Athiests are apparently the #1 group...

[ruffilb]

According to Harper's Index. I don't have a link, because I read it in print. You'll just have to trust me on this one.

Bad news for the 13.13% to 43.28% of you that are.

Edit: Just in case you all were wondering, Muslims were the #2 group (about 2.69 of ATOTers), and African-Americans were the #3.

 

[Siva]

Who wants to marry a theist anyway.

 

[purbeast0]

oh man this is going to be a fun thread ... good thing i'm catholic

 

[mordantmonkey]

haha, as though parents can actually tell their kids who they're going to marry.

 

[z0mb13]

what about agnostics?

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

 

[z0mb13]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

Agnosticism
Atheism

You're basically correct.

 

[Bryophyte]

Heh. I'm sure that my in-laws feel that way. My brother in law actually said to my face "You're going to hell, you shouldn't take your children with you." It took years for my mother in law to back down about wanting to take my kids to her church with her. They've learned not to fvck with me on this subject.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
haha, as though parents can actually tell their kids who they're going to marry.

exactly. the poll is worthless because parents can't tell their kids who they can and can't marry.
what a stupid waste of time and resources...

 

[Ronstang]

I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
haha, as though parents can actually tell their kids who they're going to marry.

exactly. the poll is worthless because parents can't tell their kids who they can and can't marry.
what a stupid waste of time and resources...

Yea, but they can definitely have an impact.

I thought it was interesting enough to post, anyway.

 

[Baked]

Xenu is the one and only true God.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
haha, as though parents can actually tell their kids who they're going to marry.

exactly. the poll is worthless because parents can't tell their kids who they can and can't marry.
what a stupid waste of time and resources...

Yea, but they can definitely have an impact.

I thought it was interesting enough to post, anyway.

i wasn't saying your post was dumb, just that the poll was.

Muslims were the #2 group (about 2.69 of ATOTers), and African-Americans were the #3.

wow, we've sure come a long way in the racism dept...

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

What about an athiest who doesn't admit the existence of God because there's not significant scientific evidence to suggest that such a god exists? Is that being blind?

 

[Bryophyte]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: mordantmonkey
haha, as though parents can actually tell their kids who they're going to marry.

exactly. the poll is worthless because parents can't tell their kids who they can and can't marry.
what a stupid waste of time and resources...

Yea, but they can definitely have an impact.

I thought it was interesting enough to post, anyway.

They definitely have an impact. In laws can have a large effect on a marriage if they're a big source of stress.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

What about an athiest who doesn't admit the existence of God because there's not significant scientific evidence to suggest that such a god exists? Is that being blind?

That would be an illogical agnostic posing as an atheist. Or an atheist using partial agnostic beliefs as justification. Especially since science can only prove something false. There would also not be enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a god does not exist.

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

Why do you care as long as they along with people of color stay out of your neighborhood on Halloween.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

Agnostics dont believe in anything. I am an agnostic...

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

Agnostics dont believe in anything. I am an agnostic...

Wrong. You are part of a subset of agnostics, but to say that all agnostics don't believe in anything is erroneous.

 

[DingDingDao]

Originally posted by: Baked
Xenu is the one and only true God.

LOL :laugh:

Am I the only one who gets this? Cruise and Travolta would be pissed...

 

[ruffilb]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

What about an athiest who doesn't admit the existence of God because there's not significant scientific evidence to suggest that such a god exists? Is that being blind?

That would be an illogical agnostic posing as an atheist. Or an atheist using partial agnostic beliefs as justification. Especially since science can only prove something false. There would also not be enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a god does not exist.

Still an atheist - regardless of the reasons, someone who denies the existence of god is an atheist. As for "There would also not be enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a god does not exist," well, there's not enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a group of aliens living in the center of the moon are controlling everything on earth, etc. I'm not saying that science PROVES that there isn't a God, I'm just saying that there's very little evidence to suggest that there is one (especially a Christian God).

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: Ronstang
I don't believe in God, but I would not consider myself an athiest. I simply don't put enough thought into the issue to really care. I will say that athiests are as annoying if not more so than the fundie religious people though. They are following their own brand of religion all the while being to naive or blind to even notice. There is a BIG difference between being areligious (may not be a word but means non-religious or religiously indifferent for the comprehension impaired of grammar nazis) and being an athiest......but you won't get an athiest to realize or admit that.

What about an athiest who doesn't admit the existence of God because there's not significant scientific evidence to suggest that such a god exists? Is that being blind?

That would be an illogical agnostic posing as an atheist. Or an atheist using partial agnostic beliefs as justification. Especially since science can only prove something false. There would also not be enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a god does not exist.

Still an atheist - regardless of the reasons, someone who denies the existence of god is an atheist. As for "There would also not be enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a god does not exist," well, there's not enough significant scientific evidence to prove that a group of aliens living in the center of the moon are controlling everything on earth, etc. I'm not saying that science PROVES that there isn't a God, I'm just saying that there's very little evidence to suggest that there is one (especially a Christian God).

Which goes back to your original question of "is that being blind?" Both Theists and Atheists are blind in this sense, and have beliefs.

