Asrock Dual SataII, Venice 3000 @ 8x352 HTT/FSB

[designit]

Hey I have been running this Venice 3000 @ 352X8= 2814mhz on this Asrock Dual SataII Mobo. I ran the prime on it last night for 10 1/2 hrs no problem. I am using this setting as I am typing. I did try 355x8 but during Spi it froze. Since I am using stock HSF, I am reluctant to increase the vcore voltage. I have done vcore, vdimm, vdd, and vldt mods on this board. Right now I have set the voltages to:
vcore=1.616v
vdimm=2.91v
vdd=2.12v
vldt=1.24v
Screenshot1
Screenshot2
358x8=2864mhz is 59.1% increase over stock speed
SiSandra Score
I have also modded the NB, and SB Heat sinks, w/ copper fins and small fans blowing on them. an 80mm fan is also blowing on the mem modules.
If Asrock provides more vcore, vdimm, and chipset voltage options, this motherboard will beat any board in the market. The proof is in the 352mhz HTT/FSB.
If you dont think so just prove it. no rowdyness please.

Edit:
If you are interested in any of those voltmods, check this Link

Edit2: Also did higher fsb/htt @ lower multi. refer to links below:
below are meaningless FSB/HTT speed and just an observation. The whole purpose of this thread is 8x352=56.5% speed over stock @ lower multi.
Asrock @ 380 mhz
Asrock @ 390 mhz
Asrock @ 393 mhz

Edit: Just did 5x397mhz

EDIT2: Anyone interested to participate in this challenge, must follow the following criteria:
1) Must perform the test w/ stock cooling. Water cooling is accepted only if you run prime, superpi, and another stress program all at the same time w/ screenshot to prove it. Otherwise it wont be fair challenge and Asrock will hold the record.
2) The vcore must not be more than 1.61v for Venice and 1.575v for Opteron. Otherwise it would not be fair challenge, and not acceptable.
3) Any CPU will be accepted, but it must be overclocked to or more than 56.5% over stock speed at a lower multiplier. FSB/HTT of 500mhz is meaningless if the system is not overclocked to mentioned speed- criteria is not met.
4) Must have proof and validation, equal or greater than what I have shown:
10hr of prime, Superpi 32M, and CPUz validation.
5) Must have performed using dual channel rams, any size- a single stick of ram is not acceptable.

If you meet those criteria please do so and post w/ your proof.
And please no foul language. Some DFI users here have adopted that habit. Do not follow suit, it will only hurt you.
Any suggestion(s) is/are welcomed. I have endeavored to establish a fair criteria. If you feel otherwise, please let me know what need to change.

Thank you and looking forward to ?Duel? fair and square...

EDIT3: I increased the voltage to 1.63v and did the following. Wasn't going to take a chance w/ stock HSF so I just did a 1m Spi iteration

8x363=2904mhz, a 61.3% overclock over stock
9x325.22=2927mhz, a 62.6% overclock-For those who wonder if can do w/ stock multiplier
SiSandra mem bandwidth.
1M Superpi

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: designit
Hey I have been running my Venice 3000 @ 352X8= 2814mhz on this Asrock Dual SataII Mobo. I ran the prime on it last night for 10 1/2 hrs no problem. I am using this setting as I am typing. I did try 355x8 but during Spi it froze. Since I am using stock HSF, I am reluctant to increase the vcore voltage. I have done vcore, vdimm, vdd, and vldt mods on this board. Right now I have set the voltages to:
vcore=1.616v
vdimm=2.91v
vdd=2.12v
vldt=1.24v
Screenshot
I have also modded the NB, and SB Heat sinks, w/ copper fins and small fans blowing on them. an 80mm fan is also blowing on the mem modules.
If Asrock provides more vcore, vdimm, and chipset voltage options, this motherboard will beat any board in the market. The proof is the 352mhz HTT/FSB. No mother can do that. Not DFI, and not even latest Asus A8R32 MVP that AT has reviewed

My Ultra-D can do 350. Nonetheless, that is an oustanding Venice overclock. Congrats!
:thumbsup:

 

[CP5670]

That's very impressive for that board. :thumbsup: I think it could have been a great overclocking platform if the BIOS had really been designed for it.

