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[Steve Guilliot]

I have to honest with all you Atheists here.....

This is the coolest thread I have seen on Anandtech!

UG,
Didn't I see you arguing in favor of Bushie in another thread? And to think, all this time I had you pegged as a Pube, and certainly not a non-believer. How wrong I was. Maybe I'm just thinking of someone else.

Dedpuhl,
I laughed so hard at the power=dump post that I almost pissed my pants! Good stuff. Bravo. Thanks to MrPALCO for setting that one up.

I personally think the site is a little crude, but fun nonetheless. There are other sites that are just as convincing yet less offensive for the more sensitive types.

One more atheist present in this thread. We may be only 8-15% of the US population, but when we get together, it's magic. I'll take Wedesdo's lead and have a beer in celebration.

P.S. I'm waiting for the prominent Christians on Anandtech to really start dumping on this thread, though it appears as if some of them are getting warmed up.

 

[Passions]

Great job of misquoting and pulling verses out of orignal content. Great job!@!

The guy has no clue how to seperate the Old testament and New. Blahhh.....

 

[Steve Guilliot]

On a related topic, don't you find it frustrating that an acknowledged atheist could never be elected to any office of importance? Sad, but it's a practical fact for the foreseeable future.



Bobtist,
"Don't worry UG, I'll lay off my 'pedestrian' analyzations of how archeaological discoveries continue to prove that the Bible is a authentic, reliable historical work."

Wow, thanks for laying off. For a minute there I thought you were going to argue about how evidence supports the Bible as an authentic, reliable historical work. Oh.... I see that you have. Nevermind.

"Lastly, just to clear up a misconception, Christianity doesn't base salvation on what you do. It's a common misinterpretation made by people who have not read the Bible."

Of course, your right. How else could Christianity maintain an monopoly on Salvation(tm)?

 

[MrPALCO]

<< I find it intriguing that when I am asked to write an essay, it is made clear that I am to site as many sources as possible, and that my information be accountable, and up to date. >>



Up to date? Hmmmmm....how about Mein Komp, Helter Skelter, Origin of Man, The Turner Chronicles, Earth in the Balance, The Communist Manifesto, etc, etc.

The above examples are words that are godless, are they to be looked to for Life?

My point is, that many words written by Man in recent History are dead, and unable to give life.

 

[Eug]

<< The above examples are words that are godless, are they to be looked to for Life? My point is, that many words written by Man in recent History are dead, and unable to give life. >>

Heheh, huh?

I choose to judge a person's words by its content, not by that person's religion.

&quot;Two hands working can do more than a thousand clasped in prayer.&quot; - Anonymous

 

[MrPALCO]

<< I choose to judge a person's words by its content, not by that person's religion. >>



I agree....religion is not the source of Life....

 

[Dedpuhl]

I have been away....now it's time to respond

MrPALCO

Does the name of Jesus convey special power, when used to make a point?

I think UG summed it up best for me...

I have observed that atheists tend to be full of.....oh....never mind...

...logic? Reasoning?


Bowdown

Hehe... Don't bring me into thi! LOL

LOL


Bobby Ribbs

Great job of misquoting and pulling verses out of orignal content. Great job!@!
The guy has no clue how to seperate the Old testament and New. Blahhh.....

It is really hard to pull rape, murder, genocide, etc. out of context when many of the verses clearly mention the above. Why separate the old and the new? Aren't they the words of your God?

 

[Dedpuhl]

&quot;I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect, had intended for us to forgo their use.&quot;

..........Galileo Galilei

 

[MrPALCO]

<< ...logic? Reasoning? >>



Is this the source of life...for the atheist?

 

[Dedpuhl]

I will take logic and reasoning any day over christianity...

 

[MrPALCO]

<< I will take logic and reasoning any day over christianity... >>



What is ...&quot;christianity&quot;?

 

<< Who did write the Bible? Where, other than in that book, is there solid proof of his, and 'god's existance? Also, it wasn't until about 400 years after his death that people started practicing Christianity. >>



The author of each book in the bible is in that book's title. Ex: The Gospel of John, The Epistle of Paul to the Romans, etc...

Other than in the Bible, early Christianity has been documented by other 1st century historians. Josephus, a Jew born in AD 37, wrote The Antiquities, which chronicled the history of the Jewish people, included the event of a man named Jesus being brought before the Sanhedrin and accused of defying the law. Josephus receives most of his recognition for writing about the Jewish-Roman War (AD 66-74).

Tacitus, a Roman historian, documented how the early Christians were persecuted by Nero. Specifically using them as a scapegoat to divert attention away from himself for the great fire that devastated Rome (AD 64).

