Athiests that don't believe in God

[AMDZen]

More evidence than none at all? And if you have evidence of a transcendental "soul" then please share immediately....

The term soul as christians describe it isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the human mind and what it's capable of.

The phenomena we CALL "Ghosts" could be real. If you see this phenomena manifest itself, you have to wonder what it is. It can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. What more "proof" would one want?

The "spirits of the dead" thing is just the traditional "folk explanation" or superstition about it attesting to how long the phenomena has been observed. Do not confuse or define the phenomena in terms of the superstitions associated with it - as too many people do. The likely truth is that what we call "ghosts" (note that I use a qualified statement) may be due to some phenomena related to modern Physics, such as a natural Einstein-Rosen "Bridge" (wormholes) or sporadic interactions between parallel universes.

Bottom line is that I've seen and felt and heard things I cannot explain. Many have. What it is I don't know. Modern science doesn't know. But I believe in lots of things. Like I said already, aliens for one - multiple universe's for another. There is just too much theoretical evidence of the phenomenon of the human "spirit" to say that our persona can't be imprinted on reality

 

[justoh]

People who claim to have "witnessed paranormal activity" probably are either lying or under a misapprehension, OBVIOUSLY. Christ, some of you so-called atheists/agnostics may as well be religious, as it's obvious you haven't grasped the point. No evidence for gods, leprechauns (as has previously been pointed out), and, by its very nature, obviously not "paranormal" activity or any meaningfully descriptive common sense definition of the word "soul" - and certainly not the (also obviously) intended meaning (judeo-christian).

 

[AMDZen]

idiot response

You've proved many times that your brain isn't capable of thought on a level any more than a 5 year old, so I wouldn't expect my thoughts to be conveyed or understood by someone such as yourself.

 

[AMDZen]

People who claim to have "witnessed paranormal activity" probably are either lying or under a misapprehension, OBVIOUSLY.

If you haven't experienced it yourself, you would say that. Thats why a lot of people keep it to themselves. I have an open mind, you obviously do not. OBVIOUSLY

 

[Retro Rob]

I dont.

Thanks, neither do I.

I guess it's too easy to answer this...since when did answering a fairly simple question become a debate based on whether or not its valid to ask atheists generally speaking?

They seem so scared of the words "group" and "belief" to where they run circles around a simple yes or no answer.

The question wasn't loaded.

 

[soulcougher73]

The term soul as christians describe it isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the human mind and what it's capable of.

The phenomena we CALL "Ghosts" could be real. If you see this phenomena manifest itself, you have to wonder what it is. It can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. What more "proof" would one want?

The "spirits of the dead" thing is just the traditional "folk explanation" or superstition about it attesting to how long the phenomena has been observed. Do not confuse or define the phenomena in terms of the superstitions associated with it - as too many people do. The likely truth is that what we call "ghosts" (note that I use a qualified statement) may be due to some phenomena related to modern Physics, such as a natural Einstein-Rosen "Bridge" (wormholes) or sporadic interactions between parallel universes.

Bottom line is that I've seen and felt and heard things I cannot explain. Many have. What it is I don't know. Modern science doesn't know. But I believe in lots of things. Like I said already, aliens for one - multiple universe's for another. There is just too much theoretical evidence of the phenomenon of the human "spirit" to say that our persona can't be imprinted on reality

Sometimes i wonder if people who say they see things have chemical imbalances in the brain which makes them see or hear things that do not exist.

 

[zinfamous]

I figure I'll have plenty of time to figure out all this shit when I'm dead.

 

[AMDZen]

People who claim to have "witnessed paranormal activity" probably are either lying or under a misapprehension, OBVIOUSLY. Christ, some of you so-called atheists/agnostics may as well be religious, as it's obvious you haven't grasped the point. No evidence for gods, leprechauns (as has previously been pointed out), and, by its very nature, obviously not "paranormal" activity or any meaningfully descriptive common sense definition of the word "soul" - and certainly not the (also obviously) intended meaning (judeo-christian).

You're basing your whole argument against what I'm trying to convey on that fact that I believe the "soul" is what the judeo-christian explanation of it is. I do not.

The soul, spirit, whatever you want to call it - as it relates to part of the human psyche is what I am talking about. Pure science.

 

[KeithTalent]

I don't consider myself an atheist, but this soul stuff sounds like a load of hooey. Just like ghosts or any of that other crap.

KT

 

[Paul98]

The term soul as christians describe it isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the human mind and what it's capable of.

The phenomena we CALL "Ghosts" could be real. If you see this phenomena manifest itself, you have to wonder what it is. It can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. What more "proof" would one want?

The "spirits of the dead" thing is just the traditional "folk explanation" or superstition about it attesting to how long the phenomena has been observed. Do not confuse or define the phenomena in terms of the superstitions associated with it - as too many people do. The likely truth is that what we call "ghosts" (note that I use a qualified statement) may be due to some phenomena related to modern Physics, such as a natural Einstein-Rosen "Bridge" (wormholes) or sporadic interactions between parallel universes.

