Originally posted by: MarlboroJones
How impactful is the CPU on gaming??? That is, if one picks up a mobile amd at 2200 or better with a Sapphire 9800 pro would that work okay for gaming purposes at stock speeds or only if OCing??? (I haven't tried OCing yet when building a system.) Sorry for the bump (and last question.)
I would say spend a little extra and go with Athlon 64 or possibly Sempron socket 754 CPUs. The main question is wether to choose AGP or pci-express. Again, I would choose pci-express for future upgradability, although I recognize that AGP is not slower, plus there are some good bargains (especially 6800NU for $185, or the 9800pro for $125). In pci-extress, you can get 6600GT for $160, or go for X800XL for $250.
Another question is which platform has good mcroATX boards. For socket 939 I like the FoxConn NF4K8MC-ERS ($79 at monarch) or the MSI-RS480M2-IL which has integrated graphics but zero overclocking.
I do not know much about socket 754 microATX boards, but there are a lot of them. So for best value now I would say get the new core sempron 3100+ plus a good cheap 754 nicroATX board, and the 6800NU or 9800pro.
For future upgradability, get the Venice 3000+ with either the foxconn or msi boards above, and add a 6600GT pci-express. btw, Moarch has this cpu+mobo combo where they test it for you, and you get 2 free games (farcry + HL2).
http://www.monarchcomputer.com/Merchant...n=PROD&Store_Code=M&Product_Code=80152
btw, for serious gaming I thing the athlon XP's will come up short in current games. So forget Athlon XP. Ditto for celeron D or A-C. Ditto for P4 (overpriced).
btw (2) the only difference that the new core makes (for both sempron and A64) is for overlcocking. So if you're not overclocking it doesn't matter. BUT - don't forget you could get as much as a 30% performance boost with overclocking with the new sempron and A64 cores, as they are very overclocking friendly. But you need to research good overclocking motherboards. In socket 939, the foxConn NF4K8MC board I mentioned above is the only choice for overclocking right now, and it is a little limited too (no voltage adjustment).