Assault Weapons Not Protected by 2nd Amendment, Fed Appeals Court Rules a year ago :)

[imported_tajmahal]

AR10 sized action can accept 308 length cartridges, to go to 30/06 length requires a yet longer action.

Yep, but you're getting into a far more expensive and heavier platform with the AR10.

 

[IJTSSG]

he's not wrong, but he is lazy AF.

from Wiki (my bold for emphasis)



while the criteria of "in common use" is not objective by any means, if any firearm were to be deemed "in common use", it would almost certainly be the AR-15 by a large margin. it is the most popular rifle sold in america - https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/14/health/ar15-rifle-history-trnd/index.html

the AR-15 is legal for hunting purposes. at least looking at CA and TX hunting law, deer must be taken with a centerfire rifle, which would apply to most AR-15s. Common AR-15 calibers are .223 and 5.56 (centerfire), less common but readily available is .22LR (rimfire), and arguably even less common are 9mm AR's (centerfire..but probably not desirable for hunting). I'm sure someone else more knowledgeable can chime in with even more details and or clarifications.

And besides, specifically banning the AR-15 is kinda silly. Why? because someone can grab a Mini-14 instead and do the same thing. even if all AR-15's disappeared overnight.

It's almost like trying to kill a torrent site - another one just pops up in its place, because the root cause of the problem was not addressed at all to begin with.

so until we address the root cause, this can still happen. that being said, preventative action is not necessarily bad. we shouldn't make perfect the enemy of good.

I'm not lazy either. I just refuse to spoon feed info to people who can't be bothered to read more than a headline.

Thanks for posting. IMO, the 'in common use' caveat is going to be key the next time scotus hears a gun case.

 

[Fenixgoon]

I'm not lazy either. I just refuse to spoon feed info to people who can't be bothered to read more than a headline.

Thanks for posting. IMO, the 'in common use' caveat is going to be key the next time scotus hears a gun case.

repeatedly posting "that's not what scalia said" and offering no clarification when challenged on that claim is not spoonfeeding. it's called defending your argument.

come in with a well thought out argument and credible references, and you won't get into quote wars about who said what and you can spend more time debating policy rather than facts.

that is what we're supposed to do in P&N, right? right???

 

[IJTSSG]

repeatedly posting "that's not what scalia said" and offering no clarification when challenged on that claim is not spoonfeeding. it's called defending your argument.

come in with a well thought out argument and credible references, and you won't get into quote wars about who said what and you can spend more time debating policy rather than facts.

that is what we're supposed to do in P&N, right? right???

Having to educate people who are quoting something they obviously never read is spoonfeeding. Thanks for the advice though, I appreciate it.

 

[Thebobo]

Not that familiar with the build options for the AR platform. Besides my time in the military the only rifle I’ve used is a cheap .17 for the odd fox or coyote who might attack pets and never needed it for that purpose. Having sent countless rounds downrange through the AR platform while “on the clock” I really have no desire to own one now. It’s like the Toyota Tercel of gun platforms, bland and lowest common denominator/idiot proofed for the masses.

Well I'm not going to say I was the one who reported this thread for being way off topic

Cuz I didn't

 

[glenn1]

Well I'm not going to say I was the one who reported this thread for being way off topic

Cuz I didn't

Yes it went off topic for a couple posts, that happens. There’s no post count limit for a thread so that shouldn’t be a big deal but thanks for steering it back into topic.

 

[Atreus21]

And demonstrates my point that Americans in general are shitty human beings.

I would be very careful about conflating murder rate with violent hatred, particularly when you look at who's doing the bulk of the murdering. Because it's not "Americans in general."

 

[trenchfoot]

Not that familiar with the build options for the AR platform. Besides my time in the military the only rifle I’ve used is a cheap .17 for the odd fox or coyote who might attack pets and never needed it for that purpose. Having sent countless rounds downrange through the AR platform while “on the clock” I really have no desire to own one now. It’s like the Toyota Tercel of gun platforms, bland and lowest common denominator/idiot proofed for the masses.

I have a similar attitude being in service 25+ years and now retired. Having to shoot at other people for a living wasn't any kind of motivation to keep AR types around the house, let alone the fact that those "other folks" was sending these sweet little nothings back at me with a purpose. FTS. Done with it along with the tools that came with the trade.

As mentioned previously by me, I own and do cherish my one revolver, my one shotgun and my one bolt action scoped rifle. Two for putting meat on the table and one because the craftsmanship is like poetry in motion when its mechanical parts are actuated.

AR's? I call them plinkers now that I no longer need them as a means to get back home in one whole undamaged piece.