 

[ValkyrieofHouston]

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

Agnostics dont believe in anything. I am an agnostic...

Wrong. You are part of a subset of agnostics, but to say that all agnostics don't believe in anything is erroneous.

Well this may be the case for most, don't know. However I did find the definition of Agnosticism:

Definitions of Agnostic on the Web:

* A word first used by Professor Huxley, to indicate one who believes nothing which cannot be demonstrated by the senses.
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-glos.htm

* An Agnostic [1] [noun] [OW] embraces a worldview in which the existence of deity is unknown or unknowable. Derives from the Greek agnostos, a = without, gnostos = known or knowledge. "Agnostic[ism] [CE] was coined by Professor TH Huxley in 1869 to describe the mental attitude of one who regarded as futile all attempts to know the reality corresponding to our ultimate scientific, philosophic, and religious ideas."
members.aol.com/porchnus/dict01.htm

* one who believes that the evidence for and against the existence of God is inconclusive. (agnosticism)
www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/

* Agnostic: one who questions religious or spiritual beliefs, and who may choose not to claim any system of knowledge.
iamuniversity.org/glossary/cv_glossarylist.php

* One who holds the theory that God is unknown or unknowable
www.innvista.com/culture/religion/diction.htm

* Someone who claims that they do not know or are unable to know whether God exists.
www.abdn.ac.uk/philosophy/guide/glossary.shtml

* Agnosticism asserts no knowledge of gods and therefore concludes there are no reasons to believe in them or not to believe in them. An agnostic follows this credo and differs from the atheist who has developed an active belief that there are no gods. When it comes to the question of existence of deities, an agnostic will respond: I just don't know.
designdynamics.org/dictionary.html

* someone who is doubtful or noncommittal about something
* of or pertaining to an agnostic or agnosticism
* uncertain of all claims to knowledge
* a person who claims that they cannot have true knowledge about the existence of God (but does not deny that God might exist)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Agnosticism is the philosophical view that the truth values of certain claims, particularly theological claims regarding the existence of God, gods or deities, are either unknown or inherently unknowable. The term and the related agnostic were coined by Thomas Henry Huxley in 1869 and are also used to describe those who are unconvinced or noncommittal about the existence of deities as well as other matters of religion. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: BigJ

Originally posted by: ValkyrieofHouston

Originally posted by: z0mb13

Originally posted by: ruffilb

Originally posted by: z0mb13
what about agnostics?

Didn't say, although if I had to venture a guess, they'd be (incorrectly) thrown into the same boat as atheists.

BLASPHEMY!!

I believe agnostics think there is a possibility that god exists, while atheists completely believe that there is no god.

Agnostics dont believe in anything. I am an agnostic...

Wrong. You are part of a subset of agnostics, but to say that all agnostics don't believe in anything is erroneous.

Well this may be the case for most, don't know. However I did find the definition of Agnosticism:

Definitions of Agnostic on the Web:

* A word first used by Professor Huxley, to indicate one who believes nothing which cannot be demonstrated by the senses.
www.theosociety.org/pasadena/key/key-glos.htm

* An Agnostic [1] [noun] [OW] embraces a worldview in which the existence of deity is unknown or unknowable. Derives from the Greek agnostos, a = without, gnostos = known or knowledge. "Agnostic[ism] [CE] was coined by Professor TH Huxley in 1869 to describe the mental attitude of one who regarded as futile all attempts to know the reality corresponding to our ultimate scientific, philosophic, and religious ideas."
members.aol.com/porchnus/dict01.htm

* one who believes that the evidence for and against the existence of God is inconclusive. (agnosticism)
www.summit.org/resource/dictionary/

* Agnostic: one who questions religious or spiritual beliefs, and who may choose not to claim any system of knowledge.
iamuniversity.org/glossary/cv_glossarylist.php

* One who holds the theory that God is unknown or unknowable
www.innvista.com/culture/religion/diction.htm

* Someone who claims that they do not know or are unable to know whether God exists.
www.abdn.ac.uk/philosophy/guide/glossary.shtml

* Agnosticism asserts no knowledge of gods and therefore concludes there are no reasons to believe in them or not to believe in them. An agnostic follows this credo and differs from the atheist who has developed an active belief that there are no gods. When it comes to the question of existence of deities, an agnostic will respond: I just don't know.
designdynamics.org/dictionary.html

* someone who is doubtful or noncommittal about something
* of or pertaining to an agnostic or agnosticism
* uncertain of all claims to knowledge
* a person who claims that they cannot have true knowledge about the existence of God (but does not deny that God might exist)
wordnet.princeton.edu/perl/webwn

* Agnosticism is the philosophical view that the truth values of certain claims, particularly theological claims regarding the existence of God, gods or deities, are either unknown or inherently unknowable. The term and the related agnostic were coined by Thomas Henry Huxley in 1869 and are also used to describe those who are unconvinced or noncommittal about the existence of deities as well as other matters of religion. ...
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agnostic

And your point is?

If you read the Wiki article you quoted, you'll see how many varying types of agnostics there are.