AT World of Warcraft Thread (Mists, Where do you play, General BS and all that)

[Phoenix86]

It's probably shadow unit frames, maybe grid. Anything that touches the UI often breaks on the pre-xpack patch.

I'm going to nuke all my addons/setting this week, I have a few odd issues too.

 

[Xonim]

It's probably shadow unit frames, maybe grid. Anything that touches the UI often breaks on the pre-xpack patch.

I'm going to nuke all my addons/setting this week, I have a few odd issues too.

Yeah I'm going to guess it's probably grid. There's still something not right with it, if there's an icon in the center of the frame (I usually have magic/poison/disease debuffs there on my healer), I can't target that player
unless I click AROUND the center icon.

 

[lupi]

did some reading on the bloom effect, looks like the option was taken out of the game and while you can do a command line type change, seems you would have to enter it every time as the game wipes it on each restart.

 

[SithSolo1]

So after clearing BT last night on my human warrior I'm now the owner of a pair of Warglaives. YaY!

 

[lupi]

One thing I haven't done yet is farming the legendaries. Probably will start looking into it more as I knock off a couple more of the old raid mounts.

 

[lupi]

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[Hacp]

I just started my account back up. Hopefully this time Blizzard creates more content.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

One thing I haven't done yet is farming the legendaries. Probably will start looking into it more as I knock off a couple more of the old raid mounts.

That's been my main thing for a while now. I'm two weeks away from my Firelands Legendary staff. I got insanely lucky on my Monk and had both bindings of the windseeker drop in one run.

I need to start hitting up MC again for sulfuras and need to hit up BT.

 

[Aikouka]

Like usual, I ordered the collector's edition for the expansion, and I'd like to get at least one character up to 90. I think wasting a 90 boost on an 85 seems like a waste, so I'd rather just level a character (or characters). Well, what I'm wondering is whether there's any good resource to essentially give me a lowdown on what's changed over the course of Mists of Pandaria. I pretty much quit after beating H-Dragon Soul, and while I did a few quests in Pandaria, I just wasn't all that interested. I read a few patch notes every now and again, but nothing extensive enough to give me an idea of what was changing. I do know of some of the new features coming in... or at least the major ones (e.g. Garrisons).

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Like usual, I ordered the collector's edition for the expansion, and I'd like to get at least one character up to 90. I think wasting a 90 boost on an 85 seems like a waste, so I'd rather just level a character (or characters). Well, what I'm wondering is whether there's any good resource to essentially give me a lowdown on what's changed over the course of Mists of Pandaria. I pretty much quit after beating H-Dragon Soul, and while I did a few quests in Pandaria, I just wasn't all that interested. I read a few patch notes every now and again, but nothing extensive enough to give me an idea of what was changing. I do know of some of the new features coming in... or at least the major ones (e.g. Garrisons).

Meh pick something you like. Basically everything that changed in MoP is no longer viable since it was such a huge revamp again with patch 6.0

 

[Chacotako]

Just started my account back up and looking to change my rogue back to Horde. I just don't know whether I want to go undead or orc.... decisions decisions

 

[BoberFett]

Leveling is uber fast now. I haven't had much motivation to play my 90s since the patch, so I went back to leveling my rogue. My daughter and I ground out a bunch of levels a couple weeks ago, and yesterday I took him from 81 to 85 just going through Hyjal and doing a couple random dungeons. Granted, I did have a lot of rest XP. Going to head to Pandaria with him tomorrow, I hear leveling from 85 to 90 is incredibly fast now too.

 

[lupi]

Just started my account back up and looking to change my rogue back to Horde. I just don't know whether I want to go undead or orc.... decisions decisions

that would have been about 25% off a week ago

 

[Chacotako]

that would have been about 25% off a week ago

Yeah, so I've heard. For me that's par for the course

 

[Xonim]

Legendaries would be so much cooler if you could xmog them. Or at least make them semi-useful again somehow -- even just basic scaled level stats like stam/agi but without crit/haste/mastery, enough where you might use them out in the world but not in groups/raids/pvp. Then again, I suppose every rogue/warrior/whatever would be xmog'd to glaives -- I know I would. The attack animations on those things are so cool, but you can't really use them for anything =/

I got a main hand glaive my first run of BT -- which I was just doing for fun because I'd never been there -- so I had to keep running until I got the OH. I think I got it late in Cataclysm after 10-12 runs. I also got lucky with a Hand of Rag on my paladin that has full judgement. That's another set + weapon that looks like it just belongs, but it's so useless!

 

[Phoenix86]

It'd be glaives and TF everywhere.

