ATI's RX480/RS480 Chipset

[ZobarStyl]

If you wanted multimonitor (3 or more) up until now you just grabbed a cheap PCI card and bam you had up to four monitors. The downside was the gaming performance was abysmal because you were pairing a nice AGP card with a crappy PCI card, so you couldn't stretch the game across the monitors. This IGP allowing 3-4 monitors is nice for just desktop usage, but it doesn't solve that issue, since it's slower than a x300SE, which is just a 9200SE, which is ungodly slow. However, nForce4 with dual PCI-E slots offers the chance to actually utilize those monitors for 3D work...you just set it in non-SLI mode, stick two cards and there and use up to four monitors. I've already tried most of my games stretched across my dual screens on a 6800GT, it's rather nice except the middle is the meeting place of the monitors; 3 is the magic number to maintain a usable crosshair. Either way, Doom3 across two screens with a modified FOV is a sight to behold. 😀

 

[FinalFantasy]

Originally posted by: ZobarStyl
If you wanted multimonitor (3 or more) up until now you just grabbed a cheap PCI card and bam you had up to four monitors. The downside was the gaming performance was abysmal because you were pairing a nice AGP card with a crappy PCI card, so you couldn't stretch the game across the monitors. This IGP allowing 3-4 monitors is nice for just desktop usage, but it doesn't solve that issue, since it's slower than a x300SE, which is just a 9200SE, which is ungodly slow. However, nForce4 with dual PCI-E slots offers the chance to actually utilize those monitors for 3D work...you just set it in non-SLI mode, stick two cards and there and use up to four monitors. I've already tried most of my games stretched across my dual screens on a 6800GT, it's rather nice except the middle is the meeting place of the monitors; 3 is the magic number to maintain a usable crosshair. Either way, Doom3 across two screens with a modified FOV is a sight to behold. 😀

While that's true, a lot of everyone can not afford a 6 series nVidia card and at that 2 of them, so that they can have a 3 or 4 monitor display to do ANY kind of work/play/whatever the hell they do on it! I know it sounds like, "What, someone can not afford a 6600? That's ridiculous!", but hey...it's the truth. Like I stated before, where ATI is going to make their money is off of selling OEM boards to 3rd party vendors. Could you imagine what HP is thinking right now, as far as "how they would like to" market such a product (ATI's RX480/RS480 boards), not "how are they going to", but "how they would like to"...there's a big difference in approach and attitude between those two scenarios. This is very simple marketing for someone like, let's say HP, they can use some of the simplist tatics to win over the "average (but majority) consumer". HP can say "Hey consumers! Play today's "big hit" games without spending $200-500 (if you want 3/4 multi-monitor set up that's $400-1000) on "some" high-end graphic card. All you need to do is plug your monitor into your computer and not have to worry about dealing with purchasing any additional parts! And the best thing is...we'll sell you the computer for $500-1000! Wow, isn't that great!!!" 🙂 Consumers LOVE simplicity and efficiency and that's what ATI's solution is all about. All "HP" has to do is buy ONE mobo from ATI, not have to worry about buying additinal graphics cards from someone else, stick the mobo in their boxes, connect everything etc etc etc etc la la la and bam...instant money machine...do you know how much cost and time HP just saved? No...you don't and neither do I...so don't even try to guess. All WE need to know is that "HP" is very happy with ATI's new board and they see nothing but green.

Oh well, either way you go you'll be happy. They are both killer chipsets that offer a lot of ups as opposed to downs and they both perform well.

 

[Childs]

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.

NV has a multi-monitor solution, simply get an SLi board and don't run in SLi mode.

