Atheists face death in 13 Muslim countries

[sandorski]

Haha, man these threads really go nuts. The thing doubled in size since I last posted.

Anyway, You want to deny the idea that if there is a creator of the universe, that the creator would by default be the owner of the universe and the one who determines the measure of all things in that universe. This is what your statements imply. Is this correct?

My statements imply that if such a being exists, that it is not Righteous just because it claims to be. What you are implying is simple slavery to something because it's more Powerful. Not that it is more Moral or Loving or some other noble quality.

Might makes Right is the full extent of your Moral System. I find that unacceptable.

 

[ThinClient]

Well, when was Adam created according to your sources? I simply request how many years ago, if applicable.

The DNA evidence in the fossil record proves that Adam was not created and did not exist.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

The DNA evidence in the fossil record proves that Adam was not created and did not exist.

The DNA evidence in fossil records prove that you are a retard.

 

[ThinClient]

The DNA evidence in fossil records prove that you are a retard.

Wow, what a mature reply! You, sir, are clearly offering your opposition the same respect that they are offering you. What an upstanding Christian, you obviously are.

 

[Pray To Jesus]

Wow, what a mature reply! You, sir, are clearly offering your opposition the same respect that they are offering you. What an upstanding Christian, you obviously are.

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

 

[ThinClient]

Live by the sword, die by the sword.

A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush.

 

[sandorski]

To Be or not to Be, that is the question.

 

[Texashiker]

And I'm sure you can give us a cited example of an atheist making such an argument.

If atheist would keep their mouth shut, or better yet not live in a muslim nation, we would not be reading about them facing death.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

 

[Retro Rob]

If atheist would keep their mouth shut, or better yet not live in a muslim nation, we would not be reading about them facing death.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

I agree that folks should be aware of where they live, but are you seriously suggesting that its the fault of the atheists, for simply being atheists, that murderistic Muslims want to kill them?

Is this what you're suggesting?

 

[ThinClient]

I agree that folks should be aware of where they live, but are you seriously suggesting that its the fault of the atheists, for simply being atheists, that murderistic Muslims want to kill them?

Is this what you're suggesting?

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

 

[CPA]

If atheist would keep their mouth shut, or better yet not live in a muslim nation, we would not be reading about them facing death.

When in Rome do as the Romans do.

Could you imagine if the us followed this logic.

 

[Texashiker]

I agree that folks should be aware of where they live, but are you seriously suggesting that its the fault of the atheists, for simply being atheists, that murderistic Muslims want to kill them?

Is this what you're suggesting?

When in Rome do as the Romans do. Do not go into a nation where you know you may be killed if you offend islam.

So yes, it is the atheist fault for putting themselves at risk.

Would you walk onto a highway an expect an 18 wheeler truck to drive around you? Or better yet, stand on a set of tracks and expect a train to go around you?

Islam is not going to go around you.

Could you imagine if the us followed this logic.

We did for a very long time. Up until the 1970s it was legal to kill mormons in some states.

But our legal system is supposed to keep religion and our laws separated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Mormonism

executive order (since called the Extermination Order) by Missouri governor Lilburn Boggs declaring "the Mormons must be treated as enemies, and must be exterminated or driven from the State." ........The Extermination Order was not formally rescinded until 1976.

 

[Retro Rob]

:thumbsup::thumbsup:

I mean seriously, the reverse could be said about Christians. They're the reason why they're hunted and killed in Muslim countries because they need "to keep their mouths shut".

His logic is clearly consistently backward if he disagrees with the above.

 

[ThinClient]

But our legal system is supposed to keep religion and our laws separated.

Too bad Christians violate this every chance they get and have done so very successfully many times.

 

[Texashiker]

Too bad Christians violate this every chance they get and have done so very successfully many times.

Trying to get off the topic of muslims killing atheist?

 

[Retro Rob]

The DNA evidence in the fossil record proves that Adam was not created and did not exist.

Okay, so NOW you can prove a negative. ... or can't you? Which one is it, ThinClient?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Could you imagine if the us followed this logic.

The Church of England would rule the north, and the Protestants would rule the south

 

[ThinClient]

I mean seriously, the reverse could be said about Christians. They're the reason why they're hunted and killed in Muslim countries because they need "to keep their mouths shut".

His logic is clearly consistently backward if he disagrees with the above.

Aye. I'm pretty sure he's just trolling. He hasn't added anything legit to this conversation. From what I understand, he's known around this forum for being a trolling butthead.

 

[ThinClient]

Okay, so NOW you can prove a negative. ... or can't you? Which one is it, ThinClient?

It's not proving a negative. Get that out of your brain.

It's disproving a positive claim. The positive claim is that humans were created instantly in their current form. The evidence overwhelmingly dictates that man evolved from previous species, just like all other primates, whose earlier evolutions can be traced all the way back to the sea.

The evidence, which has been scrutinized repeatedly, has shown to be solid and does not support the conclusion that you cling to.

However, as most religious people do, you cling to the conclusion you want to conclude and reject all evidence that does not support it. This is an irrational and illogical decision.

 

[Texashiker]

Aye. I'm pretty sure he's just trolling. He hasn't added anything legit to this conversation. From what I understand, he's known around this forum for being a trolling butthead.

Are you talking about me?

 

[ThinClient]

Are you talking about me?

Hmm?

 

[Texashiker]

Hmm?

On the topic of this thread, I believe people have a right to preserve their culture and their religion.

If their culture says to kill atheist, then so be it, kill em all.

It is not our place to judge another culture by our standards.

Using the argument that gays like to use, muslims killing atheist does not affect you. What they are doing is in their nation. So what is the problem?

 

[ThinClient]

On the topic of this thread, I believe people have a right to preserve their culture and their religion.

If their culture says to kill atheist, then so be it, kill em all.

It is not our place to judge another culture by our standards.

Using the argument that gays like to use, muslims killing atheist does not affect you. What they are doing is in their nation. So what is the problem?

Sorry, what?

 

[Retro Rob]

It's not proving a negative. Get that out of your brain.

It's disproving a positive claim.

...bu..bu..I thought you said:

The burden of evidence rests on the shoulders of those making the positive claim.

Just thought I'd leave this here.

 

[Retro Rob]

It's disproving a positive claim. The positive claim is that humans were created instantly in their current form. The evidence overwhelmingly dictates that man evolved from previous species, just like all other primates, whose earlier evolutions can be traced all the way back to the sea.

The evidence, which has been scrutinized repeatedly, has shown to be solid and does not support the conclusion that you cling to.

And I'd just like to mention that Evolution was fully accepted by the scientifc community well before they had nearly as much fossil evidence as they have today.

That tells me that science have spent the last, say...170 years or so trying to prove it, and less time trying to disprove it, or in other words, forcing the evidence to fit.