You're gonna be playing a lot of unreal 2004... Because the only 64-bit game announced by ANY developer.
You're gonna be playing a lot of unreal 2004... Because the only 64-bit game announced by ANY developer.
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It will only take a few games that are 64bit and a few review bench marks AMD VS Intel to open the eyes of many game developers about the performance of 64bit AMD+ windows64 to get them all scrambling into the performance gains of 64bit gaming ! ... Our RTS games wont slow down as much anymore and the FPS games will be 100% GPU dependent the CPU's wont be stressed out anymore. i cant wait.
You do realize that most applications including games won't gain any benefit from being 64-bit. Very few games need to deal with numbers in excess of 2^32. Also, the increased size of 64 bit values means that a straight 64-bit recompile may make many applications a little slower.
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Are you even a Gamer aka1nas ~ Who cares about aplications....You must play RTS games to understand how 64bit will blow away 32bit anything too boost the performance of 10,000 unites running around the screen is more then welcome to the people who make these games and to the people who try and play them at 5FPS on there BEST OF THE BEST top of the line system yes you heard me right 5FPs on the best computer money can buy. What a joke.
RTS games would even bring down the worlds fastest super computer to its knees ( The earth simulator in Japan) all it would take is the right amount of unites and Bam slow down will happen 64bit will at least help ease the pressure on the CPU of having to calculate 100,000 unites all with individual A.I instructions if u think no benefit will come for you and your programs then fine whatever but I would argue that in this circumstance ive just described I will be seeing a marginal increase in performance.
PS: Not all RST games have unit caps ?. Some RST games let you build unlimited amounts of troops that number could be 1 billion troops if u so wished and DAMNIT I WISH IT !!!! I WISH IT !!
In the end only time will tell and i'm hoping your not right because it doesnt matter how many Mhz a CPU has its not making these games run any better!!!
RTS games would even bring down the worlds fastest super computer to its knees ( The earth simulator in Japan) all it would take is the right amount of unites and Bam slow down will happen 64bit will at least help ease the pressure on the CPU of having to calculate 100,000 unites all with individual A.I instructions if u think no benefit will come for you and your programs then fine whatever but I would argue that in this circumstance ive just described I will be seeing a marginal increase in performance.
PS: Not all RST games have unit caps ?. Some RST games let you build unlimited amounts of troops that number could be 1 billion troops if u so wished and DAMNIT I WISH IT !!!! I WISH IT !!
In the end only time will tell and i'm hoping your not right because it doesnt matter how many Mhz a CPU has its not making these games run any better!!!
Same here...
When socket 939 is out for good i'll flip off this 1.4@2.4
It has been serving me well.
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Wow...
You do realize that the situation you just described has absolutely nothing to do with the jump to 64bit computing, and is mainly if not completely gpu limited and not cpu limited?
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DO you play RTS games? EarthwormJim
I upgraded CPU from a 1800+ Athlon to a 3200+ Athlon and was still running a Geforce4 and i went from 10FPS
too 50FPS in C&C Generals Zero Hour and i can now handle heaps more unites but still not enough so i upgraded my videocard to a GeforceFX5900 and it did nothing !!! i think a faster CPU will give me more unites ! and more FPS then a vid card ...
I upgraded CPU from a 1800+ Athlon to a 3200+ Athlon and was still running a Geforce4 and i went from 10FPS
too 50FPS in C&C Generals Zero Hour and i can now handle heaps more unites but still not enough so i upgraded my videocard to a GeforceFX5900 and it did nothing !!! i think a faster CPU will give me more unites ! and more FPS then a vid card ...
Maybe you were not GPU limited in that particular game with your GF4? Or perhaps you are being bottlenecked by some other component.
It doesn't help that you can have 4 billion units if you don't have enough memory to store the data for them and more importantly, the speed to interface with that much memory fast enough to matter.
I agree with LoganTeamX with everything but one thing. Smart AMD fans and for that matter smart Intel fans will wait intill 2005. 2004 is going to be rather bad, Its sensless to get a AMD 64 when 90mm will be out later this year but next year is when higher speeds will show up. Now onlt that but with DDR2 and PCI express around the corner its all the more reason to wait.
Since many here overclock, many should know that getting Prescott is also bad. Intel is having to max out the voltage on them just to get them to run at high speeds meaning there will be little to no room for overclocking.
Heck Im still running a GeForce3 which plays all my games just find at 1280x1024x32 execpt for Uru but danm the graphics in that game are so good I think it would bring a 5950 or 9800 pro to its kness.
As for the game bringing the fastest super computer to its knees, I dont think so......specs for the Earth sim:
* 5,120 (640 8-way nodes) 500 MHz NEC CPUs
* 8 GFLOPS per CPU (41 TFLOPS total)
* 2 GB (4 512 MB FPLRAM modules) per CPU (10 TB total)
* shared memory inside the node
* 16 GB/s inter-node bandwidth
No game will ever bring 5,120 cpus to there knees and since the whole thing has 10TB of ram, you can just install the game on to a ramdrive. You could run only a 2d card, sim a GF 5950 and it will more the likely still run the game so fast that it be unplayable.
EDIT:
Just saw this and had to post it. The 6th fastest computer in the world is based on AMD's Opteron chip.
Aslo, out of the top 10 fastest all but the new Earth sim are located in the US
Since many here overclock, many should know that getting Prescott is also bad. Intel is having to max out the voltage on them just to get them to run at high speeds meaning there will be little to no room for overclocking.
Heck Im still running a GeForce3 which plays all my games just find at 1280x1024x32 execpt for Uru but danm the graphics in that game are so good I think it would bring a 5950 or 9800 pro to its kness.
As for the game bringing the fastest super computer to its knees, I dont think so......specs for the Earth sim:
* 5,120 (640 8-way nodes) 500 MHz NEC CPUs
* 8 GFLOPS per CPU (41 TFLOPS total)
* 2 GB (4 512 MB FPLRAM modules) per CPU (10 TB total)
* shared memory inside the node
* 16 GB/s inter-node bandwidth
No game will ever bring 5,120 cpus to there knees and since the whole thing has 10TB of ram, you can just install the game on to a ramdrive. You could run only a 2d card, sim a GF 5950 and it will more the likely still run the game so fast that it be unplayable.
EDIT:
Just saw this and had to post it. The 6th fastest computer in the world is based on AMD's Opteron chip.
Aslo, out of the top 10 fastest all but the new Earth sim are located in the US
Soulkeeper
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that's a nice system and all but it would cost you more than most cars if you were to buy it this year
but yeah i couldn't wait for 1gb of fast ddr1 memory let alone 1gb of fast ddr2 memory
i can't imagine 1.6ghz graphics memory ahahaha
but yeah i couldn't wait for 1gb of fast ddr1 memory let alone 1gb of fast ddr2 memory
i can't imagine 1.6ghz graphics memory ahahaha
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