ATI's RX480/RS480 Chipset

FinalFantasy

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Since it looks like no one has started a thread on this, I thought I'd bring it up for discussion...

What do you guys think of ATI's answer to nVidia's NF-4/3 lineup, with the release of their ATI Xpress 200 (RX480/RS480) line? ATI Xpress 200 Review

Personally, to be truthful, I was very doubtful that ATI would come out with a chipset that would even remotely rival nVidia's NF chipset, but from the looks of things I might be purchasing an ATI RX480/RS480 to go along with my 90nm A64 chip.

I think the biggest factor, in which ATI sets itself apart from a mediocore chipset maker from a "good" one (which it looks to be) is the fact that they included a very detailed and "scable" bios. This is excellent for overclocking. I know, along with myself, a lot of people were not sure ATI could pull of a good mobo that would not just perform good graphically, but also perform well in workstation/encoding/etc etc benchmarks in stock conditions and also be able to OC on the drop of a dime, without a hitch. ATI's mobo was able to OC to a max FSB of 283
ATI RX480/RS480 MOBO OC with 2 DIMMS...now correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't DFI's board (known as one of the "great" A64 overclockers) based off of the NF3-Gb chipset, only OC to a max FSB of 270 DFI NF3-Gb MOBO OC with 2 DIMMS? The performance gains between 270 and 283 FSB might be marginal, but maybe this is just a prequel of what's to come/be expected of ATI's new chipset...AMAZING PERFORMANCE!!! hehe...j/k I know I can't wait to see some "real life" benchies from AT members/other forum members who buy an ATI Xpress 200 mobo.

So other pros of this mobo is that it supports a RAID configuration similar to nVidia's "Any-Drive" and their integrated graphics solution. I know a lot of people "will/might" be happy if ATI's on-board RAID config is anything compared to nVidia's...nuff said. ATI really did an excellent job on the integrated graphics of this mobo, I know a lot of these boards are going to be going OEM to 3rd party distributors (think of HP, Compaq...might I dare say Dell? j/k) and this is probably the defining reason why this chipset will be so successful. I know a lot of sells goto to hobbyist, such as myself and YOU, but people like HP and Compaq (or should I say HP/Compaq) are going to be jumping on this like hot cakes.

While ATI has done well, IMO stumped nVidia, as in where to go from here, I think we can look to ATI to really step it up from here on out in the chipset area. I think where nVidia is going to get screwed here, is that they just released NF4/NF4-SLI and ATI is really stealing nVidia's thunder when it comes to people thinking about buying NF4 for their next mobo. I know I am seriously considering getting an RX480/RS480 board, as in compared to 1 month ago...I just "knew" I was going to be getting an NF4 mobo...hmm... (I think ATI has accomplished #6 on the "to do list" ...lol and I know a lot of people here feel the same way.

Now all that's left is to see what nVidia's response will be, or if they even have one?!?!
 

jiffylube1024

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Personally, for the moment, I'd stick with NForce4 because it is a more mature platform, given Nvidia's experience in the chipset market compared to ATI. But the RX480 shows promise, and I particularly like the triple (and possibly quadruple) display setup possible by using the integrated video. Hopefully ATI can bring it to the market in a reasonable timeframe, ie keep their word on an early 2005 launch date.
 

Brian23

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It's awesome. M4H, you are just biased. this chipset is PCIe complient, better overclocking than NF4, and it supports SLI. I would buy this over an Nvidia any day.
 

FinalFantasy

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Bah. Less than an X300 integrated?

- M4H

Did you even look at the OC'ing numbers this board put up?

No, and huge OC numbers don't change the fact that the IGP sucks. :p

- M4H

...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.
 

FinalFantasy

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Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire
Bah. Less than an X300 integrated?

- M4H

BTW...show me a mobo with integrated graphics (besides the one in the benches) that can even come close to competing with Xpress 200? ...none...even Intels integrated solution is umm...how do you say...lacking?
 

Avalon

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You can use the add-on card that you obviously already have in conjunction with the IGP. Your add-on will be the primary, and the IGP you can either disable or use to power additional monitors. Plus, if your card ever dies for whatever reason, you'll still be able to use the system if you have no spare video card. What's wrong with this? I think it's excellent.
 

Childs

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Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.

NV has a multi-monitor solution, simply get an SLi board and don't run in SLi mode.
 

jiffylube1024

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.

NV has a multi-monitor solution, simply get an SLi board and don't run in SLi mode.

But that requires purchasing two video cards. This does not.
 

FinalFantasy

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Originally posted by: Childs
Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.

