yea theres some crazy lag here right now everywhere in every instance especially looting, its pretty fun
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Well my server is back up, but only some people seem to be able to move. This is complete fail. Glad they decided to fuck WoW up on Aion release day. I'm sure that helped a lot of people make the choice.
Oh, and the AV xp nerf was an accident. They had intended to put it in later, but "oops, we put it in anyway". I love the reason for it too.
Oh, and the AV xp nerf was an accident. They had intended to put it in later, but "oops, we put it in anyway". I love the reason for it too.
Aikouka
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Heh, doing Onyxia now. Deep Breath is a little bit different and she seems to adjust the angle at the last second sort of like Mimiron does with his Spinning Up (only a slight adjustment). One interesting thing is that there's so much more for ranged to do and melee cannot attack Onyxia in the air now... or at least none of us could.
Yes, I am seriously doubting that the procs will be good enough. They weren't that good back in the day. The only reason I had vis'kag is because my other sword was a bit lower DPS-wise since I could never get that sword off Garr (I eventually did).
I like flat numbers... I'm not a huge fan of an item that just has a proc on it like Vis'kag.
I'm still going to complain that they're somewhat worthless if they're not part of a set. There's a chance that they may be good enough to be that elusive 5th piece, but I doubt it.... It'd be nifty if it could be sort of like Sunwell how they could be some sort of additional piece or something.
Yes, I know that you still gain from going past the no crit cap... but why? In my experiences, tank trinkets that randomly proc aren't as good because you cannot time them with dangerous situations. You may like it otherwise and that's fine... chances are it won't affect you.
I need to find out where to put it on my action bar first
(it's on there, but way up on the second row near the right... in a non keybound spot). I can configure DoTimer pretty easily to add it in (already did). I haven't glyphed it yet, but I'll do that later. I'm also going to buy my new totem.
EDIT:
Hmmm I did Northrend Beasts and Flame Shock did a total of 4.8% of my damage where Earth Shock did 7.2% of my damage... this is unglyphed though.
I calculated the difference I would've had if my 23 Flame Shocks would've been Earth Shocks. I would've had 40809 damage with normal hits and 53930 damage from crits. Given that Flame Shock did 43930 direct damage and 61018 damage from the DoT, that means it is definitely better by a small margin ( 10.77% more damage ). I still have to glyph it though, but is it definitely better than Lightning Shield?
Let's do the math!
Lightning Shield had 52 procs for an average of 1990. Without the 20% boost, it would be 1658.33 (repeating of course) damage. That means the boost gave me 17256 more damage over the course of Northrend Beasts.
Based on having 126 flame shock dot hits and having 32.11% spell crit right now, I would have 40.4586 of those crit. Given that spell crits deal 50% more damage, I would gain 29372.9436 damage. So I guess it is better!
EDIT 2:
Ugh, a bit of a pain re-learning to weave Flame Shock in. I haven't used Flame Shock in my priority rotation since BC!
Originally posted by: Jax Omen
A) If the proc gives you the same dps overall as the stats would have, it's not worse. Now, I don't know proc rates on the new versions of the weapons, but the 2.7 speed 1H axe looks amazing (proc is comparable to Bandit's Insignia/DMC
Yes, I am seriously doubting that the procs will be good enough. They weren't that good back in the day. The only reason I had vis'kag is because my other sword was a bit lower DPS-wise since I could never get that sword off Garr (I eventually did).
I like flat numbers... I'm not a huge fan of an item that just has a proc on it like Vis'kag.
I'm still going to complain that they're somewhat worthless if they're not part of a set. There's a chance that they may be good enough to be that elusive 5th piece, but I doubt it.... It'd be nifty if it could be sort of like Sunwell how they could be some sort of additional piece or something.
Yes, I know that you still gain from going past the no crit cap... but why? In my experiences, tank trinkets that randomly proc aren't as good because you cannot time them with dangerous situations. You may like it otherwise and that's fine... chances are it won't affect you.
Originally posted by: Jax Omen
D) I'm strongly looking forward to glyphing Flame Shock and weaving FS>ES>ES once again. yet another way I can be better than every other Enhancement Shaman on my server
I need to find out where to put it on my action bar first
(it's on there, but way up on the second row near the right... in a non keybound spot). I can configure DoTimer pretty easily to add it in (already did). I haven't glyphed it yet, but I'll do that later. I'm also going to buy my new totem.EDIT:
Hmmm I did Northrend Beasts and Flame Shock did a total of 4.8% of my damage where Earth Shock did 7.2% of my damage... this is unglyphed though.
I calculated the difference I would've had if my 23 Flame Shocks would've been Earth Shocks. I would've had 40809 damage with normal hits and 53930 damage from crits. Given that Flame Shock did 43930 direct damage and 61018 damage from the DoT, that means it is definitely better by a small margin ( 10.77% more damage ). I still have to glyph it though, but is it definitely better than Lightning Shield?
Let's do the math!
Lightning Shield had 52 procs for an average of 1990. Without the 20% boost, it would be 1658.33 (repeating of course
) damage. That means the boost gave me 17256 more damage over the course of Northrend Beasts.Based on having 126 flame shock dot hits and having 32.11% spell crit right now, I would have 40.4586 of those crit. Given that spell crits deal 50% more damage, I would gain 29372.9436 damage. So I guess it is better!