That's not a good solution for someone who is looking for somethingg simple and efficient. If I build a PC for one of the partners in the office I work in and they want a 3 or 4 monitor set up in their house (used for work/light gaming/some DVD playback/Music playback/etc etc), they bill at over $265/hour and time is everything to them, they are not going to want to tinker with "some SLI setting" no matter how simple it may be to turn on/off. Sure it'd be fine for me to take an extra second or two to do this, but for people who are looking to use this for "multimedia" purposes right now ATI has a better solution then nVidia does. BTW...from what I've been hearing/reading/etc etc, ATI's multiple GPU solution does not require you to have "matched" GPU's and SLI does...what's nVidia's answer to that? It's all about ease and efficiency when it comes to mainstream computer buyers...remember, most of these boards are going to 3rd party vendors to resell anyway.

You guys are overthinking this. You don't have to have SLi to have multiple monitors. Just buy another cheap PCI card like a 9200 or 5200, and that with your primary card with give you 4 monitors. Nv doesn't need a solution for this type of scenario, as there has been one in place long before ATI's new chipset.

And from the reviews there is nothing to do in regards to Nv's SLi. Its something you set when you install the cards. If you don't have time to do it then you don't have time to install the card so the whole thing is moot. ATI has no SLI solution until I at the very least read about someone actually implementing it. mainstream computer buys are not going to have SLi anyways, whether its ATI's or Nv's solution.

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
While that's true, a lot of everyone can not afford a 6 series nVidia card and at that 2 of them, so that they can have a 3 or 4 monitor display to do ANY kind of work/play/whatever the hell they do on it! I know it sounds like, "What, someone can not afford a 6600? That's ridiculous!", but hey...it's the truth. Like I stated before, where ATI is going to make their money is off of selling OEM boards to 3rd party vendors. Could you imagine what HP is thinking right now, as far as "how they would like to" market such a product (ATI's RX480/RS480 boards), not "how are they going to", but "how they would like to"...there's a big difference in approach and attitude between those two scenarios. This is very simple marketing for someone like, let's say HP, they can use some of the simplist tatics to win over the "average (but majority) consumer". HP can say "Hey consumers! Play today's "big hit" games without spending $200-500 (if you want 3/4 multi-monitor set up that's $400-1000) on "some" high-end graphic card. All you need to do is plug your monitor into your computer and not have to worry about dealing with purchasing any additional parts! And the best thing is...we'll sell you the computer for $500-1000! Wow, isn't that great!!!" 🙂 Consumers LOVE simplicity and efficiency and that's what ATI's solution is all about. All "HP" has to do is buy ONE mobo from ATI, not have to worry about buying additinal graphics cards from someone else, stick the mobo in their boxes, connect everything etc etc etc etc la la la and bam...instant money machine...do you know how much cost and time HP just saved? No...you don't and neither do I...so don't even try to guess. All WE need to know is that "HP" is very happy with ATI's new board and they see nothing but green.

Oh well, either way you go you'll be happy. They are both killer chipsets that offer a lot of ups as opposed to downs and they both perform well.

You are not required to have to GF6 series cards to put two PCIe gfx cards in an NV SLi board to have 4 monitors. You can also use PCI cards. You are overthinking this way too much. ATI's IGP looks no faster than a $50 PCI video card anyways, so I'm not sure how this is a great disadvantage to NF4. IMO its like getting free SATA cables with your motherboard. Kinda nice, but because of the performance of the IGP and fact that you can get a PCI card cheap this feature is nothing special. MHO of course.

 

[Keysplayr]

Originally posted by: Brian23
It's awesome. M4H, you are just biased. this chipset is PCIe complient, better overclocking than NF4, and it supports SLI. I would buy this over an Nvidia any day.

If you don't own one, I would have to say with the utmost respect, to STFU. No offense. STFU doesn't translate emotion well in text. So: 😛

 

[NewBlackDak]

It looks like it performs decently, but ATI is showing a sickening pattern for not helping the opensource community.

I bet it will never be right in Linux or BSD

 

[FinalFantasy]

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy

Originally posted by: Childs

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
...but don't forget (as state above by jiffylube) ATI's multiple monitor solution does look promising. So far nVidia does not have an answer to ATI's possible "triple" and "quad" monitor set up...SLI only supports up to 2 on a single graphics card.

