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Asking a girl out this time of year: yay or nay? update

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"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.


Your mom is right. You should have called her earlier.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: MichaelD
This time of year? As in "winter?" As in "February?" As in "you will never, no way in hell ever actually obtain some female genital contact unless you stop being a weenie?"

Oh; VALENTINE'S DAY. Nooooooooo, no, no! Dont' do that. Then you have to buy a present/spend money. Wait until the following weekend. Don't worry, John; somewhere out there, there's a female that will actually touch your thingee. Maybe even twice if you spend money.

Yeah, nice edit there. Reading a post (particularly the first sentence) can always be a good thing to do before replying. As for your last sentence, I know there are girls out there, I have had girlfriends in the past. But, I guess you're just so much more experienced and knowledable since you're a couple years older and have probably had a few more girlfriends. Maybe one day one of them will get you to grow up.
FINALLY, someone that gets it. a lot of women hate the idea of not having a valentine. hopefully yours hates it more than she does the idea of going out with you. if so, you're in luck. if not, you would never get any from her.

entonces: valentine's day is one of the best chances men have for asking women on dates. a woman would much rather have a crappy valentine's date than none at all. think about it.

Ok, first off, I'm not just trying to "get some" from her, you can call me pathetic or whatever but I think otherwise. I like her, she's sweet, intelligent and nice, and I'd like to get to know her better. Second, your post is a summary of why I will NOT be asking her out this weekend.

"she's sweet, intelligent and nice" huh... usually that means that she's real ugly...

But to each his own, i guess...
 
Originally posted by: Garfang
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: MichaelD
This time of year? As in "winter?" As in "February?" As in "you will never, no way in hell ever actually obtain some female genital contact unless you stop being a weenie?"

Oh; VALENTINE'S DAY. Nooooooooo, no, no! Dont' do that. Then you have to buy a present/spend money. Wait until the following weekend. Don't worry, John; somewhere out there, there's a female that will actually touch your thingee. Maybe even twice if you spend money.

Honestly, you can be a d!ck.

Scott...I say go for it.

True, MikeD. JohnJohn's like 15 or 16, not 26. He doesn't necessarily want to get his willie wet tonight. Maybe later down the road if things go well, and he likes the girl, and she likes him, they'll be consummating a deal.

Ehhhh.. when i was 15 or 16 i DID want to dip my willie... that is what girls were for... a meaningful relationship when you are at that age? yeah...
 
Originally posted by: SnapIT
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: MichaelD
This time of year? As in "winter?" As in "February?" As in "you will never, no way in hell ever actually obtain some female genital contact unless you stop being a weenie?"

Oh; VALENTINE'S DAY. Nooooooooo, no, no! Dont' do that. Then you have to buy a present/spend money. Wait until the following weekend. Don't worry, John; somewhere out there, there's a female that will actually touch your thingee. Maybe even twice if you spend money.

Yeah, nice edit there. Reading a post (particularly the first sentence) can always be a good thing to do before replying. As for your last sentence, I know there are girls out there, I have had girlfriends in the past. But, I guess you're just so much more experienced and knowledable since you're a couple years older and have probably had a few more girlfriends. Maybe one day one of them will get you to grow up.
FINALLY, someone that gets it. a lot of women hate the idea of not having a valentine. hopefully yours hates it more than she does the idea of going out with you. if so, you're in luck. if not, you would never get any from her.

entonces: valentine's day is one of the best chances men have for asking women on dates. a woman would much rather have a crappy valentine's date than none at all. think about it.

Ok, first off, I'm not just trying to "get some" from her, you can call me pathetic or whatever but I think otherwise. I like her, she's sweet, intelligent and nice, and I'd like to get to know her better. Second, your post is a summary of why I will NOT be asking her out this weekend.

"she's sweet, intelligent and nice" huh... usually that means that she's real ugly...

But to each his own, i guess...

Actually it usually means she's sweet, intelligent and nice.

 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.


Your mom is right. You should have called her earlier.

What you and my mother don't seem to understand is I'm not just limiting it to tonight, heh. It's not like "see me tonight or never!" heh. I was just planning on asking her if she'd like to go out. If she couldn't tonight for whatever reason, but is still interested, then we can set something up for another night.

I don't understand the logic of "it has to be for sometime other than this evening". If she had no plans tonight, and I had no plans, why sit at our separate homes doing nothing? There is nothing wrong with going out with someone the same night you asked. If there is, you're gonna have to explain it to me.
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.


Your mom is right. You should have called her earlier.

What you and my mother don't seem to understand is I'm not just limiting it to tonight, heh. It's not like "see me tonight or never!" heh. I was just planning on asking her if she'd like to go out. If she couldn't tonight for whatever reason, but is still interested, then we can set something up for another night.

