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Atari VCS

Skel

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Seems Atari is coming back with a new console. This looks like it'll be more an emulator they hope people will start to develop on than a full blown newer gen console. While they claim it'll be something game devs can use (it's also using our tried and true PC parts like everyone else) it's still 90% the old 2600 games.
 

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Seems Atari is coming back with a new console. This looks like it'll be more an emulator they hope people will start to develop on than a full blown newer gen console. While they claim it'll be something game devs can use (it's also using our tried and true PC parts like everyone else) it's still 90% the old 2600 games.
In other words, all the games on it will be games you can already get on PC or modern consoles. There are no new games attached to the console or developers who have announced support. The "console" is going to do nothing current consoles don't already do, while missing features like a proper disc drive.They haven't "locked down" the hardware - which is a really bad thing with how close it is to its purported release - but I heard they were going with an AMD Bristol Ridge APU. AKA Bulldozer's last hurrah combined with a tiny Polaris GPU, aka going to run hot and have less graphics power than even the lower priced Xbox One S.

There's going to be no reason to buy this, unless you really like real wood grain veneer. And that's not even getting into how at this point it seems like snake oil only marginally more real than the Coleco Chameleon, as they have yet to actually show a working model at a trade show.

It's a slick design, I'll give it that. But good design alone does not a good console make.
 

Skel

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This should be about as popular as Steam boxes were...

...or less.
Soooo have it's fans spend years telling us how this will destroy Sony and Microsoft only to silently fizzle out when no one cares?
 

Red Hawk

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Soooo have it's fans spend years telling us how this will destroy Sony and Microsoft only to silently fizzle out when no one cares?
Seems like it.

They could have made Steam Box a thing. If they had:

-Locked it down a to a few manufacturing partners and SKUs no more expensive than $1,000;
-Put their development force behind it. Make Half Life 3 exclusive to Steam Box, and make a whole wave of new Valve games exclusive to Steam Box. Or, at least, exclusive to SteamOS/Linux.

Yes, that would have been risky. Yes, that would have made the Steam Boxes less like PCs. Yes, that would have sacrificed their Windows game business and probably pissed off a lot of PC players who wouldn't see it as worth the jump. .

But nothing ventured, nothing gained. Didn't people who wanted gaming PCs already have them? And if they were putting a console-esque ecosystem out there without console-style exclusives to support it, they might as well have not tried at all. If one goal was also to undermine Windows, provide an alternative to it, wouldn't removing support from Windows further that goal?

Not saying I would have wanted Valve to do any of that, It's just that if they really wanted Steam Box to be a thing, they needed to bet a lot more chips on it. They put a halfhearted effort into it, and got a halfbaked product in return.
 
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They haven't even shown any games and this thing is supposed to release the end of next month or end of sept??
Yeah right!!
I got duped with the ouya thing but they wont get me again.
I will stick to my Xbox consoles and PC gaming until I see some kind of proof and lots of reviews.
 

Skel

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They haven't even shown any games and this thing is supposed to release the end of next month or end of sept??
Yeah right!!
I got duped with the ouya thing but they wont get me again.
I will stick to my Xbox consoles and PC gaming until I see some kind of proof and lots of reviews.
I'm not sure if they changed it, but the site shows it won't be around until July of 2019. They've also shown games.. just the very very told Atari games that you can get elsewhere for much cheaper. I doubt this thing will go anywhere. The only thing the ouya did right was finally shut off the people that kept swearing that Android was going replace everything. I remember the thread on here that it's fans were arguing that the ouya was going to put not only all the current console makers out of business, but also the PC market.
 
