ATHLON 64 x2 3600 AM2 Brisbane OEM $59 shipped

[qliveur]

Has anyone interested in this deal checked out this nForce 590 SLI motherboard, also at the Egg for $99.99 AR? There is a promo code available somewhere for free shipping on this board and this 2GB memory kit would bring the total cost of the upgrade to $270.00 shipped + the cost of whatever HSF you choose. Not too shabby for an upgradeable (K8L), SLI-capable setup, IMHO.

EDIT: Read the above link and it looks like AMD is dropping its drawers on the 9th before the Intel price drops take effect on the 22nd. We can probably expect the price on this chip to drop another $10.00-$15.00.

 

[timxpx]

am i right in assuming that brisbane > windsor?

 

[isekii]

what's the benefit of having dual gigabit lan on the evga motherboard ??

 

[Extelleron]

Originally posted by: timxpx
am i right in assuming that brisbane > windsor?

Actually, technically at the same clockspeed the Brisbane will be slightly slower because of having a higher latency L2 cache.

 

[s44]

Originally posted by: Extelleron

Originally posted by: timxpx
am i right in assuming that brisbane > windsor?

Actually, technically at the same clockspeed the Brisbane will be slightly slower because of having a higher latency L2 cache.

But Brisbane seems to have a better overclock ceiling.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Originally posted by: astrosfan315
No game is out right now that I can't handle with ease with my single core.

Of course, "handle with ease" is subjective but did HardOCP have a recent article on single, dual and quad core performance in Supreme Commader?

 

[spittledip]

That Arctic Cooler that was posted about in this thread can be had for 5.99 @ SVC

 

[isekii]

How much more do you think the price is gonna drop on this CPU ?

 

[isekii]

Bah ended up ordering a BioStar T550 Open Box for 49.99 and the CPU for 65 bucks.

114.99 shipped

 

[XNice]

Originally posted by: WhoBeDaPlaya

Originally posted by: astrosfan315
No game is out right now that I can't handle with ease with my single core.

Of course, "handle with ease" is subjective but did HardOCP have a recent article on single, dual and quad core performance in Supreme Commader?

They did and I read it also. It seemed to me that Supreme Commander is coded like crap. They were running an 8800GTX with a single core and got horrible performance. I don't care if multicore is the wave of the future, there is no way that you should release a game now that can't run good at all with a single core cpu, especially when coupled with an 8800GTX.

I'm waiting for the 939 prices to drop a bit more then splurge on a X2 4600 or something.

 

[dafoomie]

Originally posted by: Extelleron
Will an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro work with it and do I need anything new? I have an ACF 64 Pro that I'm running on a 939 system right now.... do I need anything special (besides new thermal paste) to run it on an AM2 motherboard?

I'm using a Freezer 64 Pro on this chip right now, with a Tforce 550 board. I've only had time to play with it today, but I got it up to 2.6GHZ at stock voltage, the motherboard seems to be the limiting factor as it won't post with an FSB above 280, I have it at 276 now. CPU temp tops out at 50-51 under Prime 95, core temp around 34-35, but the room is a little warm right now.

 

[bruceyg]

the board is 300Mhz capable, your ram might be the limitation.

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: Extelleron
Will an Arctic Cooling Freezer 64 Pro work with it and do I need anything new? I have an ACF 64 Pro that I'm running on a 939 system right now.... do I need anything special (besides new thermal paste) to run it on an AM2 motherboard?

I'm using a Freezer 64 Pro on this chip right now, with a Tforce 550 board. I've only had time to play with it today, but I got it up to 2.6GHZ at stock voltage, the motherboard seems to be the limiting factor as it won't post with an FSB above 280, I have it at 276 now. CPU temp tops out at 50-51 under Prime 95, core temp around 34-35, but the room is a little warm right now.

 

[dafoomie]

Originally posted by: bruceyg
the board is 300Mhz capable, your ram might be the limitation.

