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Asus K8V reliability for the A64 is not so great right now

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Every where you look including amdmb.com and our very own andantech.com, ASUS motherboards have been the worse of the crop.

Faulty capacitors buldge and bubble before the ASUS gets plugged in, IDE controllers that reboot the hard drives during boot-up, and faulty memory controllers that cause errors during POST. Rest assure these problems spread across more than just a small production patch, proven more so from the growing number of complaints.

I think Gigabyte and MSI made the more reliable Via A64 boards this year. Hopefully by next month, they all squash these bugs.

And I've used both the k8V and GA-KV8T800.
 
Originally posted by: hausdave
I bought a GA-K8NNXP and it wouldn't even post. Could have been the Proc though.
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Or the memory. BTW, I am very happy with my K8V, and no bulging capacitors, and no IDE problems. I don;t even see that many problems in the official thread that can be attributed to mad motherboard quality.
 
Asus ain't what they used to be. We'll see how much longer they can ride their old rep, what with the terrible tech support and customer service I see posted about all the time, and lack consistant high quality they were once known for.
 
Man, I tell you, the A64 has been out awhile now. Speaking in "geek terms", of course. You would think that there would be some decent motherboards out there already.

Asus seems to be having some issues for the past year or so.

NVidia's NForce3 was supposed to come out with a newer version with a better memory controller. (AFAICR)

What's the dealie-o here? :disgust: I mean, aside from that I really don't need to upgrade to an A64, I wouldn't right now, simply b/c the boards aren't there yet.
 
That's always been the problem with AMD boards,they rely on others to make chipsets.

If only they would do like intel & make their own chipsets like they did a few times.

I will never buy a via chitset mobo ever again,but I would love to be able to get a Amd chipset board.
 
Originally posted by: Budman
That's always been the problem with AMD boards,they rely on others to make chipsets.

If only they would do like intel & make their own chipsets like they did a few times.

I will never buy a via chitset mobo ever again,but I would love to be able to get a Amd chipset board.
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I'm posting from a SOYO SY-K8USA with a AMD 8151 chipset right now, it's just been licensed by Ali and rebadged :beer: Great board, fast and stable except for lack of AGP/PCI lock and the caps being too close to the CPU skt. Had a couple issues with it but the new bios fixed 'em up. It's pricey too, but I wanted to try an AMD chipset based board myself and I'm very happy with it now. Here's a review of it K8USA review
 
Originally posted by: Budman
That's always been the problem with AMD boards,they rely on others to make chipsets.

If only they would do like intel & make their own chipsets like they did a few times.

I will never buy a via chitset mobo ever again,but I would love to be able to get a Amd chipset board.
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Yep. I couldn't have said that better myself. Intel makes one of the best, if not the BEST motherboards around. Lately, they've even been getting a little more overclocker-friendly. 🙂 Sure would be nice if AMD got back into the game. The reason why they probably don't is b/c they dont' have a big OEM share like intel does.

IIRC, Dell uses Intel boards...what else do you need? 😉

Also, no more Via boards for me either. Too many interaction probs with other things. Creative cards, anyone?
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How can it have a faulty memory controller? It has none the memory controller is on the cpu die. Can't blame ASUS for the capacitors blame the company that makes the capacitors. How much of the people having trouble haven't overclocked the system?
 
Originally posted by: Viper96720
How can it have a faulty memory controller? It has none the memory controller is on the cpu die. Can't blame ASUS for the capacitors blame the company that makes the capacitors. How much of the people having trouble haven't overclocked the system?
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Yeah, the analogy that comes to mind is the faulty tires that Firestone sold to Ford Motor Company. Bad Ford! Bad! 😛
 
Originally posted by: Viper96720
How can it have a faulty memory controller? It has none the memory controller is on the cpu die. Can't blame ASUS for the capacitors blame the company that makes the capacitors. How much of the people having trouble haven't overclocked the system?
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OK, I'll bite. I don't own an Asus board, but I am an informed consumer. 🙂 I can blame Asus. How?

B/C as an electronics manufacturer, it's Asus' JOB to TEST the components that they build their products with. Especially in a super-sensitive application like a motherboard or video card, the tolerence/quality of the capacitors/resistors and chokes is crucial to the proper operation and longetivity of a component.