EDIT 2:
Ugh, a bit of a pain re-learning to weave Flame Shock in. I haven't used Flame Shock in my priority rotation since BC!
lupi
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saw the koda drop today on the main, was when server goign to shit again so i see some askign what to loot as and I have no idea what cause loot screen didn't show for me till a mintue or so later. Then we all sat there for another 2 minutes waiting to see whom won.
but I did win the BOE mace today.
but I did win the BOE mace today.
Only had time to do 10 man Onyxia yesterday. Talk about a quick way to get 3 triumph emblems. Won the bag of gems thing, nothing else dropped that I could use.
Doc Savage Fan
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We did 25 man last night and there was only one gem in the Bag of Gems. I'm thinking they need to change the name to the Bag of One Stinking Gem.
I know back in the day only instants could hit ony while she was flying. Auto-attacks don't hit her. We typically put the highest dps rogues on her with ranged and everybody else had whelp duty.
OMG is it me or does onyxia deep breath more this patch? (sorry I had to)
I ended up doing PUG for 10 Onyxia before the server crashed. I believe the melee can hit the boss. We had enough dps we only went through one whelp spawn in the air phase. The fight is simple as could be. We got the deep breath achieve. I don't like any of the loot that drops, save for the bag and the gems. Got the bag myself and ended up rolling a 100 on the quest item. Gave that to friend though.
Another thing I noticed, skinning the mobs (despite them being level 80) they dropped rugged hides. Maybe a bug, or intended? As far as instant only, I didn't have any problem casting steady shot as a hunter.
I am debating whether I want to t9 shoulders, which I can buy today (finally got a trophy!) or save up and buy the legs. My legs are t7.5 and my shoulders aer t8, so the legs would be a bigger upgrade but both are substanital. The only reason I hold off on the legs is they drop in VoA25 and I wouldn't want to waste a trophy.
Another thing I noticed, skinning the mobs (despite them being level 80) they dropped rugged hides. Maybe a bug, or intended? As far as instant only, I didn't have any problem casting steady shot as a hunter.
I am debating whether I want to t9 shoulders, which I can buy today (finally got a trophy!) or save up and buy the legs. My legs are t7.5 and my shoulders aer t8, so the legs would be a bigger upgrade but both are substanital. The only reason I hold off on the legs is they drop in VoA25 and I wouldn't want to waste a trophy.
AyashiKaibutsu
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I soloed her enough times to fill my bank bag and normal bag slots. You could autoattack and hit her with instant melee attacks. I did 10 man yesterday and couldn't do either.
Onyxia's deepbreath never changes direction it's not targeted on a person... It always goes directly across the room, and is completely dependant on where she is in the room not which direction she's facing. If she's in the north, it'll go straight south. If she's in the southeast, it'll go straight across northwest; etc.
I personally think she deep breaths less than when they changed it the first time.
Onyxia's deepbreath never changes direction it's not targeted on a person... It always goes directly across the room, and is completely dependant on where she is in the room not which direction she's facing. If she's in the north, it'll go straight south. If she's in the southeast, it'll go straight across northwest; etc.
I personally think she deep breaths less than when they changed it the first time.
AyashiKaibutsu
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It is a tier 9 encounter, but it's not too gear intensive... The time we downed it in 10 3 people died to breath (sigh) and another 4 people were gibbed by a warder when a tank died just as we entered phase 3 and we did phase 3 with 1 tank 1 healer and 1 dps.
If you're pugging then generally you take 1000 off your gearscore to figure out how useful you'll likely be so to them they might think you're just heroic geared.
Even though it is a t9 encounter, I liken it to a EoE. There is almost no trash, and the boss is retard easy. They PUG I did, we had 2 healers and 1 tank. It can be done by anyone not completely retarded (which I know is hard to find). I don't know if there is an enrage timer though, but I don't believe there is.
AyashiKaibutsu
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Yea, I was trying to say it's easy if you're not retarded. If you can't be bothered to look up and see where she is and move in the appropriate direction though, you're going to die every time, which is sadly probably the majority of people who play wow.
Well, last night was a good night to not play WOW. New patch + server instability + heroic OK as the daily (LOL) = other, better things to do.
Oh, and I was at least right about one thing...Druids do gain AP from AGI...in cat form at least.
Oh, and I was at least right about one thing...Druids do gain AP from AGI...in cat form at least.
Aikouka
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Originally posted by: Doc Savage Fan
We did 25 man last night and there was only one gem in the Bag of Gems. I'm thinking they need to change the name to the Bag of One Stinking Gem.
We only got one gem as well.
It also unlocks more often. In fact, Onyxia will unlock today so you can get even more Emblems of Triumph.
Onyxia is now a heroic basically? Welfare gear wtf? I guess now I'll have both my T9 pieces before I thought.
They brought all the servers down this morning again and fixed the Ony rest bug among other things, its 7 days like everything else
we got 1 gem from the 25 man gem sac and 3 from the 10 man gem sac
we got 1 gem from the 25 man gem sac and 3 from the 10 man gem sac
I logged in at lunch and checked: confirmed it was 7 day lock out. Too bad, I was already planning on buying another T9 piece sooner than expected. Figuring full clears of ToC10/25, VoA 10/25, and Ony 10/25, I think you end up with around 54 badges a week counting doing the daily every day. That will mean, it will take forever for me to get the 150 I'll need for pants and chest after I buy my shoulders tonight. =(
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