 

[robvp]

Legendaries would be so much cooler if you could xmog them. Or at least make them semi-useful again somehow -- even just basic scaled level stats like stam/agi but without crit/haste/mastery, enough where you might use them out in the world but not in groups/raids/pvp. Then again, I suppose every rogue/warrior/whatever would be xmog'd to glaives -- I know I would. The attack animations on those things are so cool, but you can't really use them for anything =/

I got a main hand glaive my first run of BT -- which I was just doing for fun because I'd never been there -- so I had to keep running until I got the OH. I think I got it late in Cataclysm after 10-12 runs. I also got lucky with a Hand of Rag on my paladin that has full judgement. That's another set + weapon that looks like it just belongs, but it's so useless!

If only they could implement a quest system to upgrade your old legendary, like getting rare drops from raid bosses and hard to get materials akin to the original effort to get the legendary when it was current

 

[BoberFett]

I knew you couldn't xmog the legendary itself, but you can't xmog other items into the legendary either? That's rather a bummer.

 

[ibex333]

Guys... What is the state of World of Warcraft right now? Did it get a graphics refresh since it's original release? Does it still heavily favor clan/team play over solo?

Is it possible to get good items playing solo and have a ton of fun? I don't have any friends who play and I got no time to play with a clan or a guild. Will my game experience suffer because of that?

Are there classes that are great for solo play and do not require support?

I never played WoW before and I am wondering if I should bother now.

Thanks very much.

 

[AznAnarchy99]

Guys... What is the state of World of Warcraft right now? Did it get a graphics refresh since it's original release? Yes Does it still heavily favor clan/team play over solo? Sorta, there's raid and dungeon finder now.

Is it possible to get good items playing solo and have a ton of fun? Yes I don't have any friends who play and I got no time to play with a clan or a guild. Will my game experience suffer because of that? Nah. I don't either. I play on my own time.

Are there classes that are great for solo play and do not require support? Hunter, Druid, DK

I never played WoW before and I am wondering if I should bother now.

Thanks very much.

Try the trial and see if you like it.

 

[Chacotako]

So can someone give me a quick rundown of how gear will work in WoD? I have both a rogue and druid, but I'm having I tough time deciding what I'm going to play. Will it be viable to roll with one set of gear for multiple specs? If that's the case, I don't see myself bothering with the rogue. Forgive me if this has already been discussed.

 

[SithSolo1]

So can someone give me a quick rundown of how gear will work in WoD? I have both a rogue and druid, but I'm having I tough time deciding what I'm going to play. Will it be viable to roll with one set of gear for multiple specs? If that's the case, I don't see myself bothering with the rogue. Forgive me if this has already been discussed.

I believe that is how it will work.

Say you are feral and you get a chest piece that looks like this(fake numbers):

Chest
465 Armor
54 Agility / 54 Intellect
42 Haste
44 Versatility

As soon as you switch to resto it looks like this:

Chest
465 Armor
54 Intellect / 54 Agility
42 Haste
44 Versatility

So the same item switches the primary stat depending on spec. Now some items may have tertiary stats that are better for one spec or another and those you might have to keep as swap in pieces when you spec change i.e spirit, bonus armor, etc.

 

[Gryz]

Guys... What is the state of World of Warcraft right now?

Your detailed questions deserve a little more detailed response than "just try it".

Did it get a graphics refresh since it's original release?

Yes, the renderer improves slowly over time, with each release. However, it's still the bottom-of-the-bottom, imho. No fancy graphical features. There is shadowing, there is even SSAO or HDAO (but it takes a huge chunk out of your framerates). To our surprise, they took out MSAA this month, and gave us only TXAA or CMAA. Textures are still not very high-res, but surprisingly the textures look pretty smooth. Every expansion pack the world and the models get more polygons. And Blizz has done some remakes here and there (parts of the world in Cataclysm, now new models for many races). As a result, WoW has its own style of graphics. It's not Skyrim or Crysis. But once you get to play it, it isn't as bad as you'd think.

Does it still heavily favor clan/team play over solo?

Depends on what you wanna achieve.
In vanilla WoW, the only thing to achieve was better gear. You could get blue gear by solo-play, or doing 5-10-15 man dungeons, even in pugs. That was it. To get better gear, you had to join a guild to do 40-man raiding. Or you could do PvP in BattleGrounds.
Nowadays the situation is completely different.
You can get good gear by soloing, by doing 5-mans, even in pugs, and by doing LFR raiding (Looking For Raid, an in-game pug queuing mechanism). This gear will allow to you kill all mobs in the outside world easily. However, it will not be the best gear. Best gear comes from raiding. However, raiding itself has become much easier. Raids are now flexible 10-25 people. And cross-realm. Per-group lockouts don't exists anymore. That means that guilds will probably be much more relaxed on who they recruit, and what they expect from guildmembers. I expect that even if you don't want to commit to fixed raid-hours where you have to show up, you can still join a guild and raid with them when you want.
Only the highest level of gear requires old-fashioned raiding. Called mythic raiding. 20-man fixed-sized groups. No cross-realm. Don't worry about that. I expect <10% of players to even attempt mythic.