I know the board generally is, but this particular board has had its problems. Probably worth investigating, though. I did lower the HT multiplier and I raised the voltage slightly.

I was under the impression that ram would not be a limiting factor if HT was kept low enough.

 

[Univac]

Originally posted by: isekii
Bah ended up ordering a BioStar T550 Open Box for 49.99 and the CPU for 65 bucks.

114.99 shipped

I am going to buy the same set up this week. (want to wait to see if anything changes after the 9th)

So please post your results.

( I'm reading conflicting reports on the tforce board...?)

 

[metalmania]

What about the video card then? If I want to play FEAR and STALKER at 1680x1050 smoothly?

Thanks.

 

[bruceyg]

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: bruceyg
the board is 300Mhz capable, your ram might be the limitation.

I know the board generally is, but this particular board has had its problems. Probably worth investigating, though. I did lower the HT multiplier and I raised the voltage slightly.

I was under the impression that ram would not be a limiting factor if HT was kept low enough.

Lowering HT multiplier has nothing to do with ocing the ram, whenever you increase your HTT( 200Mhz stock) you are still ocing your ram, there are 533,667and 800 dividers for tforce550. Your rams are not high performance rams, even if you set them at 533mhz, you might have to losen the timing to oc the rams.
1.The key is the mem setting.
2. HT should be <=1000mhz, if >1100mhz not stable anymore
3. disable cool&quiet, HT and CPU spectrum in bios.

 

[dafoomie]

Originally posted by: bruceyg
Lowering HT multiplier has nothing to do with ocing the ram, whenever you increase your HTT( 200Mhz stock) you are still ocing your ram, there are 533,667and 800 dividers for tforce550. Your rams are not high performance rams, even if you set them at 533mhz, you might have to losen the timing to oc the rams.
1.The key is the mem setting.
2. HT should be <=1000mhz, if >1100mhz not stable anymore
3. disable cool&quiet, HT and CPU spectrum in bios.

I've done all those things except touch the RAM timings. The divider is set at 400, won't let me boot at 533 or higher right now.

Is there a way I can find out for sure besides having better ram on hand? This ram could be an expensive mistake.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: bruceyg
Lowering HT multiplier has nothing to do with ocing the ram, whenever you increase your HTT( 200Mhz stock) you are still ocing your ram, there are 533,667and 800 dividers for tforce550. Your rams are not high performance rams, even if you set them at 533mhz, you might have to losen the timing to oc the rams.
1.The key is the mem setting.
2. HT should be <=1000mhz, if >1100mhz not stable anymore
3. disable cool&quiet, HT and CPU spectrum in bios.

I've done all those things except touch the RAM timings. The divider is set at 400, won't let me boot at 533 or higher right now.

Is there a way I can find out for sure besides having better ram on hand? This ram could be an expensive mistake.

I would hardly call super talents an expensive mistake.
What did it cost you ? 125 bucks at the most ?

Why not try the Patriots from Fry's ? If that works out better sell the Super Talents.

 

[dafoomie]

Originally posted by: isekiiI would hardly call super talents an expensive mistake.
What did it cost you ? 125 bucks at the most ?

Why not try the Patriots from Fry's ? If that works out better sell the Super Talents.

I hear those Patriots aren't bad, but I'm probably going to take a bath on those Super Talent sticks if I replace them. Plus, it would really suck if the problem turned out to be the board. On top of that, the board does not let you go past 2.1v on the ram, don't know if thats an issue or not.

If I can be positive that the ram is the problem, I'll probably go for those Patriot sticks.

 

[isekii]

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: isekiiI would hardly call super talents an expensive mistake.
What did it cost you ? 125 bucks at the most ?

Why not try the Patriots from Fry's ? If that works out better sell the Super Talents.

I hear those Patriots aren't bad, but I'm probably going to take a bath on those Super Talent sticks if I replace them. Plus, it would really suck if the problem turned out to be the board. On top of that, the board does not let you go past 2.1v on the ram, don't know if thats an issue or not.