BTW...only reason I really care about this chipset is because ATI's chipset is a step in the right direction for a potential project that I'm in the stages of developing...that's all.

Edit: Oh yea...and it overclocks like a motherf#$ker also.

NV has a multi-monitor solution, simply get an SLi board and don't run in SLi mode.

That's not a good solution for someone who is looking for somethingg simple and efficient. If I build a PC for one of the partners in the office I work in and they want a 3 or 4 monitor set up in their house (used for work/light gaming/some DVD playback/Music playback/etc etc), they bill at over $265/hour and time is everything to them, they are not going to want to tinker with "some SLI setting" no matter how simple it may be to turn on/off. Sure it'd be fine for me to take an extra second or two to do this, but for people who are looking to use this for "multimedia" purposes right now ATI has a better solution then nVidia does. BTW...from what I've been hearing/reading/etc etc, ATI's multiple GPU solution does not require you to have "matched" GPU's and SLI does...what's nVidia's answer to that? It's all about ease and efficiency when it comes to mainstream computer buyers...remember, most of these boards are going to 3rd party vendors to resell anyway.

You guys are overthinking this. You don't have to have SLi to have multiple monitors. Just buy another cheap PCI card like a 9200 or 5200, and that with your primary card with give you 4 monitors. Nv doesn't need a solution for this type of scenario, as there has been one in place long before ATI's new chipset.

And from the reviews there is nothing to do in regards to Nv's SLi. Its something you set when you install the cards. If you don't have time to do it then you don't have time to install the card so the whole thing is moot. ATI has no SLI solution until I at the very least read about someone actually implementing it. mainstream computer buys are not going to have SLi anyways, whether its ATI's or Nv's solution.

Originally posted by: FinalFantasy
While that's true, a lot of everyone can not afford a 6 series nVidia card and at that 2 of them, so that they can have a 3 or 4 monitor display to do ANY kind of work/play/whatever the hell they do on it! I know it sounds like, "What, someone can not afford a 6600? That's ridiculous!", but hey...it's the truth. Like I stated before, where ATI is going to make their money is off of selling OEM boards to 3rd party vendors. Could you imagine what HP is thinking right now, as far as "how they would like to" market such a product (ATI's RX480/RS480 boards), not "how are they going to", but "how they would like to"...there's a big difference in approach and attitude between those two scenarios. This is very simple marketing for someone like, let's say HP, they can use some of the simplist tatics to win over the "average (but majority) consumer". HP can say "Hey consumers! Play today's "big hit" games without spending $200-500 (if you want 3/4 multi-monitor set up that's $400-1000) on "some" high-end graphic card. All you need to do is plug your monitor into your computer and not have to worry about dealing with purchasing any additional parts! And the best thing is...we'll sell you the computer for $500-1000! Wow, isn't that great!!!" 🙂 Consumers LOVE simplicity and efficiency and that's what ATI's solution is all about. All "HP" has to do is buy ONE mobo from ATI, not have to worry about buying additinal graphics cards from someone else, stick the mobo in their boxes, connect everything etc etc etc etc la la la and bam...instant money machine...do you know how much cost and time HP just saved? No...you don't and neither do I...so don't even try to guess. All WE need to know is that "HP" is very happy with ATI's new board and they see nothing but green.

Oh well, either way you go you'll be happy. They are both killer chipsets that offer a lot of ups as opposed to downs and they both perform well.

You are not required to have to GF6 series cards to put two PCIe gfx cards in an NV SLi board to have 4 monitors. You can also use PCI cards. You are overthinking this way too much. ATI's IGP looks no faster than a $50 PCI video card anyways, so I'm not sure how this is a great disadvantage to NF4. IMO its like getting free SATA cables with your motherboard. Kinda nice, but because of the performance of the IGP and fact that you can get a PCI card cheap this feature is nothing special. MHO of course.

Umm...I guess you kind of missed the point of price/performance/SIMPLICITY ratio.......well if you want to make one up... ;D PCI is gonna be extinct/rare soon anyway.