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Asians view Barack Obama as weak and capitulating to China

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Jhhnn said:
It's part of that neocon "American exceptionalism" thing - you're our enemy, or our vassal.

And they desperately need "enemies" to distract us from the looting spree here on the homefront...
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Well... I don't know what Dari's angle is, but it doesn't seem to be neocon. The article was a thinly-disguised pro-Japan piece supporting the removal of the American military presence from Okinawa, which the Obama administration outright rejected (and which I believe most neocons would likely agree with).
The OP's spin that this makes Asians view Obama as weak and capitulating to China is something he seems to have just made up all on his own. Like it or not, China is the major player in the region and needs to be treated as such.
And if anything, the American presence on Okinawa is just as threatening to China as it is to Japan (go look at a map).
 
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Siddhartha said:
YAOIWT: Yet another Obama Is Weak thread. Is there a website for these articles or maybe ATP&N is? This seems to be a recurring theme around here.

Or could this be one of things were if people keep repeating the same thing it becomes more believable?
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No, its just good citizens showing others the truths that they have seen. Many people here are blinded, and must be shown the light. That is the purpose of these posts. I know there are many fools here who are beyond hope, but they are not the target audience; it is those who are thinking men, those who do not buy into the propaganda that surrounds us daily, they are the ones who must read posts like this and come to their own conclusions based on all of the facts presented to them. Everyone knows this.
 
theflyingpig said:
No, its just good citizens showing others the truths that they have seen. Many people here are blinded, and must be shown the light. That is the purpose of these posts. I know there are many fools here who are beyond hope, but they are not the target audience; it is those who are thinking men, those who do not buy into the propaganda that surrounds us daily, they are the ones who must read posts like this and come to their own conclusions based on all of the facts presented to them. Everyone knows this.
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Which propaganda? CNN or Fox News? 😉
 
Vic said:
Which propaganda? CNN or Fox News? 😉
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CNN is a tsunami of ignorance sweeping across the nation. Nothing else even comes close. Fox News simply tells the truth, and allows the viewer to decide. Many here would argue that Fox only broadcasts propaganda. They are simply partisan hacks trying their best to hide the truths of the world from the thinking man. This is evident throughout this forum and many other liberal sites. Fools trying to hide the truth. Fools bashing Fox. Fools telling the thinking man lies. Fools trying to create more fools. It must stop now. It must stop here. Everyone knows this.
 
theflyingpig said:
CNN is a tsunami of ignorance sweeping across the nation. Nothing else even comes close. Fox News simply tells the truth, and allows the viewer to decide. Many here would argue that Fox only broadcasts propaganda. They are simply partisan hacks trying their best to hide the truths of the world from the thinking man. This is evident throughout this forum and many other liberal sites. Fools trying to hide the truth. Fools bashing Fox. Fools telling the thinking man lies. Fools trying to create more fools. It must stop now. It must stop here. Everyone knows this.
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LOL! So the brainwashed call the brainwashed brainwashed.

Unless this post here was a parody of some sort, I sincerely hope you don't think you're one of those 'thinking men' you spoke of, because you're not. Thinking men don't let anyone tell them what to think or what conclusions they should come to. Everyone knows this.

Buddy, I got bad news for you. You're just the other side of the same coin as these Fox-bashing 'liberals' you hate so much. All of you are brainwashed morons, stupid and lazy, who never had a single original thought in your lives and wouldn't know what's really going on even when it hits you over the head.
 
Vic said:
LOL! So the brainwashed call the brainwashed brainwashed.

Unless this post here was a parody of some sort, I sincerely hope you don't think you're one of those 'thinking men' you spoke of, because you're not. Thinking men don't let anyone tell them what to think or what conclusions they should come to. Everyone knows this.

Buddy, I got bad news for you. You're just the other side of the same coin as these Fox-bashing 'liberals' you hate so much. All of you are brainwashed morons, stupid and lazy, who never had a single original thought in your lives and wouldn't know what's really going on even when it hits you over the head.
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What is truly sad here is that you think my post is "a parody of some sort". That statement only serves to demonstrate the level of liberal brainwashing you have endured. All I can do for you now is to point you toward the truth, and hope that your eyes are not blinded to all that is around you. Watch Fox, then watch CNN. If you are a thinking man, you will see the lies and deceit of the liberal media. I pray for you, Vic. I pray that you are able to somehow claw your way out of the hole the liberal media has thrown you in.
 
theflyingpig said:
What is truly sad here is that you think my post is "a parody of some sort". That statement only serves to demonstrates the level of liberal brainwashing you have endured. All I can do for you now is to point you toward the truth, and hope that your eyes are not blinded to all that is around you. Watch Fox, then watch CNN. If you are a thinking man, you will see the lies and deceit of the liberal media. I pray for you, Vic. I pray that you are able to somehow claw your way out of the hole the liberal media has thrown you in.
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This coming from some freakish idiot who somehow thinks that politics and news are some kind of religion (in which apparently, only the Fox News faithful will be saved). WTF. I sincerely hope, for your sake, that you are a parody poster.