Is it possible to get good items playing solo and have a ton of fun?

Yep. See above, you can get very decent items with soloing or doing small-group content (like pugging 5-man heroics via LFD).
But more importantly, there is a lot more to do now. You can still raid or do BattleGrounds. PvP now has arenas and rated-battlegrounds. Those require a fixed team (2, 3 or 5 man for arena, 10 or 15 for RBGs). You can collect mounts. You can collect pets. You can do battle-pet fights (I'm doing those now, and to my surprise, it's more fun that I thought). You can do "achievements". There is still a huge world to explore (exploration has always been my favorite thing in games). Although not much to find, and no rewards. Just the thrill of riding around on a mount for hours and hours in new vistas. There are professions (although made easy, and not very rewarding anymore). You can play the AH to collect millions of gold (not my thing, but some people enjoy this more than the game itself). And then there are alts.

I don't have any friends who play and I got no time to play with a clan or a guild. Will my game experience suffer because of that?

A little bit. In the past, some servers were very empty, and leveling was a very lonely experience. Nowadays, we have Cross-Realm Zones (players from multiple realms all playing in the same instance of a zone, like e.g. The Barrens). And low-pop servers got merged into medium/high-pop servers. The world feels pretty active these days.
I still advise you to find a guild. Guildies can craft stuff for you cheap (enchants, etc) if you don't have the professions. Guildchat might be a bit entertaining while leveling. And you never know, you might even do some raiding with your guild later. 5-mans are done via LFD these days. Maybe only in the first month will 5-mans require an organized group.

Are there classes that are great for solo play and do not require support?

All classes have 3 specs (druids have 4 even). And they all have at least 1 spec for "damage dealer" (called "dps" in WoW). Leveling in dps-spec is roughly the same for all classes. Each class can have 2 "chosen" specs, of which one is active. And you can switch between them any time, any where you want.
However, when you get to endgame content (5man dungeons, raiding), there is an abundance of dps. So pure dps classes have a hard(er) time to find guilds or raid-groups. Or even pugs (when not using the LFR/LFD tools). I would suggest you pick a hybrid class. Also noteworthy, ranged dps is sought after twice as much as melee dps. Rogues (only dps, only melee) are the most useless class there is. Unfortunately I play a rogue since WoW as my main ..... If I had known, I'd play a druid or paladin.

Recommended:
Druid: tank, healing, melee dps, ranged dps.
Paladin: tank, healing, melee dps.
Shaman: healer, melee dps, ranged dps.
Priest: healer, ranged dps.
Monk: tank, healer, melee dps.

Less recommended:
DK: tank, melee dps. Need a lvl55 char to create a DK. Not popular in the community. But DKs are the best soloing class.
Warrior: tank, melee dps. Good tank. But there is an abundance of warrior players.
Mage, warlock, hunter: all ranged dps only.

Not recommended:
Rogue: melee dps only.

I never played WoW before and I am wondering if I should bother now.

WoW is like heroin.
I wasted way too much time on it.
I stopped playing 5 weeks ago. Planning to cold turkey. I spent so much time reading online about the new expansion, that I thought "if I spend this much time on reading about WoW, why not play it" ? Yesterday I resubscribed. And I will play at least another month in the new expansion.

You can play the free version of WoW. But it won't give a good impression on what the game is. You can not chat with people. You can not sell/buy on the AH. You can not exchange items or gold with others. You will only see the starter areas. You will still have no idea about endgame. It might give you the wrong impressions (boring, lonely, easy game), while that might not be true later on.

Hope this helps.

 

[lupi]

the only items where that won't apply is those limited items with spirit on it. think those are treated as a secondary stat and don't change based on spec so the non healer spec would lose some small amount of stat allocation the spirit is using up.

 

[ibex333]

Your detailed questions deserve a little more detailed response than "just try it".

Yes, the renderer improves slowly over time, with each release. However, it's still the bottom-of-the-bottom, imho. No fancy graphical features. There is shadowing, there is even SSAO or HDAO (but it takes a huge chunk out of your framerates). To our surprise, they took out MSAA this month, and gave us only TXAA or CMAA. Textures are still not very high-res, but surprisingly the textures look pretty smooth. Every expansion pack the world and the models get more polygons. And Blizz has done some remakes here and there (parts of the world in Cataclysm, now new models for many races). As a result, WoW has its own style of graphics. It's not Skyrim or Crysis. But once you get to play it, it isn't as bad as you'd think.

