Asus vs. Corsair... They Fight it Out

[bigshooter]

Originally posted by: Compddd
Overvolt, you do know the Gigabit thing is LAN, not the hard drive interface. The PCI bus will hamper the Gigabit lan. I dunno, I just like an 875 board that has all the features built in right.

I think he was trying to say any file transfer you do over a home network will most likely be limited by the speed of the hard drives in their machines, not their network.

I have a Asus P4P800 Deluxe with Corsair XMS PC3200 (not LL). I had no problems with my machine at all. I thought I did, but it turned out to be a bad IDE cable taht came with one of my new hard drives (don't ask). I think most corsair memory is fine, and most Asus mobo's are fine, it just happens taht the ultra low latency stuff is out of spec to handle the fast timings. There has also been MUCH discussion about the corsair low latency not working well with some motherboards Asus included. Why did you purchase this combination if there were known problems?

 

[PLaYaHaTeD]

Corsair and 865/875 don't mix well. I think anandtech was paid to say that everything has been fixed between these combinations. I went with Intel 865PERLK and Kingston HyperX 3200 @ 2-3-2-6. Smart move considering the lower price and the rock solid stability.

 

[borgmang]

Originally posted by: PLaYaHaTeD
Corsair and 865/875 don't mix well. I think anandtech was paid to say that everything has been fixed between these combinations. I went with Intel 865PERLK and Kingston HyperX 3200 @ 2-3-2-6. Smart move considering the lower price and the rock solid stability.

Everything I've read says that Corasair is the best/Fastest rated memory. I've read many reviews other than on anandtech. Besides, dont bad mouth anandtech, this is a awesome site with great froums. Why are you here on this site if you feel that way about anandtech?

 

[Ketchup]

Guys, you are attributing your problems to brands, and you really shouldn't do that. The only brand problem here, as was memtioned earlier, is that Corsair should only rate their chips at what they can do at 2.5v. I have never understood how they expect people to get their NEW systems running if the timings the chips run at by default will only do so at 2.7 volts. Last time I checked, motherboards didn't have vdd set to 2.7 out of the box.

Anyway, back to my original statement. The problem is not particular to Asus, it is a problem particular to the Intel 875P/865PE. And the memory problem is not with Corsair, except for overly-optimistic timings. The problem seems to be coming from an incompatibility with the 875P/865PE and winbound CH-5 chips. Maybe somebody here can find the threads, but I think there are some on the Abit forums and ABXZone.com.

Maybe it's time to look to another brand of memory? I hear Mushkin and Kingston are quite good.

 

[PLaYaHaTeD]

i shouldve put a happy face, because i was just kidding on the square. dont take sh*t so seriously. it just seemed a bit off when anandtech announced the issue with the corsair ram, and then the next review they said everything is perfect......yet we know that the issue is still very much a problem.

i respect anandtech more than any other online journalism website, and it is my most frequently visited site. so chill out

 

[borgmang]

Originally posted by: PLaYaHaTeD
i shouldve put a happy face, because i was just kidding on the square. dont take sh*t so seriously. it just seemed a bit off when anandtech announced the issue with the corsair ram, and then the next review they said everything is perfect......yet we know that the issue is still very much a problem.

i respect anandtech more than any other online journalism website, and it is my most frequently visited site. so chill out

Fair enough - I felt like sh*t earlier and needed sleep - shouldn't of been online earlier.

 

[SocrPlyr]

Originally posted by: newbiepcuser

Originally posted by: AndyHui
It's the Corsair RAM not being in spec. All DDR SDRAM should conform to the JEDEC standard, which is 2.5 volts.

Voltage is not part of the SPD specification, which is what all boards read from the DIMM. In this case it is Corsair's problem, not ASUS.

How do you know its not Asus problem, darn you! You're always sticking up for Asus. I'm going to have to fly to HK and lay the smack down on you.

He didn't mean the whole thing was a Corsair problem, he meant that they voltage issue was their fault for not following the JEDEC spec...

Originally posted by: NeborUnless you're actually transferring at gigabit speeds, that shouldn't matter... No one's internet connection has the bandwidth to really make a difference on a 66mhz PCI bus.... At least, that's my thinking.

For most users yes it makes sense, where i have run into a problem with this logic is thus... At school we run a gigabit lan... My secondary (or storage) harddrive runs on an ata controller card also on the PCI bus w/ the lan card. When copying large files to that drive my speed is reduced by a decent amount because i am limited by the PCI spec b/c i have both the gigabit card and the harddrive fighting for bandwidth... Now how often does this situation actually happen? Not very. How often does it actually slow me down? Rarely. Why does it bother me? I don't know...

oh by the way for your problem... I don't know if this was mentioned or not but have you tried to test each stick individually? (i am assuming you are running it in dual channel) this way you might be able to figure out whether or not it is the fault of one stick or the other...

Josh

 

[Byte]

Originally posted by: peter7921

Originally posted by: Compddd
I dont know why people get the ASUS 875 board when it has the Gigabit lan going through the PCI bus instead of the CSA, and that it cant handle some video cards due unless u bend the end of them, due to Capacitors being near the AGP slot.

Why do people get the Asus when there is the Abit IC7-G?

Well the reason i went with the Asus P4P800 Deluxe is cause i don't like the active cooling on the Abit boards there excessivley loud. I need a quiet board and like the fact that Asus boards have passive cooling. I don't like the P4C though cause of the promise controller(I don't care about the Gigabit LAN not being through CSA like most people i don't need it). I am very excited about the Asus P4C-E 800 Deluxe which fixes all the problems - It uses the CSA Gigabit and the ICHR south bridge allowing Serial ATA RAID through the south bridge.

Unless you are running a couple comps that access huge databases regularly on huge SCSI RAID arrays, you'll never notice the speed difference. Most people will never even touch 30% of gigabits full bandwidth.

 

[Nebor]

This thread DID not need to come back. But since countless people will surely read it AGAIN now, I'll let you know that I found a solution to my problem. It's called the Abit IC7-G. It's run like a charm since I got it. I'm an Abit man now. Every single P4C800 Deluxe had been returned at Fry's.... everyone I talked to had problems with them... So, to hell with them.

 

[Compddd]

haha thats the board I suggested in my first post on this thread 😀