Atheism channel coming soon! American Atheist

[Retro Rob]

Actually, I have started a non-stamp collecting website, and we're having an old fashioned non-stamp collecting tent revival next week.

The Church of Non-Stamp Collecting

LOL

 

[kage69]

The only people getting butthurt are the atheists who whine when they get compared to religious zealots.

I know, I know, atheism is a religion like not collecting stamps is a hobby. Let me know when somebody starts a channel to discuss not collecting stamps.

Face it, atheism is becoming a religion. Sorry if that hurts your butt, whackjob.

Wow. I'm used to seeing some horribly lame posts from you Bober, but that's bad even by your standards.

False equivalence, false attribution, assumption, even an ad hom there in the end - aww man it's all here! Bravo Bober, bravo!

So just to review, you do apparently think getting a TV station is some kind of prerequisite for an established religion (lol), that it's the atheists acting butthurt (must be that much lauded 'War on Atheism' they won't shut up about, right?) and asking you to substantiate your opinion qualifies one as a "whackjob"

Well, you didn't refute or support anything, but at least you sounded pretty stupid doing it. Grats!

 

[WHAMPOM]

Speaking at a gathering of local atheists, humanists, freethinkers and other nontheists in a chemistry lecture hall at Stanford University, David Silverman, president of American Atheists, a national advocacy group for nontheists, announced Tuesday (May 6) that his New Jersey-based organization would launch the first television channel dedicated to atheism in July.

“Why are we going to television?” he asked the audience, a mix of about 100 students and people from the local community. “It’s part of our strategy of going where we are not.”

Silverman, 49, said the television channel, which will be available via Roku, an Internet streaming player that attaches to televisions like a cable box, will run atheist content seven days a week, 24 hours a day. He estimated it will reach 7 million households and will be free, at least initially.

The channel, which Silverman did not name, is believed to be the first channel dedicated exclusively to nontheism. There are more than 100 Christian and four Jewish television stations broadcasting in the United States.

The channel will air video of previous atheist events, such as footage from past American Atheist conventions and speakers at 2012‘s Reason Rally in Washington, D.C., as well as content provided by atheist video bloggers and other atheist groups.

In addition, the channel will air segments of “The Atheist Viewpoint,” a show produced two decades ago by Madalyn Murray O’Hair, American Atheists’ deceased founder and plaintiff in the 1963 landmark Supreme Court case that removed Bible readings from public schools.

“We are envisioning a lot of different content from many different atheist content creators,” said Dave Muscato, American Atheists’ director of communications. “We are hoping to sign on many other atheists who create videos currently on YouTube and other places.”

Reaction from the Stanford crowd was enthusiastic; a few began to applaud and a ripple of discussion buzzed through the room after Silverman’s announcement. Tom Manger, an atheist from Pleasanton, Calif., asked Silverman whether he considered creating an atheist radio channel. Manger said he has a playlist of more than 1,000 songs that are atheist in theme, nature or origin.

“It’s a possibility,” Silverman said.

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Interesting, but I don't think they will have a big enough audience honestly to make this thing work..lol They really can't compete with so many Religious channels. But we shall see.

If it is anything like a theme of information that Bill Maher did "Religiosity" which I thought was very good, and entertaining, I might watch it.

Link to article

I see this as going down the drain like the liberal channel did. People liberal or atheist don't need constant re-enforcement of the obvious. Bill Maher is a humorist poking at pomposity. Read a little Twain, a Will Rogers reenactment, listen to a Carlin record, you will get the idea.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

So if its "nothing else", then why the channel, conventions, singing? Seems more than "nothing else", to me.

Non belief is static. I don't believe in Unicorns, yet, I have no non-unicorn channel, and I don't attend "American A-unicornist" conventions.

Its a movement, a non-belief, belief...a religion in it own right.

You'll do a lot better if you simply acknowledge that truth.

This argument is still retarded.

There is BET and yet being black is NOT a religion, is it? If a catholic is an actor does that mean that acting has anything to do with her religion?

How about hospitals and schools? How about if a Lutheran drives a car, does that make driving a car a Lutheran practice?

Atheists do all sorts of things for their own reasons, that doesn't redefine what atheist means which is still just not-theist (literally, that is what it literally means).

SOME atheists like to go to conventions or hold conventions for like minded people, some scientists like that, some car enthusiast do the same, this does not make it a religion.

There isn't actually a single thing you can use to define all atheists as a group except not-theist.

 

[kage69]

Loads of things that are demonstrably not religions have both TV channels and conventions dedicated to them.

You need a better argument.

