Asus 5870 2gb Matrix the NEW loudest card.

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Lifer
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Kinda sucks but with all these next generation cards a person pretty much needs to go water cooling.

I don't know about you guys but if I turn the fan up on my 5850 to even 70% it makes my ears wanna bleed.

I hear ya bro, pardon the pun.
My 5750 is fairly loud at 70%.
I leave it at ~ 50%
 

Attic

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I think we can all agree that the GTX480 loses it's value and appeal because of it's outrageous noise characteristics. It's competitor the 5870 doesn't suffer from this same drawback. The 2nd post illustrates this point.

The claim being made in the OP looks like it's an attempt to take the focus off the noise levels of the GTX480 by comparing to a speciality card extremely limited run card. I don't really get it, so what?

If we're going to compare noise levels of cards with any benefit to potential buyers, I think their are much better comparisons to make.
 

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Lifer
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I think we can all agree that the GTX480 loses it's value and appeal because of it's outrageous noise characteristics. It's competitor the 5870 doesn't suffer from this same drawback. The 2nd post illustrates this point.

The claim being made in the OP looks like it's an attempt to take the focus off the noise levels of the GTX480 by comparing to a speciality card extremely limited run card. I don't really get it, so what?

If we're going to compare noise levels of cards with any benefit to potential buyers, I think their are much better comparisons to make.

The purpose of this thread was to link other opinions and other views of loud video cards ,and to discuss them.
I recommend Ati cards daily and I'm far from a fan boy.
I own a 5750! jeeez.

If you came into my thread to insult me ,please leave and post somewhere else.
 

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The purpose of this thread was to link other opinions and other views of loud video cards ,and to discuss them.

Well according to that first link you gave 295 GTX is 4-5 db louder (but a good amount cooler) than 480 GTX.

Do you think some of these discrepancies in noise (with 480 GTX) could be attributed to variation in the bin? (ie, not all chips are necessarily the same quality. They just have to make the 480 CUDA core 700 Mhz cut-off)
 

Hauk

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On topic, tweakboy mentions 65% fan speed. What card is he referring to and was it running at 65% during load as they sound tested? I'm confused.


Off topic, Metro 2033 brings the pain! Wow. I have 5870 CF and this game on the way. Now I'm really interested. DX11/tesslation/DoF taxes both multi-gpu configs. DoF offers the biggest hit? Lastly, is the DX11/tesslation bar missing from most of the configs on this graph? Sorry to stay OP, I'm just now seeing these numbers:

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konakona

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I think it all comes down to our standards.
If the Matrix card is louder than 480, then there is no chance in hell I am putting that in my system, simple as that.

Maybe you are used to muffling noises with even louder sound from you speakers, but apparently not everyone is. I am more of a music lover and such loud sound would fatigue my ears real quick.

It doesn't get any fairer than head to head comparison like the one [H] did, btw. If you are so bugged about the sound, maybe you should buy/rent/borrow a 480 and do your own test and post it here :) Neither of us have seen any of those card mentioned, so we are at the mercy of those reviewers. If you really must find the truth, be ready to pay the price.
 

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Now that I think about it, does the max load temperature threshold (set by the Manufacturer) in any way have to do with the expected variation of chip quality within the bin.

Wasn't 480 GTX originally supposed to be a 512 CUDA core 750 Mhz part? At one time wasn't Nvidia considering 512 CUDA core 600 Mhz as the cutoff point for the top dog, but settled for 480 cores @ 700 Mhz because it was faster?

If so that would mean there could be a lot of variation in 480 GTX cards sold. If the manufacturer set the temperature threshold too low (say high 80s) that might result in some cards being way too loud. Is this right or wrong?
 
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Daedalus685

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Frankly.. if the MAtrix is that loud that is all sorts of sad for what should be a 'premium' card... The vapourX coolers are quieter than stock, and cool much better... no excuse to slap a hair drier on something that will likely cost 100+ more than the stock versions. Shame on Asus if it is true!
 

Zebo

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Kinda sucks but with all these next generation cards a person pretty much needs to go water cooling.

I don't know about you guys but if I turn the fan up on my 5850 to even 70% it makes my ears wanna bleed.

Been that way for years. I started WCing because of video cards not processors which can afford huge silent monstrosities like Tuniq tower. Video cards simply do not have space to dissipate 200+ watts silently.

Even so dumping over 300w per card in my loop is no fun because I have to turn fans above 1000 rpm. i.e. audible.
 

Daedalus685

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Been that way for years. I started WCing because of video cards not processors which can afford huge silent monstrosities like Tuniq tower.

Even so dumping over 300w per card in my loop is no fun because I have to turn fans above 1000 rpm. i.e. audible.

One day I'll 'borrow' some of the sub ambient equipment at work and have some fun... still on air for now :(

It is getting ridiculous though... 300W is a hell of a lot of heat for anything, let alone a single chip in a computer...
 

1h4x4s3x

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I just read through the comments over at techreport and look what I've found.
kWRhF.jpg


You gotta be kidding me. :D

"Wow! If you look at the graph it looks like a lot, but there is only 0.1 FPS difference!! Beware of just looking at the graph. Our HD 5870 can can keep up with the GTX 480 at the maximum resolution in Heaven benchmark." AlienBabelTech
 
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Daedalus685

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I just read through the comments over at techreport and look what I've found.
kWRhF.jpg


You gotta be kidding me. :D


Ok, while that is hilarious, I'm sure BFG has an explanation :)... but more importantly, what does that have to do with the sound level of the 5870 matrix?
 

1h4x4s3x

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I'm sorry but I felt like sharing it with you and didn't want to create a thread for it.
 

konakona

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Whats that got to do with this thread?
Are you in the right thread?
It is directly relevant as your thread seems to question validity of the reviews, and this says mouthful about the techreport review. (oops, it is alienbabeltech, I stand corrected. my appologies to techreport)

Thanks for a good laugh 1h4x4s3x!

Try zooming in on the pic real hard, maybe you might find some hidden logo that says "sponsored by nvidia" :D
 
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cbn

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Happy Medium,

I think you need to compare ASUS Matrix HD5870 2GB to more 480 GTXs. (The Fermi used in this test might have been a product that could have made the original target bin of 512/750...while the average Fermi falls short and thus has to produce more noise in order to maintain 95C...or whatever temp is set in the Bios)
 

Zebo

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One day I'll 'borrow' some of the sub ambient equipment at work and have some fun... still on air for now :(

It is getting ridiculous though... 300W is a hell of a lot of heat for anything, let alone a single chip in a computer...

We'll probably see triple slot cards soon with 2 1/2" blowers inside.. It's really the only way to be reasonably quiet with these newer cards with air.
 

NoQuarter

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We'll probably see triple slot cards soon with 2 1/2" blowers inside.. It's really the only way to be reasonably quiet with these newer cards with air.

Nah they'll come with one of those blue ice packs and you can use the card for an hour then refreeze it.
 

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People try and use noise as a way to discredit 480. It is going to sell out, life will go on, and nV will still hold the marketshare.
 

Daedalus685

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We'll probably see triple slot cards soon with 2 1/2" blowers inside.. It's really the only way to be reasonably quiet with these newer cards with air.

Or someone could build one that doesn't heat up so damn much ;)
 

konakona

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People try and use noise as a way to discredit 480. It is going to sell out, life will go on, and nV will still hold the marketshare.

don't care about marketshare, do care about noise however. I was recommending NV card back in gf7 days since it was the quieter one.
also bought a twinturbo pro to modify my 5850. some people just don't care for quiet computers, that's fine. Don't assume everyone's priorities are identical.
 
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