However, many of the new revision DFI boards can do that easily on a low multiplier. Mine does at least 400 and AT's Expert board passed 500 in their review.

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: designit
Hey I have been running my Venice 3000 @ 352X8= 2814mhz on this Asrock Dual SataII Mobo. I ran the prime on it last night for 10 1/2 hrs no problem. I am using this setting as I am typing. I did try 355x8 but during Spi it froze. Since I am using stock HSF, I am reluctant to increase the vcore voltage. I have done vcore, vdimm, vdd, and vldt mods on this board. Right now I have set the voltages to:
vcore=1.616v
vdimm=2.91v
vdd=2.12v
vldt=1.24v
Screenshot
I have also modded the NB, and SB Heat sinks, w/ copper fins and small fans blowing on them. an 80mm fan is also blowing on the mem modules.
If Asrock provides more vcore, vdimm, and chipset voltage options, this motherboard will beat any board in the market. The proof is the 352mhz HTT/FSB. No mother can do that. Not DFI, and not even latest Asus A8R32 MVP that AT has reviewed

My Ultra-D can do 350. Nonetheless, that is an oustanding Venice overclock. Congrats!
:thumbsup:

I can do 380. but that's not the point. can you overclock as high as stock multi?
I mean, using 4x, or 5x multi and not able to overclock to as high as you can do it w/ stock multi, is the point here.
The 350 FSB/HTT you are claiming is at what ssytem speed and show me the proof.
The best highest speed I have seen @ ExtremeSystem forum was on opteron and at around 340 fsb using one multi lower than stock. and that's what I have here, but it is 352. which is 12mhz higher than DFI.

 

[designit]

Originally posted by: CP5670
That's very impressive for that board. :thumbsup: I think it could have been a great overclocking platform if the BIOS had really been designed for it.

However, many of the new revision DFI boards can do that easily on a low multiplier. Mine does at least 400 and AT's Expert board passed 500 in their review.

I explained the point. Once againg I am not interested in 4x, 5, or 6x multi. I am interested in in a multi that can overclock as high or better as if you use stock multi.

Edit: here is AT's on expert that uses 5x to get 2500mhz on A64 4000, that did 2900mhz.
What good does that do? nothing. Show me at lower multi that can be overclocked as high as stock(in this case 2900mhz). this is the point here. There is none other motherboard that has done what I did on Asrock.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2620&p=3

 

[the cobbler]

you are out of your mind, and about to open the world's biggest can of worms

my frigging Chaintech VNF4-Ultra did 350 no problem. I primed it for hours at 342fsb to max out my crap value ram

most DFI UT boards have no problem hitting near 400

there are guys who have had them in the 500s

 

[designit]

Yah lets open the can of warm. and you is all talk and no show.
where is your proof.
Again as said this board will do 400 mhz lower multi. but the point is
CAN YOU OVERCLOCK AS HIGH FINAL SPEED AS STOCK MULTI?
example:
4x500=2000 on A64 3200 is meaningless
9x340=3060 makes sense-congrat. you win the prize.
get it?

 

[CP5670]

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: CP5670
That's very impressive for that board. :thumbsup: I think it could have been a great overclocking platform if the BIOS had really been designed for it.

However, many of the new revision DFI boards can do that easily on a low multiplier. Mine does at least 400 and AT's Expert board passed 500 in their review.

I explained the point. Once againg I am not interested in 4x, 5, or 6x multi. I am interested in in a multi that can overclock as high or better as if you use stock multi.

Edit: here is AT's on expert that uses 5x to get 2500mhz on A64 4000, that did 2900mhz.
What good does that do? nothing. Show me at lower multi that can be overclocked as high as stock(in this case 2900mhz). this is the point here. There is none other motherboard that has done what I did on Asrock.
http://www.anandtech.com/mb/showdoc.aspx?i=2620&p=3

eh, you aren't using the default multiplier either, which is 9x for a 3000. And there are some processors like mine that will only overclock to their maximum speed on a lower multiplier than the default. What exactly are you trying to argue anyway?