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I'm not sure if they changed it, but the site shows it won't be around until July of 2019. They've also shown games.. just the very very told Atari games that you can get elsewhere for much cheaper. I doubt this thing will go anywhere. The only thing the ouya did right was finally shut off the people that kept swearing that Android was going replace everything. I remember the thread on here that it's fans were arguing that the ouya was going to put not only all the current console makers out of business, but also the PC market.
Wow didn't know they pushed it back a full year.. At this point i am thinking this is gonna be vaporware and i dont count old school roms as showing off games. I was referring to the supposed Atari Exclusives that they keep bragging about but havent shown not even a single screen shot of even a concept art pic, let alone screen shots of any beta.
Even when ouya was an idea they posted concept art of the console and of game beta's.
I would say if your gonna spend $300-$500 any way just purchase a mainstream console or top end GPU and be set and know your not getting screwed over!!
 

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Well, this is out now. It is sort of in the cheaper range of the Raven2-class embeddeds that I have saw.

R1505G:
Asrock retail: $249.99
Gigabyte retail: $249.99

R1305G:
HP retail >$399
Maxtang retail ~$399

Getting the console thus R1606G only at $299 in between that seems fair imho.

Eyeballing the 3200u/3250u laptops/desktops/mini-pcs makes the $299 price seem like chump change. Especially, with the whole no SO-DIMM, only soldered fiasco to even get into the VCS price target.
 
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NTMBK

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Well, this is out now. It is sort of in the cheaper range of the Raven2-class embeddeds that I have saw.

R1505G:
Asrock retail: $249.99
Gigabyte retail: $249.99

R1305G:
HP retail >$399
Maxtang retail ~$399

Getting the console thus R1606G only at $299 in between that seems fair imho.

Eyeballing the 3200u/3250u laptops/desktops/mini-pcs makes the $299 price seem like chump change. Especially, with the whole no SO-DIMM, only soldered fiasco to even get into the VCS price target.
It's weird that they styled it after a game console, when it's definitely a PC that comes with some preinstalled games. Would make more sense if it looked like the Atari ST.
 

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It's weird that they styled it after a game console, when it's definitely a PC that comes with some preinstalled games. Would make more sense if it looked like the Atari ST.
Yeah, let's go and tell sony and MS that they are doing it all wrong these last 6-7 years.
The only distinction between console and PC ever since the PS4 is the software you can run on it.

But I do agree, they should have made it much much cheaper by going with a Pi/arm cpu making it also much smaller giving it a cuter retro case, well it's cute enough but it would be smaller so...cuter.
Basically a mini snes/ps1 but atari, making a custom atari miniPC is just asking to fail.
 

NTMBK

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Yeah, let's go and tell sony and MS that they are doing it all wrong these last 6-7 years.
The only distinction between console and PC ever since the PS4 is the software you can run on it.

But I do agree, they should have made it much much cheaper by going with a Pi/arm cpu making it also much smaller giving it a cuter retro case, well it's cute enough but it would be smaller so...cuter.
Basically a mini snes/ps1 but atari, making a custom atari miniPC is just asking to fail.
I wasn't referring to the underlying architecture, I was referring to the fact that the software runs a full Linux desktop. It's not just a games console.
 

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Never too late to play with your atari.
Meh, I had an Atari 800XL, was the first computer i learned to program on (atari basic), by modding games hacked from cart to floppy. I had two floppy drives and wico red ball joysticks... gave the whole set away to a friend, haven't missed it yet. I did think about converting the joysticks to USB for PC use, but then decided the friend would benefit more having them as the 800XL didn't come with any atari joysticks.

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Meh, I had an Atari 800XL, was the first computer i learned to program on (atari basic), by modding games hacked from cart to floppy. I had two floppy drives and wico red ball joysticks... gave the whole set away to a friend, haven't missed it yet. I did think about converting the joysticks to USB for PC use, but then decided the friend would benefit more having them as the 800XL didn't come with any atari joysticks.

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Haha I remember the wico, extra durable, extra huge with a useless button on top.
Those sucked and were awesome simultaneously.
For the younger folks choice was:
A comfortable plastic & rubber joystick that would break after a few months
or
Even cheaper plastic & rubber unbranded sticks that would break in a few weeks plus be unresponsive
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A industrial over sized metal & abs plastic joystick that worked okay but literally couldn’t be broken
 

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