As England Turns...

[superstition]

You are cutting and pasting seperate parts of my posts, taking things out of context. Dishonesty is the worst thing i know. If you have a problem with me, the mods DO know how to read for themselves so link the thread in a PFI thread or send a PM to the mods but as i have asked others not to, do NOT edit my posts to make it seem like i said something i didn't. you have a problem with me, the mods DO know how to read for themselves so link the thread in a PFI thread or send a PM to the mods but as i have asked others not to, do NOT edit my posts to make it seem like i said something i didn't.

1. I didn't feel the need to report anything. I did feel the need to ask you to tone down the rhetoric because I can't manage to read your posts to see what the actual points are given the high level of rhetorical noise.
2. The context is irrelevant to the point I was making.
3. There is nothing dishonest about my post. You said those things, and on the same page of this topic (which is clearly context enough). You can't claim you didn't say those things.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: superstition

You are cutting and pasting seperate parts of my posts, taking things out of context. Dishonesty is the worst thing i know. If you have a problem with me, the mods DO know how to read for themselves so link the thread in a PFI thread or send a PM to the mods but as i have asked others not to, do NOT edit my posts to make it seem like i said something i didn't. you have a problem with me, the mods DO know how to read for themselves so link the thread in a PFI thread or send a PM to the mods but as i have asked others not to, do NOT edit my posts to make it seem like i said something i didn't.

1. I didn't feel the need to report anything. I did feel the need to ask you to tone down the rhetoric because I can't manage to read your posts to see what the actual points are given the high level of rhetorical noise.
2. The context is irrelevant to the point I was making.
3. There is nothing dishonest about my post. You said those things, and on the same page of this topic (which is clearly context enough). You can't claim you didn't say those things.

1. the last twat that tried to play mod (who was at least honest enough to quote the entire posts) got banned, don't try to do that, if you find something you don't like, don't call someone out on it by forgering their posts, this is just me giving you a heads up, i am no mod and have no power on the issue, i just think you should know that.

2. context is everything, especially since you left out what i was responding to and made it seem like it was just aggrevation from my side, that is just daft and you know it.
3. yes there is, i told Lemon Law and as much as i might not respect his veiws i respect him as a man because he has the fucking guts not to pick and choose lies out of my posts without a context, so while we may disagree, we can debate, you could try that sometimes, you know, a debate without picking and choosing out of someones post and providing it with no context, if you are going to do that then what the fuck is there to debate?


you picked and chose and the intention got all screwed up, every mod gets that if he reads the thread, i will not complain if i get banned, but you should fucking get permabanned for your callouts of me in this thread.

Read the rules son, i didn't break them, you did.

 

[superstition]

I see only one candidate here for banning and it's not me.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: superstition
I see only one candidate here for banning and it me.

See how that works when you edit the message, although i didn't remove nearly as much characters and didn't combine posts without including context as you did.

You are a dishonest twat and i agree with you statement that you should be banned, after all, everyone can clearly see in my quote, that you asked for it.

 

[superstition]

See i don't give a flying **** what Muslims want and i don't give a flying FUCK what Christians want

Son, i am in Afghanistan, i am fighting REAL terrorists

I thought i gave you a ******* clue about

We're a daft bunch, we believe in shit like

You know where we got that from? From what the USA used to stand for? No, not really, you have never embraced freedom unless

you can shut the **** up Sinsear.

I changed my ******* view the last few days, get the fuck out of Iraq and GET BACK ON THE WOT that the rest of the fucking civilised world is fighting, you know, THE ONE YOU STARTED.

Explain how any of these statements are manipulative as your edit of mine is. They were posted for one reason, and that is to demonstrate rhetorical tone. It is your tone that I take issue with even more than the statements themselves. It is insulting, condescending, and obnoxious. Name-calling like "dishonest twat" is just more of the same, even without the caps and f-bombs.

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: superstition

See i don't give a flying **** what Muslims want and i don't give a flying FUCK what Christians want

Son, i am in Afghanistan, i am fighting REAL terrorists

I thought i gave you a ******* clue about

We're a daft bunch, we believe in shit like

You know where we got that from? From what the USA used to stand for? No, not really, you have never embraced freedom unless

you can shut the **** up Sinsear.

I changed my ******* view the last few days, get the fuck out of Iraq and GET BACK ON THE WOT that the rest of the fucking civilised world is fighting, you know, THE ONE YOU STARTED.

Explain how any of these statements are manipulative as your edit of mine is. They were posted for one reason, and that is to demonstrate rhetorical tone. It is your tone that I take issue with even more than the statements themselves. It is insulting, condescending, and obnoxious. Name-calling like "dishonest twat" is just more of the same, even without the caps and f-bombs.

Get this you stupid fucking twat, you are NOT a moderator on this forum, if you wish to do something about it then do NOT try to act like a moderator, others have been banned for doing so, this is the fair warning i am giving you my twat of a stalker.

You have edited my responses and not provided ANY context, none what so ever, it's just the fifth time i've told you and you still try to act like a mod.

What is it with you, are you extremely daft, did your mom smoke crack, what? WHY can't you get a simple sentence.

