ATHF: Competition: 10/07/10 Weighted Chin ups : Event number: 004

[purbeast0]

I can do those easy...you are still able to draw from both sides when you do this. What is far more difficult is to just do it with one hand - off hand not gripping anything. Back when I did rock climbing, I weighed less (~145) and was far more conditioned to that sort of thing. I could do one or two then. Definitely not anymore.

ah okay, i was just wondering. i just have tried the other way randomly when between sets. i may try one of the REAL one handed ones today when im using the cables for triceps.

 

[brikis98]

not sure if i did them 100% correct, but i started from a dead hang, with my left arm holding onto the bar, and my right hand around my left wrist.

These are an order of magnitude easier than a real one handed pull-up, where one hand holds onto the bar and the other is just hanging free.

BTW, be careful with one armed pull-ups. If you don't do them correctly/carefully, you can easily injure your elbow and shoulder. If you're interested in them, check out the beastskills tutorial for a good guide.

 

[Koing]

Added a few new additions to the rules.

No kips ups/ must be from a dead hang, no knees or hips. This is a pure upperbody test!

purbeast01 , I can rattle out one arm chins holding my wrist man

BUT can anyone do it holding their elbow?! The lower you can have your free hand that isn't in contact with the bar the closer you will get to a single 1arm pullup.

Koing

 

[Koing]

I also read somewhere (always the case) that less then 1 in 10'000 people will be able to do a 'strict' one arm pull up! One arm being the other arm is behind your back with no kipping!

Koing

 

[clemsyn]

Name: clemsyn
Body weight : 132 lbs
Result: 62 lbs
% of Body: 46.96

This is only 1 chin-up. I didn't have any additional weights so I had my eldest son piggy ride on my back (he is 8 yrs of age and his last weight to the doctor was 62 lbs) while I do 1. This is from a dead-hang, no kicks or kimps. I did this on my Iron Gym. Video will be up upon request by thread starter

 

[Koing]

Name: clemsyn
Body weight : 132 lbs
Result: 62 lbs
% of Body: 46.96

This is only 1 chin-up. I didn't have any additional weights so I had my eldest son piggy ride on my back (he is 8 yrs of age and his last weight to the doctor was 62 lbs) while I do 1. This is from a dead-hang, no kicks or kimps. I did this on my Iron Gym. Video will be up upon request by thread starter

Post up a video anyway! It's always fun to see and more so for non weights and a kid on your back instead!

Please can you put your results down in the correct format please next time?

Correct Format:
Name: Koing
Bw: 90kg : 198lbs
Result: 30kg : 66lbs
Class: 94kg : 206.8lbs
%ofBody : 33.3% (30/90)

It's not so bad when it's a few, but if everyone put their results in the wrong format it would be a pain to work it over and over again for everyone. cheers!

Koing

 

[clemsyn]

ok, will upload video

 

[clemsyn]

OK, here is the link.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/clemsyn/?action=view&current=chin-up.flv

Name: clemsyn
BW: 132 lbs
Result: 62 lbs
Class: 136.4 lbs
% Body Weight: 46.96

Hope I did it right

Tried to do 2 but shoulder started to hurt

 

[Koing]

OK, here is the link.

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a240/clemsyn/?action=view&current=chin-up.flv

Name: clemsyn
BW: 132 lbs
Result: 62 lbs
Class: 136.4 lbs
% Body Weight: 46.96

Hope I did it right

Tried to do 2 but shoulder started to hurt

Nice mate

Results in Kg's please! Thanks,

Koing

 

[clemsyn]

Name: clemsyn
BW: 59.87 kg : 132 lbs
Result: 28.12 kg : 62 lbs
Class: 61.87 kg : 136.4 lbs
% Body Weight : 46.96

I'm pretty sure I can add more weight but I just don't have access to weights. I tried adding my 42 lbs toddler but he just can't hold on when I do a pull up

 

[Deeko]

Today's entry

The BW+90 was definitely good. The BW+115...not so sure. I'm inclined to say no good, I did touch the underside of my chin but only by craning upwards. I'll leave it to the judges here on ATHF to determine which lift counts...I'm going to get another entry in before the deadline, so its not a big deal anyway.