I don't understand the logic of "it has to be for sometime other than this evening". If she had no plans tonight, and I had no plans, why sit at our separate homes doing nothing? There is nothing wrong with going out with someone the same night you asked. If there is, you're gonna have to explain it to me.


Nothing wrong with that. I just think it makes it look too casual. Kinda like "I had nothing better to do so I was wondering if you want to hang out". If you call a couple of days before it shows planning and you put more thought into it and that you actually want to go out with her because of her and not because you had nothing to do. I just think that's a better way to start especially if are looking for something more than a friendship. 🙂
 
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.


Your mom is right. You should have called her earlier.

What you and my mother don't seem to understand is I'm not just limiting it to tonight, heh. It's not like "see me tonight or never!" heh. I was just planning on asking her if she'd like to go out. If she couldn't tonight for whatever reason, but is still interested, then we can set something up for another night.

I don't understand the logic of "it has to be for sometime other than this evening". If she had no plans tonight, and I had no plans, why sit at our separate homes doing nothing? There is nothing wrong with going out with someone the same night you asked. If there is, you're gonna have to explain it to me.


Nothing wrong with that. I just think it makes it look too casual. Kinda like "I had nothing better to do so I was wondering if you want to hang out". If you call a couple of days before it shows planning and you put more thought into it and that you actually want to go out with her because of her and not because you had nothing to do. I just think that's a better way to start especially if are looking for something more than a friendship. 🙂

Hrm....well I don't just ask girls out on dates cause I had nothing better to do, and I don't anyone who does. If I ask a girl it's because I'm interested in her...I thought that would be pretty obvious but maybe I need to re-think that.

Anyhow, I'm just gonna call her tomorrow at some point and see if she wants to go out either that night or just anytime she feels like. Anything wrong with that? (And yes, I'm actually asking, not getting smart with you).
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
Originally posted by: bolido2000
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
"Another Saturday night, and I ain't got nobody
I got some money cause I just paid
Oh how I wish I had someone to talk to
I'm in an awful way"

Everybody!

Anyway. I called her to ask her out tonight at around 5, little after. Her brother answered, she was still at work but should be home "soon." So, awhile later I call again, this time no one's home, I assume they went out to dinner or something. I just leave a message saying sorry I missed her again, left my number and told her I'd try again tomorrow.

It's now 8:30, a bit late to be planning a date, so even if she does call back tonight, I'll just ask her out for tomorrow. Since I doubt I will hear from her tonight, I'm just gonna try again tomorrow. My mom knows what I'm up to, and seems to think that asking out a girl out for that same night is rude, because they want "advance notice, or they'll feel like they were an after-thought." Yeah, whatever mom, I don't think a 17 year old girl is gonna be offended about being asked out for that evening. 😉

So there's the play-by-play of my evening, since I know you all care so much. All my friends are out with their significant others this evening, so I'm stuck here alone. Again. sigh. Ah well, if things dont work out, a friend of mine invited me to a party she's having tomorrow, so either way tomorrow won't be a total bust I guess.


Your mom is right. You should have called her earlier.

What you and my mother don't seem to understand is I'm not just limiting it to tonight, heh. It's not like "see me tonight or never!" heh. I was just planning on asking her if she'd like to go out. If she couldn't tonight for whatever reason, but is still interested, then we can set something up for another night.

I don't understand the logic of "it has to be for sometime other than this evening". If she had no plans tonight, and I had no plans, why sit at our separate homes doing nothing? There is nothing wrong with going out with someone the same night you asked. If there is, you're gonna have to explain it to me.


Nothing wrong with that. I just think it makes it look too casual. Kinda like "I had nothing better to do so I was wondering if you want to hang out". If you call a couple of days before it shows planning and you put more thought into it and that you actually want to go out with her because of her and not because you had nothing to do. I just think that's a better way to start especially if are looking for something more than a friendship. 🙂

Hrm....well I don't just ask girls out on dates cause I had nothing better to do, and I don't anyone who does. If I ask a girl it's because I'm interested in her...I thought that would be pretty obvious but maybe I need to re-think that.

Anyhow, I'm just gonna call her tomorrow at some point and see if she wants to go out either that night or just anytime she feels like. Anything wrong with that? (And yes, I'm actually asking, not getting smart with you).


If she says no, then of course go ahead and ask when if she wants to go out some other time. If she say yes then ask when is good. If she tells you she is busy these coming days then I would wait whatever days she said and call again one more time.

The thing is that what if she has plans for that night? The probability of a No increases if you are calling for a date the same day. I dunno about you but after 3 "No" (legit or not) I would start feeling crappy. If you call a Tuesday to ask her out on a Saturday is more likely that she says yes.
 
In case anyone happens to care, I called her and asked her out Thursday-we're going out on Sunday. 🙂

I'm not sure if she completely understands my intention here, I mean I was clear and everything, but either she was just expecting this for a long time or is really casual about the idea.