Bottom line is that I've seen and felt and heard things I cannot explain. Many have. What it is I don't know. Modern science doesn't know. But I believe in lots of things. Like I said already, aliens for one - multiple universe's for another. There is just too much theoretical evidence of the phenomenon of the human "spirit" to say that our persona can't be imprinted on reality

You clearly don't now much about physics, the stuff you are saying is supported by science is ridiculous. People see lots of things or at least think they do. Your brain is stupid easy to trick, and memory isn't a video camera what you remember may be nothing like what happened. Even if you remember something happening correctly at first it's easy for that to change.

 

[AMDZen]

Sometimes i wonder if people who say they see things have chemical imbalances in the brain which makes them see or hear things that do not exist.

Again, if it can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. How do you explain it then? The power of the human mind has not even began to be understood by modern science, not even close.

 

[Paul98]

You're basing your whole argument against what I'm trying to convey on that fact that I believe the "soul" is what the judeo-christian explanation of it is. I do not.

The soul, spirit, whatever you want to call it - as it relates to part of the human psyche is what I am talking about. Pure science.

LOL pure science? what are you even talking about some sort of magical thing that is part of you?

 

[mistercrabby]

'Athiests that don't believe in God'

what other kind is there?

+1

 

[Murloc]

The soul is rather who you are. Your mind and conscientiousness. Represents everything you are. It dies when your body does

I agree with this.

Without the brain, there's nothing imho.

 

[AMDZen]

LOL pure science? what are you even talking about some sort of magical thing that is part of you?

“Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.”

― Arthur C. Clarke

 

[SlitheryDee]

I doubt it. It's just an idea someone came up with because they thought it would be nice if it were true. There's no way to test for it. No one has ever had any real reason to think that it exists other than that it made them feel good to believe so.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Again, if it can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. How do you explain it then? The power of the human mind has not even began to be understood by modern science, not even close.

The problem is it can't. Many good scientists have researched paranormal activities and none have ever come back with what would be considered even minimally convincing evidence that would suggest that more research is warranted. That is a pretty low bar to jump over, and despite tens of thousands of tries by both experienced observers and amature sluths, nothing has ever been found.

I'm sorry to tell you this but those TV shows are faked.

 

[Paul98]

“Magic's just science that we don't understand yet.”

― Arthur C. Clarke

LOL, maybe you should understand anything about science before you bring about stupid quotes.

 

[SMOGZINN]

Which is actually irrefutable because energy is not destroyed, I would simply become part of something else.

Your mistake is that we are not the energy, we are the pattern.

 

[Paul98]

If there was "paranormal" things going on we would have actually science supporting it. There isn't any.

 

[Retro Rob]

The problem is it can't. Many good scientists have researched paranormal activities and none have ever come back with what would be considered even minimally convincing evidence that would suggest that more research is warranted. That is a pretty low bar to jump over, and despite tens of thousands of tries by both experienced observers and amature sluths, nothing has ever been found.

I'm sorry to tell you this but those TV shows are faked.

Agreed...

 

[bunnyfubbles]

atheism is rejection of belief in deities, souls are an entirely different matter and not covered under that umbrella

that being said, I'd wager the vast majority of atheists do not believe in souls, just as the vast majority would also not believe in unicorns or leprechauns

 

[JEDIYoda]

They have a common lack of belief -- the question is valid.

The question is very valid!!
Atheist can post questions asking Christian to prove there is a God....

Then this question is very valid!!

 

[justoh]

The term soul as christians describe it isn't what I'm talking about. I'm talking about the human mind and what it's capable of.

The phenomena we CALL "Ghosts" could be real. If you see this phenomena manifest itself, you have to wonder what it is. It can be detected and Measured with Thermal, optical and Electromagnetic devices in addition to being seen and felt by multiple observers. What more "proof" would one want?

The "spirits of the dead" thing is just the traditional "folk explanation" or superstition about it attesting to how long the phenomena has been observed. Do not confuse or define the phenomena in terms of the superstitions associated with it - as too many people do. The likely truth is that what we call "ghosts" (note that I use a qualified statement) may be due to some phenomena related to modern Physics, such as a natural Einstein-Rosen "Bridge" (wormholes) or sporadic interactions between parallel universes.

Bottom line is that I've seen and felt and heard things I cannot explain. Many have. What it is I don't know. Modern science doesn't know. But I believe in lots of things. Like I said already, aliens for one - multiple universe's for another. There is just too much theoretical evidence of the phenomenon of the human "spirit" to say that our persona can't be imprinted on reality

This is your argument so far:

1. energy cannot be destroyed;

2. modern science incapable of understanding human mind;

3. I've "seen, felt and heard things i couldn't explain;"

4. therefore, transcendental soul; and ghosts explained by disturbances caused by parallel universes.

I'm not counting the already discredited reality tv show references with the measuring equipment and what not, but the argument is still based on pretty solid, albeit vague, references to theoretical physics, so it's bound to be possible.

 

[BurnItDwn]

Soul is the word we use to describe the electrical impulses within our brains that we do not yet understand well enough to call another thing.

Also, Kia produces a car named the Soul.

Both the electrical impulses in the brain, and the Kia are on the same reality plane as most of humanity.