kitkat22
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And again the point can be brought up about motherboard, etc, etc. In all respects I think we are looking at similar pricepoints compared to both high end processors, ie the 840 and 4800. I won't say exact because that is ludicrous, but they are similar. Taking a look at the reason why each company has done what they did is point that may need considering. AMD wants to get their chips out, especially at a price where they can make a profit. They can't get money any other way. The reason they did this is to make it easier for existing customers to upgrade; granted at a price. Intel makes the chip and the chipset. They are making money off of seperate entities and they will make bank on the fact that people are now required to buy another motherboard, memory, etc. There are two different philosphies existing here; whether one performs better than the other is entirely a matter of time. I hope AMD made the right move by starting with the business sector.
Will the Pentium D use only DDR2 memory? I had not heard that. Even if true, though, DDR2 prices are ever-falling. They may be interchangable with DDR prices very soon.
It has higher latency, but DDR2 memory's faster clock more than makes up for that. IT is not "inferior."
Look at the benchmarks at THG. When multitasking, the Pentium D 820 out-performs the Athlon 64 3500+. I'm not saying that the Pentium D is the best choice for everyone, but, when the Pentium D hits the market, AMD will no longer have clear gaming superiority in the $200-$600 range.
I am pretty sure it will only use DDR2 and most people don't have DDR2 memory. Almost everyone owns DDR memory though. And the X2 can be plugged into any socket 939 board. So hence the only cost will be that of the cpu for many many users. I am using an Intel P4 right now and will be building a new box soon and I just can't see going Intel on any front. Its really a tough sell right now.
I think if you give the market a few months to settle out, AMD will still come out ahead as the price/performance winner, at least for gamers. For the moment, it's silly to argue about which one is better, because for the most part YOU CAN'T BUY DUAL CORE ATHLON PROCESSORS. Until they drop in price and have more in quantity, they should charge a premium. Why not make a little more profit on the early adopters? In the end it will just help make everything cheaper for the normal upgraders out there.
<-- Wants dual-core Athlon!
<-- Wants dual-core Athlon!
Googer
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It is already well known that AMD64 Athlon X2 will use DDR1. But AMD Has plans for the future and Rumor has it that the next Athlon 64 Socket will have 1200 or more pins and will feature DDR1 and DDR2 capability.
It is also Part of the JDEC DDR2 spec (last time I read it) that DDR2 memory controllers maintain backward compatabilty with DDR1. Eat that INTEL!
That's what I wonder. Monarch doesn't think they can ship until the 16th, but some of the little heard of smaller stores claim to have an ETA of the 7th. What gives?
I'm glad I got my Sempron. Should last me a year or two, then I'll get an M2 dualcore with Longhorn and I'll be all set.
I wont be getting one until they go down in price i am a gamer so it wont make a gaming performance better but multi-tasking yes 
I'm still not entirely sure I want to get an X2 this summer (vs. a "cheaper" Athlon 64). Whatever I do though, my Athlon XP is getting a bit long in the tooth so I need something
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i was thinking on that too. how many people have skt 939 and 775 boards anyway?
at any rate, the intels will do very well because of dell obviously and the are priced well.
i'll get the x2 at some point, maybe sooner than later as i have the 939 board anyway.
Yes, if you are happy with the performance of a single core P4 2.8GHz processor in gaming, a Pentium D (2.8GHz - dual core) CPU is perfect for you. Like I said, it is priced where it should be, a mid level CPU. But IMO, a 2.8GHz P4 is at the lower end of the mid range CPU category for gaming. The facts are, if you want all around high performance, you get the X2 chip. End of story.
I've always bought a CPU and mobo together. And anyway if I wait till the M2, I'd need a new mobo regardless.
It's not the "end of story" at all. There are no absolutes, here, and to think otherwise would be disingenuous at best.
As for gaming, AMD is probably a better choice for most. However, if you're the type of person that likes to run other applications while you game, the Pentium D 820 is a wonderful option. That's what I meant when I said that AMD may no longer be the clear choice for gaming.
On the other hand, I had forgotten that dual-core Pentiums are going to require a new breed of motherboard, and perhaps DDR2 memory, to boot. It is possible that the cost incurred by those components tip the scales back in AMD's favor. We'll just have to wait and see.
But if you go by CPU prices, the 820-3500 connection weighs pretty heavily in Intel's favor.
If I go dual core this year, I'll probably go Pentium D simply for the cost. I will probably just wait around until the M2 though. My 3815+ performing 3500+ is good enough for now.
Please, go back and read my post again. And yes there are absolutes, here. The X2 chips are king (vs Intel's offerings). They do EVERYTHING well and power consumption is amazingly low. The only negative side is the price. But like I said, if you want a chip that can do everything extremely well, you'll have to pay for it. If you are a budget conscious consumer and are satisfied with a chip that can do some tasks so-so (gaming), but can multitask well, the Pentium D chip is the chip for you. I don't like to sacrifice performance in ANY area, that is why the X2 (4600+ or 4800+) is the only chip I'm looking at. Like I said, I consider the Pentium D a mid level processor and it is priced accordingly. End of story.
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