Oh well, I'm not gonna over-analyze it. We'll go out Sunday and hopefully have a good time, and take things from there.
 
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: MichaelD
This time of year? As in "winter?" As in "February?" As in "you will never, no way in hell ever actually obtain some female genital contact unless you stop being a weenie?"

Oh; VALENTINE'S DAY. Nooooooooo, no, no! Dont' do that. Then you have to buy a present/spend money. Wait until the following weekend. Don't worry, John; somewhere out there, there's a female that will actually touch your thingee. Maybe even twice if you spend money.

Honestly, you can be a d!ck.

Scott...I say go for it.

Were you trying to make a point, Deeko? Or were you just lamenting the fact that you couldn't hold onto a GF is she had handles and you had crazy glue on both your hands? 😛


Snickering here.. I don't always agree with your cynical outlook on things Michael but I gotta give you props here.. hahaha Deeko you just got owned,bigtime! 😀
yea, until you read farther down the page and realize that he is a poor fool who has no clue what he's talking about.

I've seen pics of Mike's GF, and I've seen pics of Deeko's ex-GF.

Deeko wins. 😉
 
Originally posted by: johnjohn320
In case anyone happens to care, I called her and asked her out Thursday-we're going out on Sunday. 🙂

I'm not sure if she completely understands my intention here, I mean I was clear and everything, but either she was just expecting this for a long time or is really casual about the idea.

Oh well, I'm not gonna over-analyze it. We'll go out Sunday and hopefully have a good time, and take things from there.

way to go!
 
I for one can't see why the date makes any difference. Just go ahead and pretend it's like any other day, if you need to.
 
Hate to bump it from the crypt, but aw, what the heck:

I am beyond confused at this point. It was last Thursday (over a week ago) I asked her out, and she said yes. We agreed on Sunday, but it never happened, because I couldn't get ahold of her to work out details. On Monday I mentioned that I tried to call her and she said "oh, sorry, I never get messages, my family's pretty bad about telling me when people call." Oh, ok, sounds reasonable.

But...All this week in school she's acted really distant and not really talking to me much, not being especially bitter or anything, just not conversational with me like she usually is. She only speaks to me when i speak to her first, and answers with short answers whenever possible. She used to always walk with me after class and chat, etc, now she rushes out of the building.

I know, I'm overanalyzing this to death, but I'm 17, so y'know, that's what we do.

So, I tried to call her last night, her mother answered and said "one moment" and went to go get her. While I was waiting, some static came on the line and we got disconnected I guess. I tried to call back (like 30 secs later) and got an answering machine-most peculiar. Tried again a little later in the night and still got an answering machine. I don't bother leaving messages on it because she made a point of telling me that she'll most likely never get the message if I leave it there.

Now, here's the debate I'm having with myself. I want to call her again today (today is Friday, we have the day off) to see if she wants to go out this weekned, but I don't wanna be a pest, y'know? Not even just to her, but to her parents. I don't wanna get all desperate-sounding, etc, and I know she's a pretty busy person. I just feel like I'm calling too much, but I still have only actually spoken to her on the phone once. That, and if she has been dropping some sort of hint this week and I'm just not getting it, then I'll really look like an idiot.

Sigh.

(And yes, I know that this problem is not one of great magnitude. But again, I'm 17, go easy on me).
 
your only hope is to completely ignore her and act like nothing happened... then she'll want your attention again and seek you out.

unfortunately, for most normal guys this is a complete impossibility. 17 year old girls are strange. they get a little more normal once they're out of HS (if that's any consolation).
 
Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: Geekbabe
Originally posted by: MichaelD
Originally posted by: Deeko
Originally posted by: MichaelD
This time of year? As in "winter?" As in "February?" As in "you will never, no way in hell ever actually obtain some female genital contact unless you stop being a weenie?"

Oh; VALENTINE'S DAY. Nooooooooo, no, no! Dont' do that. Then you have to buy a present/spend money. Wait until the following weekend. Don't worry, John; somewhere out there, there's a female that will actually touch your thingee. Maybe even twice if you spend money.

Honestly, you can be a d!ck.

Scott...I say go for it.

Were you trying to make a point, Deeko? Or were you just lamenting the fact that you couldn't hold onto a GF is she had handles and you had crazy glue on both your hands? 😛


Snickering here.. I don't always agree with your cynical outlook on things Michael but I gotta give you props here.. hahaha Deeko you just got owned,bigtime! 😀
yea, until you read farther down the page and realize that he is a poor fool who has no clue what he's talking about.

I've seen pics of Mike's GF, and I've seen pics of Deeko's ex-GF.

Deeko wins. 😉

booyah biotch 😛 She is begging for me back now too.

Scotty boy, hrm, tough situation. Do you see her at school or anything that you could talk to her in person? If not...try calling her once more...don't give up unless you get a definitive 'no'.
 
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