I am not an Electrical Engineer. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night. 😀

If Asus is fixing the problem, then great. They should replace free (minus shipping, of course) any defective board or any boards from "that batch" or whatever.

MHO.
 
Originally posted by: mechBgon
Originally posted by: Viper96720
How can it have a faulty memory controller? It has none the memory controller is on the cpu die. Can't blame ASUS for the capacitors blame the company that makes the capacitors. How much of the people having trouble haven't overclocked the system?
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Yeah, the analogy that comes to mind is the faulty tires that Firestone sold to Ford Motor Company. Bad Ford! Bad! 😛
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Well that doesn't make sense either. I would just replace the tires to get the car rolling again, but you would have to replace the motherboard to make up for the faulty batch of capacitors.

And people who can't start their machine can't very well over clock it.
 
I am not an Electrical Engineer. But I did stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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LMAO! 😀 I hope you noticed I'm using an AMD A64 chipset Mikey 😉
 
I see but they do make prototype boards before going into major manufacturing. Then end up getting a bad batch of capacitors. Can't blame ASUS they can't test every single capacitor before it's soldered on the board.
 
I'm not saying Asus is perfect, having had a couple of unsatisfactory A7V333-RAIDs that Asus' own BIOS-flash utility nuked for me 😉 But let's be fair and look at where the information about the bad capacitors came from in the first place: Asus themselves, wasn't it? It's not like they were cornered in some CapacitorGate exposé and forced to admit their supplier had supplied them with bad capacitors. Sorry if I'm misinterpreting your intention here... I certainly agree with this sentiment:
Hopefully by next month, they all squash these bugs.
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LOL @ "CapacitorGate!" 😀 Nice. Very nice. 😀

DAPUNISHER: Brudda! Wazzup? 🙂 Yes, I did notice that...it's an Ali-manufactured board? What's the dealie? I need to check your link...that would be a good start.

From what I've read, the A64 just KILLS for gaming. :wine:😎

I think I will wait for the new NForce3 board...if there still is one coming. I have grown VERY used to my AGP and PCI lock!! Can't OC w/o it.
 
I'm good as can be MichaelD :beer: Good to see you outside of the zoo called ATOT. The board is manufactured by SOYO using the AMD 8151 chipset Ali licensed from them. I have to say that I miss AGP/PCI lock pretty badly and I'll probably sell this and grab a nF3 250 if it's all the rumor mill says it is. It's fast enough for now with my 3000+@2.2ghz 440DDR, doesn't have anything on my Barton@2.43ghz for SETI, POVRAY, or many synthetic benchies, but it does indeed shine@gaming. Not a huge upgrade from the CPU standpoint but the HDD performance is definitely better than the nF2 I was using by a perceptable margin.
 
Heh, ATOT is like a pile of quicksand with gold bars floating in it; you know you're gonna die...but if you could just grab ONE BAR... :evil: Heh.

Anyway, thanks for the info on your board. I am waiting for the NF3250 (I couldn't remember it's title...thanks!) b/c allegedly, it's the schinitz. But, I read about it back in July and then, nothing since. :disgust:

I'm not too well spun up on the A64 or it's mobo support. Is it unlocked, like the AthlonXPs are on NF2 boards? Or can you only OC with the FSB?

I need to read a little more on this...maybe I should check out the main AT page, eh? 😀
 
DAPUNISHER,

question about the SOYO K8USA. i've read great things about this board and am seriously considering purchasing one....BUT, i've also read a great number of users, especially at OCworkbench forums, having problems with the SATA port.

Are you experiencing any related problems? And, where did you purchase your SOYO from?
If you can answer these questions, that'd be great.
Thanks!
 
Well here is my K8V experience.

I ordered the board with a 3200+ and 2x512MB Mushkin Level 1 PC3200. At first I could not even get the motherboard to recognize the configuration. I updated the bios but now the machine wont stay stable for more than a couple hours.

Also, Even after updating the bios, my HD still reboots on startup. I am RMA'ing the board monday.

Kristopher
 
Guess I'm one of the lucky ones. Stable since December except when I tried tweaking the memory settings and seeing if a 1/7 divider kicks in at 234 like the aopen board.
 
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