Pliny the Younger, a Roman ruler in Turkey, had much written correspondence with his friend Emporer Trajan. He talked quite frequently about the process he used to convict and execute them. He thought they were all stubborn and that they deserved punishment. Written AD 111.

That points to Christianity being practiced very soon after Christ's death. How could something have been spread as far as Rome in only 29 years (Crucifixition ~ 33AD)... The oldest manuscript of The Gospel of John (which was the last of the gospels to be written) is dated to 98AD, which from the point of a historian, stacks the New Testament up very well against other works of ancient times (like Homer's Iliad, written around 800BC--earliest manuscripts we have of it date to 2nd century AD).

 

[wviperw]

Christians look to the Bible for the answer. Atheists, instead, look to philosophers and &quot;Great Men&quot; for the answers.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< . Atheists, instead, look to philosophers and &quot;Great Men&quot; for the answers. >>



Great men? Hitler, Stalin, Darwin, ...?.....who?

 

[Steve Guilliot]

As I predicted, the crap is raining from asses on high. Fundies, quite crapping on this thread. Old arguments yield the same results.

MrPALCO,
You keep asking about the &quot;source of Life&quot;. This implies that there is a source of Life (God), which is the answer you are looking for. Circular reasoning. If you ask &quot;What is the source of the Pot-o-Gold?&quot; will you be suprised to conclude that Leprechauns exist? Your posts are pointless and naive, so stop the crapfest.

 

[Steve Guilliot]

Bobtist,
You have no idea what you are talking about. Your argument only rely on half the truth, because you never bothered looking for the other half. All those sources you cite are fraudulent. It has been proven. Try reading the Encyclopedia of Biblical Errancy. It has compiled all the information about each source, and why each is regarded in the historical community as erroneous. You can find the info elsewhere if you want to, as well.

Stop crapping on this thread.

 

[Eug]

<< Great men? Hitler, Stalin, Darwin, ...?.....who? >>



Hmmm... It's interesting that you put Darwin in with Hitler and Stalin. That is unfortunate and sad, if intentional. I'm glad that I live in an environment that scientific curiosity and skepticism are rewarded, when supported by good evidence. Without this environment, penicillin would not exist. Without this environment humans would not have landed on the moon. Without this environment, small pox would still be killing children all around the world. I do not look to Charles Darwin for spiritual guidance or salvation, but I respect his work and his powers of scientific deduction. If he were alive today, I would like to be able to have a conversation with him because he seems like he was an intelligent human being. But I would speak to him as a fellow human being. I do not revere him, and I do not revere anyone. I judge people by the content of their character and their contribution to society, whatever that may be.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< Circular reasoning. >>



What is that? An atheist buzz word for &quot;I cannot comprehend where you are coming from&quot;? Come on, if you have some source, reveal it. Do you atheists have an answer?



<< Your posts are pointless and naive, so stop the crapfest. >>



Someone said....&quot;you know that's a lazy cop out&quot;..

Edit:

<< I do not look to Charles Darwin for spiritual guidance or salvation, >>



Hmmm...so you acknowledge the existance of the Spirit world?

It seems atheism has is lacking in any kind of power for living.

 

[azazyel]

edited:

 

[Eug]

<< Hmmm...so you acknowledge the existance of the Spirit world? >>

No, but I respect the right of others to believe.

P.S. Darwin studied theology at Christ's College, Cambridge.

 

[MrPALCO]

<< P.S. Darwin studied theology at Christ's College, Cambridge. >>



Hitler was a Catholic....that carries no weight in the arena of Truth..

 

Yikes, that book costs $50+ online. Maybe I'll run across it at the library, I'll check it sometime.

It probably claims that these works are erroneous because of Christian embellishment and interpolation. While there are blatant examples of interpolation in Josephus' work, there are some places where the original material was obviously not interpolated. Of course, when you read something like, &quot;Jesus, who was crucified and rose again on the third day, be to him glory on most high....blah...blah,&quot; I mean duh, somebody changed that around. But when he speaks of Jesus and his brother James, in Antiquities 20:200 for example, it is not embellished or anything, just simple history.

 

[azazyel]

The book of enoch is good reading as well.

 

[8008S]

I'm having a nice conversation w/ the guy in AIM.

 

[jaydee]

<< P.S. Darwin studied theology at Christ's College, Cambridge. >>


Which was the only degree he ever got by the way. Was this link suppose to be a joke, completely false, or what? If you don't understand something you should shut up about it, or find out. Whatever crap wrote that is an idiot, yet people listen. People are fools. Someday, all will know the truth.