Shhhhhhhhh! You'll only confuse them with facts, so please don't ruin the comedic value here of watching these guys flail about, thanks. 😉

 

[BoberFett]

Blah blah blah stupid bullshit snipped

Poor kage69, it must be so hard being part of an oppressed religion...

 

[Retro Rob]

This argument is still retarded.

There is BET and yet being black is NOT a religion, is it? If a catholic is an actor does that mean that acting has anything to do with her religion?

How about hospitals and schools? How about if a Lutheran drives a car, does that make driving a car a Lutheran practice?

Atheists do all sorts of things for their own reasons, that doesn't redefine what atheist means which is still just not-theist (literally, that is what it literally means).

SOME atheists like to go to conventions or hold conventions for like minded people, some scientists like that, some car enthusiast do the same, this does not make it a religion.

There isn't actually a single thing you can use to define all atheists as a group except not-theist.

Ok, well why does atheism have it's own channel (coming soon) and people who don't collect stamps, don't?

 

[BoberFett]

This argument is still retarded.

There is BET and yet being black is NOT a religion, is it? If a catholic is an actor does that mean that acting has anything to do with her religion?

How about hospitals and schools? How about if a Lutheran drives a car, does that make driving a car a Lutheran practice?

Atheists do all sorts of things for their own reasons, that doesn't redefine what atheist means which is still just not-theist (literally, that is what it literally means).

SOME atheists like to go to conventions or hold conventions for like minded people, some scientists like that, some car enthusiast do the same, this does not make it a religion.

There isn't actually a single thing you can use to define all atheists as a group except not-theist.

Please list the features of a religion.

 

[Subyman]

Seems kind of pointless, especially when its not even on cable.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Ok, well why does atheism have it's own channel (coming soon) and people who don't collect stamps, don't?

Because some atheist saw it prudent to start one. I actually don't know what the channel will be about and i cannot comment on something i don't know.

Maybe it's like the Atheist Experience? They talk about all sorts of things but the most entertaining is when some religious nutter calls in, that is pure entertainment.

Why is there a science channel?

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Please list the features of a religion.

I previously asked you what your definition of religion is.

You have yet to reply but once you do we can understand why you believe that having a TV channel makes something a religion.

I'd go with a specific set of beliefs, practice and doctrine that all members in the religion adhere to. Personally i think there has to be some sort of metaphysical element in the beliefs to qualify but i'd be ok if you don't think so.

 

[Retro Rob]

Because some atheist saw it prudent to start one. I actually don't know what the channel will be about and i cannot comment on something i don't know.

Maybe it's like the Atheist Experience? They talk about all sorts of things but the most entertaining is when some religious nutter calls in, that is pure entertainment.

Why is there a science channel?

Science doesn't claim to be the opposite of something, so that is a illegitimate comparison, Einstein...and science isn't inherently "non-belief".

Secondly, the channel isn't a radio program that encourages listeners to call in for debate -- it's a channel specifically designed to reinforced non-belief.

How in the hell can you reinforce non-stamp collecting?

 

[UberNeuman]

Will they have cartoons?

\people still watch tv?

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Science doesn't claim to be the opposite of something, so that is a illegitimate comparison, Einstein...and science isn't inherently "non-belief".

Secondly, the channel isn't a radio program that encourages listeners to call in for debate -- it's a channel specifically designed to reinforced non-belief.

How in the hell can you reinforce non-stamp collecting?

Wait... What? Science per definition is "not-belief". Anything unscientific would be the opposite of science, would it not?

Where did you get that from? If that is what the channel is about then i don't get it either.

 

[Retro Rob]

Wait... What? Science per definition is "not-belief". Anything unscientific would be the opposite of science, would it not?

Science only means knowledge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

Where did you get that from? If that is what the channel is about then i don't get it either.

The channel will air video of previous atheist events, such as footage from past American Atheist conventions and speakers at 2012's Reason Rally in Washington, D.C., as well as content provided by atheist video bloggers and other atheist groups

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/05/09/atheist-television-channel/8891455/


This is clear atheism reinforcement.

 

[Orignal Earl]

Please list the features of a religion.

It has to go through the Lemon test

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lemon_v._Kurtzman

 

[BoberFett]

I previously asked you what your definition of religion is.

You have yet to reply but once you do we can understand why you believe that having a TV channel makes something a religion.

I'd go with a specific set of beliefs, practice and doctrine that all members in the religion adhere to. Personally i think there has to be some sort of metaphysical element in the beliefs to qualify but i'd be ok if you don't think so.

