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pillage2001

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Dulanic, I'm using two sticks of the same RAM and before this I was already having this problem while using a stick of the RAM. I've used all the BIOS I can find and am currently using 1003 now. So far everything is okay until I play any Opengl or D3D games. After a few hours, it'll just jump into the windows cursor and freeze there.

I've loaded DEFAULT in the bios and everything is okie now. I installed the AGP403e which is linked in this thread and used optimal settings. Everything is STILL FINE NOW. I don't know how long it'll last. Are there any options? I've tried to figure out this for MONTHS!

I did use the 1005 03e. Guess I don't like to off my pc whenever I reboot and the startup is crappy where I have to press enter each time.
 

pillage2001

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There, it just happened. IT HANG ON ME! !@$@#$@#!

I'm so helpless!!!!!!!!!

My RAM are made for PC133
 

Dulanic

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Are you running Win2K? Thats what it sounds like if your crashing in games.... If so do you have the VIA AGP Win2K patch? Its available at MS Win2K page under downloads.
 

rover66

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Pillage2001:Initially I thought the problem was with overclocking and I tuned the system back to 800Mhz and it stil happens but not so often. So, I guess the 1004 Bios is not that stable afterall?

Sounds like it might be a heat/power problem. If you haven't tried it, I suggest you try another 3D card. The Geforce 2 uses a lot of juice.....

my 2 cents....

Rune
 

Jonny

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Umm...Gogga...I was expecting an AWD file....I downloaded "1005.03e" from that link you sent me...now...what can I do with it? Why is it a different format?
 

rampage2001

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Oops I meant that sometimes they might name something like that because its NOT ready for every joe to use.. btw that is from the German server..
 

DOOPYLOOPY

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These were the exact same problems that I was having before when I posted about this stuff about a month or so ago. This is awesome information. My computer appears to be running smooth as silk at the moment but I'm not sure if I have my VIA 4-1 drivers in Turbo mode or regular mode.

I hope MS release a patch for Win98SE and VIA chipsets.
 

NicColt

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I know that they release one for Win2K but not for Win98 and until they do just install the vgart in normal mode. I installed my video drivers after the 4-1 drivers and when I installed my video drivers that's when it asked my if I wanted to install the vgart in normal or turbo mode.
 

NicColt

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pillage2001 did yo try to install the vgart in normal mode like we suggested. You didn't say if you did or not.
 

rampage2001

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I am running the beta bios and I've found them to be the fix me for so far.. I'm running turbo mode in the agp driver, optimal in the bios also. I've had the same problems everyone else has with all other bios including 1003.. it helped the situation but did not fix it for me. I don't know if your video card chipset matters, I'm running a GeforceMX right now.. I ordered a All In Wonder Radeon, not only because it owns but because my cousin has a Radeon 32mb ddr and is running the exact same setup I am but with bios ver 1004c in optimal mode and turbo agp. He has no problems that my computer has shown.

Yet I *seem* to have it fixed now with 1005. I havent gave it the complete test such as DVD, Q3A time loop demos but the random windows freezes are gone.

A quick way for me to test a certain setup for lockups in the situation that we are all in I do this first.. if you have a mouse wheel button click it in a email message you have that is long and requires scrolling.. click the button so it stays as if you were just going to move the mouse down and let the screen move down but move the mouse up and down really fast.. you'll find on a very unstable setup it will freeze within 2 seconds or more.. sometimes it takes a while longer for this to occur in different bios versions and settings. That is my very shallow, yet useful first test for our mutual problem.

Next I try just letting a DVD run all the way through, as a unstable setup won't be able to handle it.. or Q3A on a demo loop.

Hope my experiences help someone else! And don't forget to try switching to Radeon.. even Asus' own Geforce cards are suggested only for intel chipsets!!
 

pillage2001

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Wokiez,

This is the list of things which I've done and I'm pretty much sure that overclocking has nothing to do with this. Heat is not an issue either as the highest my pc ran was bout 54Celcius which is 11Celcius better than before. I changed to FOP32, therefore heat is not a issue either.


First of all, I've installed the VGART driver at normal mode and set my system to normal mode too. Then I reset and the pc hang on me even though I did that. Then got pissed and flashed my bios again for the sake of doing it and load defaults. I've just changed my Vcore to 1.8V to make it more stable and left it at Optimal performance. Set my Ram to Cas 2 settings and ran WindowsME. So far, there's no sign of the computer hanging and I've played games which usually hangs and it all ran smooth. I'm crossing my fingers that everything is okie now. I'm running AGP4X too. I guess I'm better off for awhile. Wait till the next time it hangs. Then I'll start shouting here again. ;)

 

Whitedog

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I was running my TBird 700 @ 850 and voltage and was having some strange problems.. (programs just crashing). Upped my voltage to 1.85 and still happens... So, I lowered it to 800 and lowered the voltage to 1.75 and it runs stable for days now.

BTW, I don't have a PS/cooling problem.. I have 400/w PS and Copper HS. CPU runs at 43c. under load. I would just set the CPU to stock speed and see what happens.. You have nothing to loose at this point.
 

pillage2001

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I've tried running it in stock speed and it happens still. I don't think it's related to overclocking. I'm very sure that it's not. I'm running at 900Mhz at 1.8v and the highest temp that I've gone is 54Celcius which I think is alrite for the CPU. I've run CPU at 60+celcius for months and years and nothing happened. ;)

So far, I've resetted everything and it's kind alrite now. Hopefully.
 

Whitedog

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I dunno dude.. My problem was as simple as changing system performance setting to "Normal" That's all I know about this whole thing. I am not messing with my Bios. My system is running stable right now, and that is far more important than tweaking a few more mips or mflops out if it.

Good luck,
 

novon

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Oct 9, 1999
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carp, tried every bios and still locks up in games in 5-10min, any suggestions?
 

Dulanic

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Try setting the FSB jumpers like this.... 1&2 Off 3&4 On.... The setting Asus says is 100 really ends up closer to 102.... the 1&2 Off 3&4 On is really 100 and has fixed some peoples problems.
 

JackHawksmoor

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Maybe a dumb question, but are you online when the system crashes? My system with an A7V crashes every 5 to 90 minutes whenever I'm using my external 56K USR modem through the serial port. I'm running 1004d bios, and tech support hasn't been able to help yet.