Athlon 64 vs. Athlon XP

bluewall21

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Which would you build, a Shuttle with a 2500+, a o/c tower with a 2500+, or a Athlon 64 3000+ tower? At around $1000-$1200 including $90 OS and $100 monitor.
 

DaveSimmons

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Depends on the use of course. If it's to surf the web an XP 2500+ is fine, for Doom3 you want the A64 and a 9800 pro.
 

Lyfer

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Athlon 64 3000 + Aopen AK86 board + 1GB Mushkin PC4000 = Pure bliss.:D


BTW A64 hands down!
 

Markfw

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Cheack my sig. Unless you are broke, there's no reason not to spend the extra $100
 

Dman877

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If you plan to OC a mobile barton@2.4 - 2.5 will be roughly equivalent to an A64 3000 or 3200 at stock speeds for much less money. At stock speeds, the A64 owns the xp in every way but it doesn't oc well atm cuz no chipsets support agp lock yet. In a few months, there will be nforce 250 boards, via k8t800 pro boards, and new A64's with more pins and some minor improvements. Just a heads up.
 

Lyfer

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Originally posted by: Dman877
If you plan to OC a mobile barton@2.4 - 2.5 will be roughly equivalent to an A64 3000 or 3200 at stock speeds for much less money. At stock speeds, the A64 owns the xp in every way but it doesn't oc well atm cuz no chipsets support agp lock yet. In a few months, there will be nforce 250 boards, via k8t800 pro boards, and new A64's with more pins and some minor improvements. Just a heads up.

The Aopen AK86-L in Anand's recent motherboard guide has an "unofficial" pci/agp lock. (Plus multiplier adjustments from 4x-10x)
 

Xenon14

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3000+ is a kick ass deal... so is the 2500+. If you have a bit more money, 3000+ is the way to go.
 

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Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Depends on the use of course. If it's to surf the web an XP 2500+ is fine, for Doom3 you want the A64 and a 9800 pro.

no for doom3 you want the A64 and the FX5950
 

DaveSimmons

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Originally posted by: virtualgames0
Originally posted by: DaveSimmons
Depends on the use of course. If it's to surf the web an XP 2500+ is fine, for Doom3 you want the A64 and a 9800 pro.

no for doom3 you want the A64 and the FX5950
Not with the 9800 Pro selling for $200. The 5950 ridiculously overpriced by comparison, the P4 Emergency Edition of videocards.
 

kd2777

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I bought this system from Newegg yesterday, and hopfully it will do me a few years.

Shuttle SN45G XPC / Nforce ultra 400 w/o Video ? Silver 226.99
AMD Mobile Athlon xp 2500+ 95.00
Mushkin 1 GB pc-3500 RAM 228.00
NEC DVD+/-RW ND-2500A with software ? Silver 103.00
Alps floppy ? silver 11.99
Seagate 120GB HDD 93.00
ATI RADEON 9800PRO 128M 210.50


Total ? (0.00 shipping) 968.48

still room left in the budget for your monitor and OS. If you didn't need the burner, you could spurdge for xp pro and a better monitor.
 

bluewall21

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Cool, ill probably wait until Athlon 64 prices come down a bit because i want lots of RAM (and possibly Newcastle):p
 

KillaKilla

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Ba-humbug!

I would have to disagree with AT here... I say wait till the Socket T and socket 939 come out, hopefully that will drive down prices, or even open up an opportunity for getting one of those...

*ducks behind riot shield*
 

MRamius

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Actually, according to anandtech you'd be better off with pretty much any GeForce FX for Doom 3 than a 9800pro.

Um, that preview is almost a year old, and was done with an unoptimized pre-beta version of the engine. Oh, and the test was sponsored by NVidia, so 'nuff said I believe.

Note: I'm not saying that the results will be significantly different when the game finally ships, as only Carmack knows the answer to that one, but using an ancient preview to make a point is kinda pathetic IMO. :D
 

newb54

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Originally posted by: Lyfer
Originally posted by: Dman877
If you plan to OC a mobile barton@2.4 - 2.5 will be roughly equivalent to an A64 3000 or 3200 at stock speeds for much less money. At stock speeds, the A64 owns the xp in every way but it doesn't oc well atm cuz no chipsets support agp lock yet. In a few months, there will be nforce 250 boards, via k8t800 pro boards, and new A64's with more pins and some minor improvements. Just a heads up.

The Aopen AK86-L in Anand's recent motherboard guide has an "unofficial" pci/agp lock. (Plus multiplier adjustments from 4x-10x)

AK86-L does not have pci or agp lock. Don't buy this board if you want a high OC.
 

Lyfer

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Originally posted by: newb54
Originally posted by: Lyfer
Originally posted by: Dman877
If you plan to OC a mobile barton@2.4 - 2.5 will be roughly equivalent to an A64 3000 or 3200 at stock speeds for much less money. At stock speeds, the A64 owns the xp in every way but it doesn't oc well atm cuz no chipsets support agp lock yet. In a few months, there will be nforce 250 boards, via k8t800 pro boards, and new A64's with more pins and some minor improvements. Just a heads up.

The Aopen AK86-L in Anand's recent motherboard guide has an "unofficial" pci/agp lock. (Plus multiplier adjustments from 4x-10x)

AK86-L does not have pci or agp lock. Don't buy this board if you want a high OC.


No it doesn't, but it does have PCI/AGP dividers so that you can attain the proper PCI/AGP speeds.:)