It's so adorable when new users think they're being clever, saying something that hasn't been said before. Please point to anywhere I claimed that by itself, having a TV channel made something a religion. If you cannot, do us a solid and leave before your post count hits triple digits.

"specific set of beliefs, practice and doctrine that all members in the religion adhere to"

By your own definition, there are zero religions.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

Science only means knowledge:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science

Yes, and knowledge is not-belief. If you have a belief but you find a way to objectively verify it it becomes knowledge.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2014/05/09/atheist-television-channel/8891455/


This is clear atheism reinforcement.

Is it? I think not. I don't really get the whole thing but i don't think you are correct on this. I've never had a problem with being an atheist but i do realize that for some people it's a very problematic position because of their family and community's religious values, it would make sense to me that these people would want to form a group to talk to others about their experiences.

I don't think that makes it a religion, i don't think it does anything but show other atheists that they are not alone and that the group exists. I sincerely don't think that they are trying to de-convert anyone either.

 

[MasterOfUsers]

It's so adorable when new users think they're being clever, saying something that hasn't been said before. Please point to anywhere I claimed that by itself, having a TV channel made something a religion. If you cannot, do us a solid and leave before your post count hits triple digits.

"specific set of beliefs, practice and doctrine that all members in the religion adhere to"

By your own definition, there are zero religions.

It's also very boring to watch some people try to form a coherent argument when they lack the mental faculties to do so and instead resort to ad-hom's and trolling.

You asked me for my definition, i gave it to you. I've asked you for your definition and you have yet to give it.

I'd say that the central beliefs, practice and doctrine in Christianity, Hinduism and Islam are things that all members of the respective religions adhere to.

Do you think that i'm mistaken?

 

[Retro Rob]

Yes, and knowledge is not-belief. If you have a belief but you find a way to objectively verify it it becomes knowledge.

What do you mean by "knowledge"?

I can "know" that my wife is a good wife now, while believing she will remain that way. Knowledge and belief can co-exists.

 

[kage69]

Poor kage69, it must be so hard being part of an oppressed religion...

Ugh, now you're just abusing yourself... 🙁


I'd ask you to explain what this strange "oppressed religion" thing is, as here in the US I can't think of a single one, but I'm sure that would just result in more of this non answer fapping of yours. Likewise for that little notion we refer to as 'the burden of proof.'

Please. Wipe yourself off and get a fucking clue, it's just getting sad now.

 

[BoberFett]

It's also very boring to watch some people try to form a coherent argument when they lack the mental faculties to do so and instead resort to ad-hom's and trolling.

You asked me for my definition, i gave it to you. I've asked you for your definition and you have yet to give it.

I'd say that the central beliefs, practice and doctrine in Christianity, Hinduism and Islam are things that all members of the respective religions adhere to.

Do you think that i'm mistaken?

If all members of a religion had the same central beliefs, there'd be no splits in religion. Martin Luther wouldn't have been cast out of the Catholic church. The Sunnis and Shiites wouldn't be killing each other.

I define religion as: An organization dedicated to provide a place of belonging and discussion for people of similar beliefs regarding the nature of life and the universe.

A few people might find home repair or sports the answer to deeper philosophical questions in life and consider ESPN and HGTV to be religious stations. But I doubt it.

I'd go with a specific set of beliefs, practice and doctrine that all members in the religion adhere to. Personally i think there has to be some sort of metaphysical element in the beliefs to qualify but i'd be ok if you don't think so.

Just based on your first sentence, that would make baseball a religion. Of course we know that's not what you're going for, so you included the metaphysical stipulation. So then is Buddhism a religion?

On the other hand, a channel where atheists can sit around and discuss such fantastic and almost-too-crazy-sounding-to-be-true topics such as multiverse theories, and will no doubt feature shows with prominent atheists such as Dawkins who actively try to recruit people to his way of thinking by mocking other religions... sorry, mocking religions... Yes, it does sound to me like a religious channel.

 

[ch33zw1z]

lol, an entire channel? I find this a bit overzealous. I can see a debate/presentation hour or something like that, but not an entire channel.

 

[BoberFett]

I'd ask you to explain what this strange "oppressed religion" thing is, as here in the US I can't think of a single one, but I'm sure that would just result in more of this non answer fapping of yours.

You're pretty dim.

Atheists frequently complain about being oppressed.

But strangely I have yet to hear about anyone complain about being oppressed because they don't collect stamps.

 

[ch33zw1z]

You're pretty dim.

Atheists frequently complain about being oppressed.

But strangely I have yet to hear about anyone complain about being oppressed because they don't collect stamps.

Christians don't care if you collect stamps. But they sure care if you don't believe the same thing as them.