And hey, kindly stop throwing around phrases like "thinking man" as though you're some kind of objectivist. Were she alive today, Ayn Rand would have been just as scathing in her criticism of Fox News as she would be of CNN. For one reason, she was a rather militant atheist (something I'm just Beck forgot to tell you while he was just laying out those fact for you to making your own decision). For another, you're neither learned nor thoughtful, just ridiculous.
 
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theflyingpig said:
Oh praise Hannity! Oh praise Beck! I have seen the light of Fox News and have been saved from the satanical deceit of the liberal media! And now I will watch Fox News (and no other) every day and vote straight-ticket Republican because I am a thinking man!
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Everyone knows this 🙄
 
Vic said:
This coming from some freakish idiot who somehow thinks that politics and news are some kind of religion (in which apparently, only the Fox News faithful will be saved). WTF. I sincerely hope, for your sake, that you are a parody poster.

And hey, kindly stop throwing around phrases like "thinking man" as though you're some kind of objectivist. Were she alive today, Ayn Rand would have been just as scathing in her criticism of Fox News and she would be of CNN. For one reason, she was a rather militant atheist (something I'm just Beck forgot to tell you while he was just laying out those fact for you to making your own decision). For another, you're neither learned nor thoughtful, just ridiculous.
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I am objective. Unlike many on this forum, I am able to take a situation and look at all of the facts, and come to a rational decision. A thinking man does this. My purpose here is to educate those who are willing to think and evaluate situations based on facts, not emotions. That is the difference between a thinking man and the partisan hacks, like many on this board. You see, Vic, it is a difficult road that I travel. Sometimes I may go alone for months before meeting someone who is not a fool, and would choose to become educated rather than be bathed in the ignorance of the liberal media. It is for these men, that I post. The truth, Vic. The truth is all around you, all you have to do is open your eyes to see it. That is all I'm trying to do here. Everyone knows this.
 
Vic said:
Everyone knows this 🙄
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I didn't post that, you did, Vic. You posted it because you are trying to make it seem like I am some kind of fanatic, hell bent on supporting Fox News until the bitter end. Well, you are wrong. You are wrong because I only post the facts. When those facts show that Fox News is wrong, I do not ignore them, instead I embrace the truth. I am a thinking man, after all. Unlike you and your comrades, I am only interested in the truth, and it just so happens that Fox News is the best place to get it. I do watch all of the news programs though, just so that I can determine who is lying and who is not. That is what a thinking man does, after all, Vic. Everyone knows this.
 
theflyingpig said:
I am objective. Unlike many on this forum, I am able to take a situation and look at all of the facts, and come to a rational decision. A thinking man does this. My purpose here is to educate those who are willing to think and evaluate situations based on facts, not emotions. That is the difference between a thinking man and a partisan hacks, like many on this board. You see, Vic, it is a difficult road that I travel. Sometimes I may go alone for months before meeting someone who is not a fool, and would choose to become educated rather than be bathed in the ignorance of the liberal media. It is for these men, that I post. The truth, Vic. The truth is all around you, all you have to do is open your eyes to see it. That is all I'm trying to do here. Everyone knows this.
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The only truth here is that you're a brainwashed idiot with no education in political theory beyond what the right-wing propaganda machine sold you. Everyone knows this.

No, I'll stop mirroring your tactics and take you seriously for a moment. It'll be a waste of my time (which is why everyone else more or less ignores you), but what the hell.

Okay, where to start. First, you call yourself a rational thinking man but yet you believe you've discovered the one-and-only truth and that it's name is Fox News. That's kind of silly and not particularly objective, don't ya think? Objectivists, by definition, don't believe in such a thing as "The Truth," because to do so would require abandoning objectivity.
Second, you talk about education and being educated, but apparently all this education involves is hating liberals and everything liberal, as you never provide any details beyond that.
And then you speak of this one truth which you say everyone knows, but apparently "everyone" does not include all those liberal partisan hacks out there.

Ah fuck it, I am wasting my time.
 