 

[designit]

The higest I can do w/ stock multi is 9x307mhz. but little better speed w/ 8x.
The advantage of 8x is that I can use lower divider(s) and get near max mem overclock.
example: using 133mhz divider=.66 x 352=232 mhz
that could be as high as my mem can take. but 166mhz divider will put me over
example: .83x307(highest I can do using stock multi)=254 mhz which is over my ram's limit.
Being able to overclock as high (final speed) will give you more room to play w/ mem dividers, to be able to maximise the mem overclock(limit).
This is the idea, and makes sense. using 4x, or 5x multi does not make sense if can not reach your max sys speed.
Am I clear or not?

Edit: here is screnshot of stock multi:9x307=2763mhz, 56 mhz lower than 8x multi.
http://img296.imageshack.us/my.php?image=111920050831091lf.jpg

 

[imported_Seer]

Originally posted by: designit
The higest I can do w/ stock multi is 9x307mhz. but little better speed w/ 8x.
The advantage of 8x is that I can use lower divider(s) and get near max mem overclock.
example: using 133mhz divider=.66 x 352=232 mhz
that could be as high as my mem can take. but 166mhz divider will put me over
example: .83x307(highest I can do using stock multi)=254 mhz which is over my ram's limit.
Being able to overclock as high (final speed) will give you more room to play w/ mem dividers, to be able to maximise the mem overclock(limit).
This is the idea, and makes sense. using 4x, or 5x multi does not make sense if can not reach your max sys speed.
Am I clear or not?

not really.

 

[designit]

@ seer
Ok let me see how I can be more clear.
Lets say you bought a dual kit that does not overclock very high. best it can do is 225 mhz(DDR 450). And let's say your A64 3000 can overclock up to 2700 mhz. (9x300)
to be able to get the max out of your ram is using 133mhz divider(.66 ratio).
that puts you to : .66x300=198mhz(DDR396), becaue 166 divider(.83 ratio) will put you over the mem max overclocking ability: .83x300=249(DDR498).
But if you could use lower multi that gives you the final speed of 2700mhz (338x8=2704mhz) you can get more out of your ram using 133mhz divider
here : .66x338=223(DDR446), which is much better.
This is where lower multi bcome useful. will be useless if can not acheive the highest system speed(what you can do w/ stock multi). I dont care if you can do 4x600, on A64 4000 that can do 2900mhz stock speed. its waste of breath or writing about.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: designit
Hey I have been running my Venice 3000 @ 352X8= 2814mhz on this Asrock Dual SataII Mobo. I ran the prime on it last night for 10 1/2 hrs no problem. I am using this setting as I am typing. I did try 355x8 but during Spi it froze. Since I am using stock HSF, I am reluctant to increase the vcore voltage. I have done vcore, vdimm, vdd, and vldt mods on this board. Right now I have set the voltages to:
vcore=1.616v
vdimm=2.91v
vdd=2.12v
vldt=1.24v
Screenshot
I have also modded the NB, and SB Heat sinks, w/ copper fins and small fans blowing on them. an 80mm fan is also blowing on the mem modules.
If Asrock provides more vcore, vdimm, and chipset voltage options, this motherboard will beat any board in the market. The proof is the 352mhz HTT/FSB. No mother can do that. Not DFI, and not even latest Asus A8R32 MVP that AT has reviewed

My Ultra-D can do 350. Nonetheless, that is an oustanding Venice overclock. Congrats!
:thumbsup:

I can do 380. but that's not the point. can you overclock as high as stock multi?
I mean, using 4x, or 5x multi and not able to overclock to as high as you can do it w/ stock multi, is the point here.
The 350 FSB/HTT you are claiming is at what ssytem speed and show me the proof.
The best highest speed I have seen @ ExtremeSystem forum was on opteron and at around 340 fsb using one multi lower than stock. and that's what I have here, but it is 352. which is 12mhz higher than DFI.

Why are you getting so defensive?