Name: Deeko
BW: 73.03 kg : 161 lb
Result: 40.82 kg : 90 lb
Class: 77 kg : 169 lb
%OfBody: 55.9%

Name: Deeko
BW: 73.03 kg : 161 lb
Result: 52.16 kg : 115 lb
Class: 77 kg : 169 lb
%OfBody: 71.4%

 

[clemsyn]

I'd say +115 is good. You did get your chin up there. Great job!

 

[Kev]

Name: Kev
Bw: 86.18kg : 190lbs
Result: 34.02kg : 75lbs
Class: 94kg : 206.8lbs
%ofBody : 39.47%

I'm pretty sure I can do more, I did 1 1/2 reps. I'll try again if I remember.

 

[brikis98]

My gym just got a dip belt, so I did some weighted chin-ups today. Tied my PR of BW+125. Tried BW+135, but didn't get my chin over the bar.

Name: brikis98
BW: 88.4 kg : 195 lb
Result: 56.7 kg : 125 lb
Class: 94kg : 206.8 lb
%OfBody: 64.1%

BTW, I figured I'd mention that tracking % of bodyweight lifted doesn't make sense in a weighted pull-up contest. Since a big part of the exercise is lifting your own bodyweight, being heavier does not necessarily confer the same advantage as it might in a deadlift or press. In fact, given the same amount of training, I'd typically expect the lighter guy to be able to do more weight and a higher % of bodyweight than a heavier guy. Maybe we should just see who does the heaviest chin-up total (ie, bodyweight + weight lifted)?

 

[crt1530]

Name: Mike
Bw: 94.54kg : 208lbs
Result: 81.81kg : 180lbs
Class: 94kg : 206.8lbs
%ofBody : 86%


Edited because I am a moron...see my post below

Yes, yes you are.

you are correct, I have tried a 1 arm chin-up before but could not do it(even though I have pretty strong arms too, I can rep out with easy curl bar + 2 X 45's for 31 reps), got close though. But I also tried it without having my other arm hold and assist me.


here is someone with 208

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8V5KS_89QCY

I could get up higher than that, sorry I have no access to a video camera

Proof of lying about not having access to a video camera:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29912233

 

[Kev]

I fully expected to be in last place but did you have to subtract 5 percentage points from my lift?!?

 

[glenn beck]

I did BW+270 back in college. Only BW+180 today. No video.

/Herbot

lulz

No vids = yet another e-stat thread.

:hmm:

 

[Deeko]

:hmm:

That post - ending in /Herbot - was a reference to the last competition (Deadlift) where some guy (Herbot) came into the thread out of nowhere, posted outrageous deadlift stats, but wouldn't post a video of it. Similar to what you did. crt actually posts videos of his lifts quite regularly.

brikis - if you want, we could go by total weight lifted...so the score is actually BW + x, with th percentage being that / bw.....

 

[Koing]

Yes, yes you are.



Proof of lying about not having access to a video camera:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?p=29912233

LOL @ pwnt

My gym just got a dip belt, so I did some weighted chin-ups today. Tied my PR of BW+125. Tried BW+135, but didn't get my chin over the bar.

Name: brikis98
BW: 88.4 kg : 195 lb
Result: 56.7 kg : 125 lb
Class: 94kg : 206.8 lb
%OfBody: 64.1%

BTW, I figured I'd mention that tracking % of bodyweight lifted doesn't make sense in a weighted pull-up contest. Since a big part of the exercise is lifting your own bodyweight, being heavier does not necessarily confer the same advantage as it might in a deadlift or press. In fact, given the same amount of training, I'd typically expect the lighter guy to be able to do more weight and a higher % of bodyweight than a heavier guy. Maybe we should just see who does the heaviest chin-up total (ie, bodyweight + weight lifted)?

Well

My gym just got a dip belt, so I did some weighted chin-ups today. Tied my PR of BW+125. Tried BW+135, but didn't get my chin over the bar.

