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Athlon XP 2000+ vs Celeron 1.7 GHz

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Forgot to mention... ECS isn't the best brand for motherboards....
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I'll go one step further and say that ECS (and all other flaky motherboard manufacturers) blows chunks. Yes it might sound harsh but nothing is more harsh than buying a piece of junk el-cheapo motherboard and having your entire system fall flat on its face.

The motherboard is one of the most important components of a system so stick to larger well-known companies, even if it costs more. Having a stable system over an unstable system is worth infinitely more than the few dollars you might have saved.
 
In my opinion, I don't think getting a cheap motherboard is always a wise choice. I have seen people go the cheap route and well, sometimes you get what you pay for. I have always went a speed back than I wanted so that I could get a quality motherboard (quality for me is fairly fast, yet stable) with quality components. One reason I went for this KT400-based chipset was because I had found they were made of quality components, and I don't want to have something bad happen like a leaky capacitor. I would have gone for an nForce2 at the time, but they were $150 and I am a college student 😛.
 
Ironically, my first-generation K7S5A is still going strong and has outlived an EPoX 8RDA+ nForce2 board that simply stopped working after a while. It also outperformed my Asus A7V333-RAID in real-life usage with a PCI SCSI card, and outlived the A7V333-RAID as well (although its demise was arguably partly my fault).

It's interesting to see how a mention of the K7S5A always brings out very opposite remarks, with some people swearing by them, and some people swearing at them. 😉 I've only got a sample of one, so I can't say how large numbers of them have fared for me, but if you want a board that I can say that about, then get an Asus A7N266-VM. I now have what, 25 of them in my fleet? and two at home. They aren't an overclockable board, unless you want to do some surgery on them, but for troublefree operation with Win2k or WinXP, they're good boards.
 
Well obviously you are excluding me from those that "swear at them" 😛. Since it is evident that I left my explanation open to being a motherboard from any manufacturer. ECS isn't really horrible in my opinion. I have known someone who had serious issues with an ECS motherboard but so many OEMs use their boards...and last I heard, they output more motherboard than ASUS and most others. I have known someone who recently had TWO abit motherboards with leaky capacitors too. Just goes to show that a 'crappy' board can come from anyone, big or small and from any price range.
 
😀 I have two XP2000+ PC's. One air cooled at stock speed, the other water and peltier cooled and running at 1925 Mhz. If you play games, I'd suggest getting the XP2000+. I believe the Celerons have a smaller cache than the Athlon and you will be disapointed with a Celerons performance. :beer:
 
DWW, since you said one of your tasks for this computer will be games, the XP.

Booster - Maybe I misread, but it sounded like you bought a new motherboard and CPU (or redid whole computer) and made it slower to avoid paying $30 for a heatsink? I'm in awe, either of your quirks or my misunderstanding of what you meant.

That said, I'm using an $8 heatsink from SVC on my 1600+. Came with a 40cfm 60mm, undervolted it to 5v, purrs ever so quiet and keeps the CPU nice and stable. Cold? No. Cool? Questionable. Stable, useful and within spec? Yes. Gets up to the 50's under extended (hours) load...big whoop. Quieter than the Sanyo retail fan that came with my Celeron 300A and the computer works fine. Maybe not a typical example, but a lot of the "problem" with AMD on the noise front is people get so used to overclockers in agony because their CPU gets unstable at 41C that the mistaken impression gets formed that all AMD's need to be in the low 40's or they'll crash. Has happened to me - heck, that same 1600+ had a $34 Alpha 8045 on it before because I was leery of letting it run in the high 40's or 50's with a quiet fan on a smaller sink.
 
xp2000+ > celeron

def. go with the AMD setup, i'd never buy a celeron...

I'm running an K7S5A, actually i like it better than Asus/MSI boards i've had in the past, havent had ANY problems, i have it paired with only a XP1600+ and im sure i'd eat that celeron for breakfast. I believe that the board is about the same level as a KT266A chipset, kinda old, but not THAT slow. Anywho, i'd def. go with the AMD way, unless you find $$$ for a p4.
 
this thread reminds me of the benchies on THG that showed the celeron 2.0 GHz overclocked to 3.0 GHz and still getting spanked by the Athlon XP 1600+
 
Originally posted by: bgeh
this thread reminds me of the benchies on THG that showed the celeron 2.0 GHz overclocked to 3.0 GHz and still getting spanked by the Athlon XP 1600+
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Only in games though. In everything ELSE it came out on top! So it really depends what your needs are....
 
Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: bgeh
this thread reminds me of the benchies on THG that showed the celeron 2.0 GHz overclocked to 3.0 GHz and still getting spanked by the Athlon XP 1600+
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Only in games though. In everything ELSE it came out on top! So it really depends what your needs are....
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half the benches where games
anyway, he wants to use pc133, which imo, will hurt the celeron's performance more than it will hurt the athlon xp's performance
 
Geez...I can't believe there's this many comments about this question. It's pretty cut and dry. Although, I do see a lot of posts about the ECS motherboard. Wow, you never know what the hot topic will be. That being said, I'd take an Athlon XP 2000+ over a P4 1.7Ghz so that oughtta tell you my choice 😉

P-X
 
Originally posted by: bluemax
Originally posted by: bgeh
this thread reminds me of the benchies on THG that showed the celeron 2.0 GHz overclocked to 3.0 GHz and still getting spanked by the Athlon XP 1600+
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Only in games though. In everything ELSE it came out on top! So it really depends what your needs are....
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The old "K6-2 Defence"! 😀
 
AT and THG had the Celery overclocked to near 3ghz and it couldn't keep up with a Athlon XP1600.



It doesn't take a genius to figure this one out.🙂
 
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