Originally posted by: LikeLinus
Originally posted by: Woofmeister
Originally posted by: LikeLinus
EDIT: My question was how you "clearly" know that ATI is lying and that it's obvious that ATI doesn't share the views of it's users. That sounds like slander to me.
One more time, it "
seems like ATI is clearly lying" because they changed their website after the story broke, then they were caught making the change and changed it back:
http://images.dailytech.com/nimage/522_large_atipage.png
What other credible explanation is there for changing the website with the GPU specifications?
By the way, a defamatory statement communicated in writing is "libel", only spoken words are "slander." And besides the defense of truth, there's a broad privilege against civil liability afforded to statments of opinion, particularly when those statements are qualified with phrases like "seems like."
Still, that would be funny--ATI suing me for drawing the obvious conclusion from their changing their own website.
There was one change on the webpage (and HDCP ready). The problem is there are several reasons why this could have happened.
The problem is you don't KNOW the reasons without talking to the company or their PR department. It could be anything from an uploaded document that had changes. Maybe one of their techwriters thought it was an error..after checking with the engineering team it turns out there is HDCP compliance. Also, when was that original webpage image taken? There's no date and you didn't take the original. Do you research the evidence before claiming someone guilty? Have you followed up with any of the individuals that Daily Tech has spoken to?
Don't you find it odd that they say "We spoke to ATI and asked it why the terminology difference and what the difference was in its view, between compliance and ready. Unfortunately, we did not receive a sound response to that question." - and they didn't feel the need to provide the quote or speak on what ATI says?
Here's the problem.
"When I go to
http://www.ati.com/products/RadeonX1900/specs.html I see HDCP support listed. Am I supposed to know that the board doesn?t support it because I can go to
http://www.ati.com/products/radeonx1900/radeonx1900xtx/specs.html and see that HDCP is omitted? If that?s the case, am I supposed to know that the board has ?48 shader processors? when it?s only listed in the GPU specifications page?"
The HDCP Ready is ONLY listed on the GPU specs. What does HDCP Ready mean? It means the chip is able to display the resolution when they create cards that support HDCP. Currently NO OS provides HDCP support. The card itself does NOT say HDCP Ready/Compliant. The GPU itself could handle HDCP, but the cards do not.
It's like saying because a car company advertises their navigation system, it should come in every car. Regardless if you look at the stick for the actual car you are buying and it isn't in the car? What sort of dumb logic is that.
You have to research the actual item you are buying, not what it "could" have, but what it does have.
Further more "More AIB partners explained to us that upon the release of Vista, a driver update can be applied to enable HDCP output." Even if that's not the case, it says that you could RMA your card potentially and get a new one when they have boards with support if the driver option isn't viable.
I just think there is more to this than just jump up and sue someone. That's the american money grubbing way. If ATI indeed does not offer support for the HDCP cards, that's one thing. But we won't know till they respond. THEN that's the time to act.
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