Name: brikis98
BW: 88.4 kg : 195 lb
Result: 56.7 kg : 125 lb
Class: 94kg : 206.8 lb
%OfBody: 64.1%

BTW, I figured I'd mention that tracking % of bodyweight lifted doesn't make sense in a weighted pull-up contest. Since a big part of the exercise is lifting your own bodyweight, being heavier does not necessarily confer the same advantage as it might in a deadlift or press. In fact, given the same amount of training, I'd typically expect the lighter guy to be able to do more weight and a higher % of bodyweight than a heavier guy. Maybe we should just see who does the heaviest chin-up total (ie, bodyweight + weight lifted)?

It's still a % of bw. Yes the heavier people are always f0cked in terms of %, and the lighter guy will find it easier to lift a greater % but such is life. We can lift more in absolute terms...hopefully

In Olifting the 69kg guys lift the most lb for lb on 'strict' % terms.

Sorry Kev my mistake mate!

Koing

 

[Koing]

That post - ending in /Herbot - was a reference to the last competition (Deadlift) where some guy (Herbot) came into the thread out of nowhere, posted outrageous deadlift stats, but wouldn't post a video of it. Similar to what you did. crt actually posts videos of his lifts quite regularly.

brikis - if you want, we could go by total weight lifted...so the score is actually BW + x, with th percentage being that / bw.....

Whatever you guys want lads. Just write the numbers.

Koing

 

[Deeko]

Whatever you guys want lads. Just write the numbers.

Koing

Honestly, it won't make a difference....

my total now: 115 / 161 = 71.4%
my total under new scoring: 276 / 161 = 171.4%

As always the lighter person has an advantage. This is why formulas like Wilks favor heavier people. Just the nature of the beast.

 

[brikis98]

It's still a % of bw. Yes the heavier people are always f0cked in terms of %, and the lighter guy will find it easier to lift a greater % but such is life. We can lift more in absolute terms...hopefully

In Olifting the 69kg guys lift the most lb for lb on 'strict' % terms.

In o-lifting & powerlifting, lifting your bodyweight is a very insignificant part of the total work. Therefore, being heavier is a big advantage. This is why o-lifting & powerlifting competitions split into weight classes.

With pull-ups and other bodyweight exercises, lifting your body weight is (obviously) an enormous part of the lift. Being heavier is mostly a disadvantage, or at best, breaks even. The 300lb guy who has all that extra muscle to help him in the deadlift has his own weight working against him on the pull-up. Compare the 300lb guy doing a +100lb pull-up to a 200lb guy doing the same. Only looking at bodyweight percentages (33% vs 50%) or weight lifted (100lbs vs 100lbs), we'd declare the lighter guy the winner, which completely ignores the fact that the heavier guy is pulling a total of 400lbs while the lighter guy is pulling a total of 300lbs.

 

[Koing]

In o-lifting & powerlifting, lifting your bodyweight is a very insignificant part of the total work. Therefore, being heavier is a big advantage. This is why o-lifting & powerlifting competitions split into weight classes.

With pull-ups and other bodyweight exercises, lifting your body weight is (obviously) an enormous part of the lift. Being heavier is mostly a disadvantage, or at best, breaks even. The 300lb guy who has all that extra muscle to help him in the deadlift has his own weight working against him on the pull-up. Compare the 300lb guy doing a +100lb pull-up to a 200lb guy doing the same. Only looking at bodyweight percentages (33% vs 50%) or weight lifted (100lbs vs 100lbs), we'd declare the lighter guy the winner, which completely ignores the fact that the heavier guy is pulling a total of 400lbs while the lighter guy is pulling a total of 300lbs.

Point. BUT the 300lb should be stronger to compensate j/k

I get your point man. But you win some and lose some depending on your height and build in all exercises.

Koing

 

[Pantlegz]

Name: pantlegz1
BW: 107.5 kg : 237 lb
Result: 11.34 kg : 25 lb
Class: 105+g : 231+ lb
%OfBody: 10.5%

I'll be in 2 categories for this comp, I'll be below 231 by the end of the month so I'm not sure how you want to handle that. Also my chin ups are weak as hell, I'm sure I could have gotten more just wanted to get a rough idea as to where I am.

 

[clemsyn]

Koing,

Should age be taken into consideration in this contest?