it is going to be discovered that it is really evil.

Oh man...after about a year of "eating healthier" (portion control, not Atkins), I lost about 40 lbs. During that time I had switched from 2-3 cans of regular sodas to diet (aspartame) and eating more and more of the nonfat artificially fruity yogurt (again, aspartame). The aspartame eventually started tasting too sweet (particularly too "fake sweet") and I believe my nervous system got fried. Since then I became I conscientous objecter to ingesting aspartame, period. So I'm as leery as you Wingznut.
My wife had a fairly scarey episode after consuming a bunch of aspartame (she never touches the stuff). Bad headache, saw black, felt very dizzy, etc...

I read a study a few days ago that stated this happens to some people because aspartame is a toxin. I also read (although, I'm not positive that it's true) that even though the FDA has approved aspartame, they didn't approve it as a sweetener.

If I ever find the need to consume an artificial sweetener, I go out of my way to find a product using sucralose if at all possible.

 
Originally posted by: imaklone
Originally posted by: cruzer
I heard that eating these Atkins protein bars, it makes you have unusual bowel movements.

Unusual BM? Please define a regular BM. You go when you go -- what's regular for one person isn't for another.


Unfortunately you are incorrect. The difference in BM per individual shouldnt differ "nearly" as extreme as it does. There isnt a "golden rule" but for all practical you should have at "least" one BM a day. If you dont you are either not eating enough, OR your eating the typical american diet of High-fat,highly processed grains and low fiber foods (white breads,meat...) I eat a diet with a large amount of fiber, I have BM 2-3 times a day usually (around meal times, makes sense, what goes in must come out right?) They only take me 20 seconds. Never any discomfort. Never ANY, and I mean ANY mess to clean up. Back when I used to eat a lot of junk food I thought life was all about irregular BM's loose stool and consitipation with no rythym or pattern...

I know several people on atkins, they have to drink fiber supplements 2-3 times a day and still have trouble having regular BM's... Personally I'm not sold on atkins at all... I'm sure there are specific places were it could be useful (like dropping 100lbs before you open bypass surgery... hhmmm wonder why they need a bypass in the first place, I bet it involved meat,hydrogenated oils and deep fryers...) But other then that I have a hard time thinking of a worse diet, I'm being serious. here lets see...

How can we design a diet that will maximize the amount of...

***Suffering caused to animals
***Waste involved with providing the most wasteful forms of nutrition (ie, meat,eggs,dairy... It takes 9 times the calories worth of grains/grasses to get 1 calorie of meat)
***The amount of fats we can consume (specifically saturated and hydrogenated, NO escaping this one)
***Pollution released to the enviroment (remember 9x the grains to feed the livestock to give a single unit of meat,milk,eggs... so that means 9x the pesticides,petroleum)
***Maximize colesterol intake by multiple times the recomended limit
***Maximize the amount of chemicals,pesticides, growth hormones you can injest (hhmm, funny how girls are having there periods at 10-11 years old now, ask your grandparents when was a usual time when they were young.... I'm almost more concerned about this stuff then the bad types of fats you eat!)

oh man I'm just getting started... Atkins = Lets die slowly, while we rape the planet. I mean come'on do you really expect to be able to eat all this "crap" eggs, cheese, flesh and have NO ill effects? theres no such thing as a free lunch, Or having your cake and eating it too. I really dont care what someone else does to there body, its theres to do with as they wish. But dont go and destroy my planet, pollute my water and enslave my fellow earthbound bretheren because you dont have the will power to truly manage your own deit.

Did you know that last year north america and eroupe fed MORE calories worth of grains/oats/grasses to live stock then would have been needed to give every human on planet earth the appropriate amount of calories to live.? sure your lacking some important vitamines and minerals. But the calorie is the most important unit of energy for life. And we could have fed the world with what we wasted on getting a few hundred million people there rump roasts and prime ribs. I hope you think about that next time savor the still blood red juice for your medium rare, flame kissed sirloin. And if that really doesnt bother you then eat up, and just get this over with you might survive the first triple bypass... but that second is a doozy...

Ok Ok, that was a little harsh and I appologize. I get pretty worked up about this all the time, it only takes a few what I consider to be inaccurate posts to set me off. OF course I admit not every book I've read will be 100% correct nor will my opiononis be 100% objective.

My nutritional background is short but intense. I've only been independantly studing nutrition for the last year or so. I've read a LARGE number of books on the subject and usually spend a few (and a few too many sometimes) hours a day reading forums, medical journals and books.

I am 5'9" jan 1st of this year I weight 240lbs. I was fed up and sick of gaining weight and having no energy. It was terrible. So I got serious about controlling my diet. Unforunately for the first couple months i had little sucess controll my urges or my portions. Finnaly I was so frustrated and had been reading alot of information on "radical" dietary changes. about the end of febuary the begin'ing of march I made a decision to:

"Quit" eating all meats (fish included)
STRONGLY avoid hydrogenated oils and shortenings.
Strongly avoid eggs and dairy (hard to do, theres traces every were)
Exercise more

55lbs later I feel good. I can run 2 miles without stopping, my stomach problems went away. I can sprint as fast as I did in high school (and I'm still 15lbs heavier!) I dont have any bowel problems. My back pain went away. I never fall asleep at work anymore. I dont require as much sleep. the list goes on...

So yeah I'm baised. All I did was quiting eating wastful over processed crap and animal products. I feel like superman somtimes (hense my animosity towards advice that would have prevented me from having so much sucess) And no the exercise ISNT the reason. I have exercised a bit but its been by no means regular or consitant, for example in the last three weeks I havent been able to exercise AT ALL. but I've still lost nearly 2lbs a week (solid pounds. not just fluctuation) I'm never hungry either, I dont really worry about the amount i eat. because theres very little "bad" stuff in what I have. (I understand that bad is/can be subjective. I'm talking abotu hydrogenated oils, saturated fats, colesterol..)

its late my wife is getting irritated that I'm not in bed yet, I've got band practice at 9am and I have to drive 50 miles one way, ARG!

*puts on flame vest*
 
Originally posted by: joe4324
Originally posted by: imaklone

My nutritional background is short but intense. I've only been independantly studing nutrition for the last year or so. I've read a LARGE number of books on the subject and usually spend a few (and a few too many sometimes) hours a day reading forums, medical journals and books.

55lbs later I feel good. I can run 2 miles without stopping, my stomach problems went away. I can sprint as fast as I did in high school (and I'm still 15lbs heavier!) I dont have any bowel problems. My back pain went away. I never fall asleep at work anymore. I dont require as much sleep. the list goes on...

Two questions for you:

1) In your time of learning about nutrition, did you read at all about insulin resistance and the chronically high levels of insulin that develop because of high carbohydrate content? I found this all very interesting.

2) Congrats on the lost weight. I'm curious - did you happen to have your cholesterol checked before & after?
 
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