Depends on what you wanna achieve.
In vanilla WoW, the only thing to achieve was better gear. You could get blue gear by solo-play, or doing 5-10-15 man dungeons, even in pugs. That was it. To get better gear, you had to join a guild to do 40-man raiding. Or you could do PvP in BattleGrounds.
Nowadays the situation is completely different.
You can get good gear by soloing, by doing 5-mans, even in pugs, and by doing LFR raiding (Looking For Raid, an in-game pug queuing mechanism). This gear will allow to you kill all mobs in the outside world easily. However, it will not be the best gear. Best gear comes from raiding. However, raiding itself has become much easier. Raids are now flexible 10-25 people. And cross-realm. Per-group lockouts don't exists anymore. That means that guilds will probably be much more relaxed on who they recruit, and what they expect from guildmembers. I expect that even if you want to commit to fixed raid-hours where you have to show up, you can still join a guild and raid with them when you want.
Only the highest level of gear requires old-fashioned raiding. Called mythic raiding. 20-man fixed-sized groups. No cross-realm. Don't worry about that. I expect <10% of players to even attempt mythic.

Yep. See above, you can get very decent items with soloing or doing small-group content (like pugging 5-man heroics via LFD).
But more importantly, there is a lot more to do now. You can still raid or do BattleGrounds. PvP now has arenas and rated-battlegrounds. Those require a fixed team (2, 3 or 5 man for arena, 10 or 15 for RBGs). You can collect mounts. You can collect pets. You can do battle-pet fights (I'm doing those now, and to my surprise, it's more fun that I thought). You can do "achievements". There is still a huge world to explore (exploration has always been my favorite thing in games). Although not much to find, and no rewards. Just the thrill of riding around on a mount for hours and hours in new vistas. There are professions (although made easy, and not very rewarding anymore). You can play the AH to collect millions of gold (not my thing, but some people enjoy this more than the game itself). And then there are alts.

A little bit. In the past, some servers were very empty, and leveling was a very lonely experience. Nowadays, we have Cross-Realm Zones (players from multiple realms all playing in the same instance of a zone, like e.g. The Barrens). And low-pop servers got merged into medium/high-pop servers. The world feels pretty active these days.
I still advise you to find a guild. Guildies can craft stuff for you cheap (enchants, etc) if you don't have the professions. Guildchat might be a bit entertaining while leveling. And you never know, you might even do some raiding with your guild later. 5-mans are done via LFD these days. Maybe only in the first month will 5-mans require an organized group.

All classes have 3 specs (druids have 4 even). And they all have at least 1 spec for "damage dealer" (called "dps" in WoW). Leveling in dps-spec is roughly the same for all classes. Each class can have 2 "chosen" specs, of which one is active. And you can switch between them any time, any where you want.
However, when you get to endgame content (5man dungeons, raiding), there is an abundance of dps. So pure dps classes have a hard(er) time to find guilds or raid-groups. Or even pugs (when not using the LFR/LFD tools). I would suggest you pick a hybrid class. Also noteworthy, ranged dps is sought after twice as much as melee dps. Rogues (only dps, only melee) are the most useless class there is. Unfortunately I play a rogue since WoW as my main ..... If I had known, I'd play a druid or paladin.

Recommended:
Druid: tank, healing, melee dps, ranged dps.
Paladin: tank, healing, melee dps.
Shaman: healer, melee dps, ranged dps.
Priest: healer, ranged dps.
Monk: tank, healer, melee dps.

Less recommended:
DK: tank, melee dps. Need a lvl55 char to create a DK. Not popular in the community. But DKs are the best soloing class.
Warrior: tank, melee dps. Good tank. But there is an abundance of warrior players.
Mage, warlock, hunter: all ranged dps only.

Not recommended:
Rogue: melee dps only.

WoW is like heroin.
I wasted way too much time on it.
I stopped playing 5 weeks ago. Planning to cold turkey. I spent so much time reading online about the new expansion, that I thought "if I spend this much time on reading about WoW, why not play it" ? Yesterday I resubscribed. And I will play at least another month in the new expansion.

You can play the free version of WoW. But it won't give a good impression on what the game is. You can not chat with people. You can not sell/buy on the AH. You can not exchange items or gold with others. You will only see the starter areas. You will still have no idea about endgame. It might give you the wrong impressions (boring, lonely, easy game), while that might not be true later on.

Hope this helps.
Gryzemuis @ EU-Deathwing.

Great reply! Thanks very much.