NV has a multi-monitor solution, simply get an SLi board and don't run in SLi mode.


That's not a good solution for someone who is looking for somethingg simple and efficient. If I build a PC for one of the partners in the office I work in and they want a 3 or 4 monitor set up in their house (used for work/light gaming/some DVD playback/Music playback/etc etc), they bill at over $265/hour and time is everything to them, they are not going to want to tinker with "some SLI setting" no matter how simple it may be to turn on/off. Sure it'd be fine for me to take an extra second or two to do this, but for people who are looking to use this for "multimedia" purposes right now ATI has a better solution then nVidia does. BTW...from what I've been hearing/reading/etc etc, ATI's multiple GPU solution does not require you to have "matched" GPU's and SLI does...what's nVidia's answer to that? It's all about ease and efficiency when it comes to mainstream computer buyers...remember, most of these boards are going to 3rd party vendors to resell anyway.
 

Adn4n

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This board looks very promising. I'm delaying my upgrading for another three months.
 

xclusivex

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when exactly does ATI plan on releaseing an SLI type board? and will their current GPU's be able to run in sli mode? im looking to upgrade next month and with SLI readily availible it seems pretty tempting.. plus, call me bias.. ive always had much better luck with Nvidia than ATI.. but being able to do for example, x800 pro in slot 1 and x700 pro in slot two does sound very appealing for decent performance/price upgradability being able to use 1 expensive card and 1 midrange card, with options like that anyone could build a combo of expensive and cheap to rival any flagship "x800 XT PE GT UBER OMG BLEW MY HAIR BACK" graphics card for around the same price and also have the option for multimonitor support.
 

n7

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I am extremely impressed with this offering ATI has come out with, to be honest.

 

xclusivex

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Just re-read the article.. one thing im not too impressed with is the SATA150.. isnt NF4 going to offer 3gb/s?
 

charloscarlies

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Originally posted by: xclusivex
Just re-read the article.. one thing im not too impressed with is the SATA150.. isnt NF4 going to offer 3gb/s?

Who cares? We're nowhere near using that kind of bandwidth yet. :)
 

FinalFantasy

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Originally posted by: charloscarlies
Originally posted by: xclusivex
Just re-read the article.. one thing im not too impressed with is the SATA150.. isnt NF4 going to offer 3gb/s?

Who cares? We're nowhere near using that kind of bandwidth yet. :)

 

Elcs

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Originally posted by: DrMrLordX
This new chipset seems to have problems with USB performance:

http://techreport.com/reviews/...press200/index.x?pg=17

Or at least it did in this techreport review. Anandtech's review didn't pick up on this little bugaboo. Thoughts?

Manufacturing variances? Testing variances?

Review sites never have half the trouble the community as a whole seems to have when a new product is released. They only get a very small sample which has a possibility of being handpicked.

Quite a lot of problems arent noticed until the product goes public.
 

bim27142

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Originally posted by: Avalon
You can use the add-on card that you obviously already have in conjunction with the IGP. Your add-on will be the primary, and the IGP you can either disable or use to power additional monitors. Plus, if your card ever dies for whatever reason, you'll still be able to use the system if you have no spare video card. What's wrong with this? I think it's excellent.
yeah i'm with you men! having on-board video doesn't suck, especially for ATI's...why?? they have surround view, in which you can use both on-board and discrete ati card...well at least in a little way you can still use your on-board video together with a high end GPU...if you just don't like the performance of on-board video then you could easily get a discrete upgrade...the nice thing is, whether you have a video card or not, your system will still be usable!!
 

bim27142

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Originally posted by: dannybin1742
i'm delaying mine aswell, this board looks super promising 2.813ghz!!!!!!! very nice oc

it does look promising!! ATI may not be that mature in chipset making, but just take a look at this one... didn't ATI's RS350 chipset kicked the ass of Intel 865G? :) IMO, ATI is doing quite pretty well in the chipset industry... things mature in time and i think ATI is on the fast track on achieving that...VIA is an old school chipset maker, but lately, how have they been doing? it's always good to welcome competitors, makes them all struggle for more technological breakthroughs...
 

Gamingphreek

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Remember they were comparing 2 reference chipsets and a top performing Nforce 3 chipset. THerefore i reserve judgement until both the ATI chipset and the Nforce 4 are out in force. Its going to be interesting but it is going to take some time for ATI to really puta dent in Nvidia as Nvidia has made (IMO) the best AMD chipsets for the past, what 3 years. The only bad one was the Nforce 3 150 and that series.

Cmon HD audio!!

-Kevin