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Asian men are small, everyone knows this. Oh we're talking geosyncromacroeconomicaltrade Well, Obama is a neocon, you just haven't noticed yet. Pay attention to Nobel speech. Bush could have wrote it.
 
theflyingpig said:
I didn't post that, you did, Vic. You posted it because you are trying to make it seem like I am some kind of fanatic, hell bent on supporting Fox News until the bitter end. Well, you are wrong. You are wrong because I only post the facts. When those facts show that Fox News is wrong, I do not ignore them, instead I embrace the truth. I am a thinking man, after all. Unlike you and your comrades, I am only interested in the truth, and it just so happens that Fox News is the best place to get it. I do watch all of the news programs though, just so that I can determine who is lying and who is not. That is what a thinking man does, after all, Vic. Everyone knows this.
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I posted what you have been posting throughout this thread, just condensed. I know your type quite well. You are indeed a zealot. And quite possibly a psychopathic one at that, although most zealots usually are. That's because zealots, being obsessed with some transcendental truth that they and only a select few are privileged to know, group the rest of humanity as infidels in order to dehumanize them.

Oh BTW, I'm sorry, who exactly are these comrades of mine you're making up? 🙄
 
What's liberal TFP? A label. A simplistic caging label. Shouldn't a 'thinking man' parse effective vs. noneffective? e.g. Objective.
 
Vic said:
This coming from some freakish idiot who somehow thinks that politics and news are some kind of religion (in which apparently, only the Fox News faithful will be saved). WTF. I sincerely hope, for your sake, that you are a parody poster.

And hey, kindly stop throwing around phrases like "thinking man" as though you're some kind of objectivist. Were she alive today, Ayn Rand would have been just as scathing in her criticism of Fox News as she would be of CNN. For one reason, she was a rather militant atheist (something I'm just Beck forgot to tell you while he was just laying out those fact for you to making your own decision). For another, you're neither learned nor thoughtful, just ridiculous.
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Vic, he's taking the piss.

He's no neo-conservative nor mass murderer and AFAIK he doesn't fry children in the stove either.

Sarcasm thinly veiled is still sarcasm my friend. 😉

Oh, and a merry Christmas to you.
 
Vic said:
So why then do we trade with them and by doing so make them rich and powerful?
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And we traded with Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Were they not our enemies? I'm not sure what your point is with regards to trade.


Siddhartha said:
YAOIWT: Yet another Obama Is Weak thread. Is there a website for these articles or maybe ATP&N is? This seems to be a recurring theme around here.

Or could this be one of things were if people keep repeating the same thing it becomes more believable?
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Well, it is true. But even if it wasn't true, people just have to say it enough time and provide enough evidence and it then becomes true in everyone's mind. In addition, it's an extremely powerful attack. How on earth can a weak President prove he's not weak?
 
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Dari said:
But even if it wasn't true, people just have to say it enough time and provide enough evidence and it then becomes true in everyone's mind.
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Standard "Big Lie" methodology. Repeat it often enough, claim to have "evidence", and it becomes the truth for the weak minded.

It helps to have some credibility in the first place, something now lacking on the Right. The results of their policies are self evident, and disastrous...
 
JohnOfSheffield said:
Vic, he's taking the piss.

He's no neo-conservative nor mass murderer and AFAIK he doesn't fry children in the stove either.

Sarcasm thinly veiled is still sarcasm my friend. 😉

Oh, and a merry Christmas to you.
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Well, I figured he must have been a parody poster but I dropped my sarcasm meter in my egg nog last night 😛

Merry Christmas to you too :cheers:
 
What is with all this Obama 'appears weak' BS? Whatever happened to "speak softly and carry a big stick?" It isn't like Obama is drastically cutting the military budget. Who appears weak and who is weak aren't necessarily the same. Why step on others' toes unless you intend to do it?
 
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." - Sun Tzu, Art of War, Chapter 1
 
Vic said:
"All warfare is based on deception. Hence, when we are able to attack, we must seem unable; when using our forces, we must appear inactive; when we are near, we must make the enemy believe we are far away; when far away, we must make him believe we are near." - Sun Tzu, Art of War, Chapter 1
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Unfortunately with Obama, that is not the case. When we seem weak, we really are. When we seem foolish, we really are. That is the failure of this administration. Our weakness is far to obvious to our enemies, and our leaders are far to easily manipulated. A General's decisions in a combat zone where usurped by fools in the liberal media. That right there shows the weakness of America. We are lucky the only country in the world capable of challenging us is dependent upon us to survive or else we would be destroyed. Everyone knows this.
 
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