Do you mean LDT multiplier? If so, then I also ask you what is the point? Having a higher hypertransport does zip for overall system performance. I'll give it a try at 4x, but again, there is no point. You should have been more clear before throwing out that poor choice of a final sentence.

 

[designit]

What are talking about? ldt? whos talking about ldt?. 4x600(fsb).
is that better?

 

[buzzsaw13]

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: designit

Originally posted by: Avalon

Originally posted by: designit
Hey I have been running my Venice 3000 @ 352X8= 2814mhz on this Asrock Dual SataII Mobo. I ran the prime on it last night for 10 1/2 hrs no problem. I am using this setting as I am typing. I did try 355x8 but during Spi it froze. Since I am using stock HSF, I am reluctant to increase the vcore voltage. I have done vcore, vdimm, vdd, and vldt mods on this board. Right now I have set the voltages to:
vcore=1.616v
vdimm=2.91v
vdd=2.12v
vldt=1.24v
Screenshot
I have also modded the NB, and SB Heat sinks, w/ copper fins and small fans blowing on them. an 80mm fan is also blowing on the mem modules.
If Asrock provides more vcore, vdimm, and chipset voltage options, this motherboard will beat any board in the market. The proof is the 352mhz HTT/FSB. No mother can do that. Not DFI, and not even latest Asus A8R32 MVP that AT has reviewed

My Ultra-D can do 350. Nonetheless, that is an oustanding Venice overclock. Congrats!
:thumbsup:

I can do 380. but that's not the point. can you overclock as high as stock multi?
I mean, using 4x, or 5x multi and not able to overclock to as high as you can do it w/ stock multi, is the point here.
The 350 FSB/HTT you are claiming is at what ssytem speed and show me the proof.
The best highest speed I have seen @ ExtremeSystem forum was on opteron and at around 340 fsb using one multi lower than stock. and that's what I have here, but it is 352. which is 12mhz higher than DFI.

Why are you getting so defensive?

Do you mean LDT multiplier? If so, then I also ask you what is the point? Having a higher hypertransport does zip for overall system performance. I'll give it a try at 4x, but again, there is no point. You should have been more clear before throwing out that poor choice of a final sentence.

He was talking about the CPU multi being useless at 4x or 5x

 

[WT]

Mr. Spock, set thread degradation to 'kill'.

I do love my Asrock mobo, I just wish their BIOS team would have drank a few more sake's with their board designers and built in a few extra features. The board would be legendary by this point, with a higher voltage allowance, better NB cooling and GB LAN with HD audio, and go down in history as a more revered and competent piece of hardware than anything (sorry to the BH6 guys, but its true). Would I pay $100 for it ?? Yea, why not ....

 

[designit]

The arrogance of DFI mobo users never fails. The funny part is that DFI is not holding the record any more, never mind that, these fanatics keep promoting it as "best overclocker" or " best mobo". Do they read any reviews here, or by any other tech reviewer? or are they just ignoring it?
looking into reviews of mobo going all the way back to mid 2005, DFI has been beaten by several mobo in the charts. UD was top mobo for a while beginning of last year. Not anymore. Its been more than 7 months That other mobo?s have held the record. It is time to swallow the poison and admit it.

 

[Elfear]

Originally posted by: designit
The arrogance of DFI mobo users never fails. The funny part is that DFI is not holding the record any more, never mind that, these fanatics keep promoting it as "best overclocker" or " best mobo". Do they read any reviews here, or by any other tech reviewer? or are they just ignoring it?
looking into reviews of mobo going all the way back to mid 2005, DFI has been beaten by several mobo in the charts. UD was top mobo for a while beginning of last year. Not anymore. Its been more than 7 months That other mobo?s have held the record. It is time to swallow the poison and admit it.

I see where you're coming from, but have you looked to see what 90% of the world record holders are using for a motherboard? DFI has dominated that scene for about the last year.

By the way, congrats on the oc. Didn't know that board had it in it.