If I can be positive that the ram is the problem, I'll probably go for those Patriot sticks.

Well i'm expecting my parts next week.

And I also ordered a set of Patriots just incase the super talents don't oc so well.

My setup will be

x2 3600+ brisbane
Biostar T550
Super Talent 2 x 1gb 667 or Patriot 2 x 1gb 667 or both together, if I can
get great oc with both in the setup.

 

[bruceyg]

I did the same and set the divider at 400mhz, it won't post at all after I increased the HTT to 295mhz, because my OCZ667 ram relucatant to run at 295/200x400=590mhz 3-x-x-x, the mb set the cas of ram at 3 automaticly you have to adjust the timing manually. I changed the divder to 533mhz(cas 4) and HTT=295Mhz, boots fine, cpu runs rock stable at 2.8ghz @1.35v ram at 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2T 1.9v.
I think you need to loosen the timing of your ram, or you won't get good oc result. Cas 5 is probably ok for supper talent 667 at 800mhz,.

 

[dafoomie]

Originally posted by: bruceyg
I did the same and set the divider at 400mhz, it won't post at all after I increased the HTT to 295mhz, because my OCZ667 ram relucatant to run at 295/200x400=590mhz 3-x-x-x, the mb set the cas of ram at 3 automaticly you have to adjust the timing manually. I changed the divder to 533mhz(cas 4) and HTT=295Mhz, boots fine, cpu runs rock stable at 2.8ghz @1.35v ram at 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2T 1.9v.
I think you need to loosen the timing of your ram, or you won't get good oc result. Cas 5 is probably ok for supper talent 667 at 800mhz,.

I'm not real sure how to do that on this board, but I'll give it a try. It'll probably seem easier once I'm looking at the bios screen.

 

[bruceyg]

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: bruceyg
I did the same and set the divider at 400mhz, it won't post at all after I increased the HTT to 295mhz, because my OCZ667 ram relucatant to run at 295/200x400=590mhz 3-x-x-x, the mb set the cas of ram at 3 automaticly you have to adjust the timing manually. I changed the divder to 533mhz(cas 4) and HTT=295Mhz, boots fine, cpu runs rock stable at 2.8ghz @1.35v ram at 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2T 1.9v.
I think you need to loosen the timing of your ram, or you won't get good oc result. Cas 5 is probably ok for supper talent 667 at 800mhz,.

I'm not real sure how to do that on this board, but I'll give it a try. It'll probably seem easier once I'm looking at the bios screen.

set your mem divider at 533mhz, ajust the timing to 5-5-5-15 2t....

 

[IEC]

Originally posted by: bruceyg

Originally posted by: dafoomie

Originally posted by: bruceyg
I did the same and set the divider at 400mhz, it won't post at all after I increased the HTT to 295mhz, because my OCZ667 ram relucatant to run at 295/200x400=590mhz 3-x-x-x, the mb set the cas of ram at 3 automaticly you have to adjust the timing manually. I changed the divder to 533mhz(cas 4) and HTT=295Mhz, boots fine, cpu runs rock stable at 2.8ghz @1.35v ram at 800mhz 4-4-4-12 2T 1.9v.
I think you need to loosen the timing of your ram, or you won't get good oc result. Cas 5 is probably ok for supper talent 667 at 800mhz,.

I'm not real sure how to do that on this board, but I'll give it a try. It'll probably seem easier once I'm looking at the bios screen.

set your mem divider at 533mhz, ajust the timing to 5-5-5-15 2t....

Yup, then with the ST RAM you should be good to 800-1000MHz depending on the batch. I can get >900MHz @ 2.0V at CAS5.

 

[dafoomie]

I tried the memory settings, boots fine. When I run Prime 95 for a few minutes, there seems to be a problem with the video. The monitor turns on and off, windows don't display properly, and a box appeared that said the display driver was not responding. Vista says the errors are with the video hardware.

Could this be related to the memory settings, or is my video card just bad?