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: designit
The arrogance of DFI mobo users never fails. The funny part is that DFI is not holding the record any more, never mind that, these fanatics keep promoting it as "best overclocker" or " best mobo". Do they read any reviews here, or by any other tech reviewer? or are they just ignoring it?
looking into reviews of mobo going all the way back to mid 2005, DFI has been beaten by several mobo in the charts. UD was top mobo for a while beginning of last year. Not anymore. Its been more than 7 months That other mobo?s have held the record. It is time to swallow the poison and admit it.

i don't understand where this arrogance thing you're talking about comes from...

since when did people brag or say... "HEY MY DFI BOARD OWNS YOU"...

i've never heard that...

it's always intel vs. amd or nvidia vs. ati.... NEVER have i heard of DFI MOBO vs. other manufacturers...

edit: also in the review you linked, the 322 is 1:1, with no divider. your 352 is with a divider.

 

[designit]

shimishim,
read a few post above yours. I guess I shouldn?t have mentioned DFI in my 1st post. wasn?t intending to boil any DFI user's artery, but it seems, every time I am mentioning any good overclocking on this board or any other board(other than DFI), soon, there are posts to follow : "DFI does ... etc... @ 1.15v vcore on my ...etc...... cpu.....etc....can yours do that.....etc?"
Always the pattern. Yes I know once there was a time, and a few went to extreme, and then so many went and bought..... so what? Lets discuss Asrock. That?s this thread is about.
And if anyone says DFI or any other board can overclock (final speed) as high as stock using lower multi, then bring it on. Show me the proof. That?s what I am interested in.

 

[Shimmishim]

well i understand now more where you are coming from.

but you did mention DFI in the first post so... I think that's why people are getting a little worked up about the things you are saying...

i think the reason most people say.... the dfi can do blah blah blah... is because it can do blah blah blah...

no one ever said that the ASRock board sucks... at least i haven't seen any forum users say so...

but if they have, then they are ignorant for not testing the board out before saying anything

 

[AkumaX]

if there was a DFI that did 8 x 360 would that make you happy

 

[Shimmishim]

just to make a point, i will try to do what you asked for...

i don't have a new AD0 revision DFI board but an older version so it might be tough for me... either way i'll try what i can...

 

[Shimmishim]

Originally posted by: AkumaX
if there was a DFI that did 8 x 360 would that make you happy

just wait.

 

[designit]

Yes bring it on. Bring me any board that does more than 56.5% over stock speed @ lower multiplier A64 CPU. Just remember the rule: == or > 56.5% overclocked over stock speed @ lower multi than stock.
example: A64 3200 is 10x multi @ 2000mhz stock. Show it does X=(2000x1.56.5%)/9=347. another word: 9x347=3123mhz, give or take.
And I will be easy on you. You can use cooling other than stock. And you can use opteron, FX, you name it. I am using stock cooling and the cheapest A64 cpu here, but that's ok, I am being nice about it and giving you a break.
Oh I forgot- need prime95 10 hrs minimum.

 

[Avalon]

Originally posted by: designit
shimishim,
read a few post above yours. I guess I shouldn?t have mentioned DFI in my 1st post. wasn?t intending to boil any DFI user's artery, but it seems, every time I am mentioning any good overclocking on this board or any other board(other than DFI), soon, there are posts to follow : "DFI does ... etc... @ 1.15v vcore on my ...etc...... cpu.....etc....can yours do that.....etc?"
Always the pattern. Yes I know once there was a time, and a few went to extreme, and then so many went and bought..... so what? Lets discuss Asrock. That?s this thread is about.
And if anyone says DFI or any other board can overclock (final speed) as high as stock using lower multi, then bring it on. Show me the proof. That?s what I am interested in.

I am happy for you and your good motherboard, but did you even bother reading what you wrote? In your OP, your last sentence is the one that's being arrogant, not us. And like I said, when I get back to my main rig with an Ultra-D in it, I'll give it a try. I had a Sempron with pictures posted, it should be archived in the forums still, of a 2800+ overclocked at stock multi to 345x8 prime stable (different mobo though, s754 lanparty). You can hunt for that in the meantime while I try it with an Opty if you'd like.

You also made it sound like you were talking about the LDT multiplier when you mentioned 4/5x multi. That's where I got that from., but I know what you meant now.