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: Socio
I was just trying to point out that while everyone?s attention is on the Middle East they are flanking us at home.

I would like to point out that it didn't take anymore of a Muslim presence in this nation than we have now for them to immigrate over here and hit us on 9-11. They don't have to be a majority to commit acts of war.

Last time they needed 19 men.

All our fighting over there does nothing for us over here. We?re branded as racists, bigots, and *phobes for ANY mention of Islam?s cancer. Then we?re said to be genocidal anti-freedom Nazis if we mention the need to cut out that cancer. That?s just in the last 2 pages.

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
The real Way it Goes When You're Trying to "Debate" with Delusional Islamophobes...

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is propaganda, it belongs in a different age, like 1939 and oh YES i did say that, the propaganda against the Muslims that people like Sinsear spews is not all that different from the propaganda spread by the Nazis in the late 30's and from there on, in fact, it is basically the same, "they are trying to take over our society, they hate our values, they are our enemies" could be a part of any speech Hitler ever made.

Originally posted by: hopeless74
what exactly do you propose then?

we blow up a few mosques and thin muslims numbers down, ethnic cleansing, genocide.

it takes alot to piss me off, but ur doing a good job.

No, tell us how you REALLY feel boys. About ANYONE who dares criticize religious supremacism backed by violence, which is apparently that idea of ?freedom? you so beloved as to assault us in its defense.

This obstinate squealing rhetoric colored by strawmen labels is your rebuttal for the simple notion that the western world needs to stand up for itself and condemn violence and condemn others imposing against us. HOW DARE WE urge moderate Muslims to become the mainstream voice of their community? HOW DARE WE demand a peaceful coexistence? Yes sirs, we must clearly be Nazis if we want to demand others live in peace with us.

Coexistence isn?t just a one way street of importing diversity where the natives get bent over and take it. You can ask Native Americans how well that worked out for them. Coexistence requires THAT BOTH SIDES accept peace and know their place. These nations are our homes and a man?s home is his castle. There should be no limit to the lengths we go to preserve and stand up for our culture. Islam?s supremacist cancer needs to be cut out for our coexistence. That which has bled us needs to be defanged.

Yet all we ever see from you is the assault against those of us who would draw this line. You want no resistance whatsoever and that cannot be allowed. This is a contest of will ? and in facing this challenge you want to surrender and disarm the entire western civilization. Lest you brand us evil.

 

[superstition]

Get this you stupid fucking twat, you are NOT a moderator on this forum, if you wish to do something about it then do NOT try to act like a moderator, others have been banned for doing so, this is the fair warning i am giving you my twat of a stalker.

While it's amusing to see abusive posters threaten others with bans, you're being repetitive and not addressing my post properly.

You have edited my responses and not provided ANY context, none what so ever, it's just the fifth time i've told you and you still try to act like a mod.

This "acting like a mod" herring is not at all central to the issue of your bad behavior here. If not for that, I would have no need to confront you as I have.

I don't have to be a mod to ask you to behave yourself.

Both of you need to stop derailing this thread with this personal feud you seem to have going on. superstition, you don't need to be the behavior police, if you have a problem with someone, there are better avenues to bring it up. And JOS, you're awfully close to another vacation...watch it.

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[m1ldslide1]

Originally posted by: Socio
I was just trying to point out that while everyone?s attention is on the Middle East they are flanking us at home.

This quote in particular makes me sad. :frown:

 

[JohnOfSheffield]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Socio
I was just trying to point out that while everyone?s attention is on the Middle East they are flanking us at home.

I would like to point out that it didn't take anymore of a Muslim presence in this nation than we have now for them to immigrate over here and hit us on 9-11. They don't have to be a majority to commit acts of war.

Last time they needed 19 men.

All our fighting over there does nothing for us over here. We?re branded as racists, bigots, and *phobes for ANY mention of Islam?s cancer. Then we?re said to be genocidal anti-freedom Nazis if we mention the need to cut out that cancer. That?s just in the last 2 pages.

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
The real Way it Goes When You're Trying to "Debate" with Delusional Islamophobes...

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is propaganda, it belongs in a different age, like 1939 and oh YES i did say that, the propaganda against the Muslims that people like Sinsear spews is not all that different from the propaganda spread by the Nazis in the late 30's and from there on, in fact, it is basically the same, "they are trying to take over our society, they hate our values, they are our enemies" could be a part of any speech Hitler ever made.

Originally posted by: hopeless74
what exactly do you propose then?

we blow up a few mosques and thin muslims numbers down, ethnic cleansing, genocide.

it takes alot to piss me off, but ur doing a good job.

No, tell us how you REALLY feel boys. About ANYONE who dares criticize religious supremacism backed by violence, which is apparently that idea of ?freedom? you so beloved as to assault us in its defense.

This obstinate squealing rhetoric colored by strawmen labels is your rebuttal for the simple notion that the western world needs to stand up for itself and condemn violence and condemn others imposing against us. HOW DARE WE urge moderate Muslims to become the mainstream voice of their community? HOW DARE WE demand a peaceful coexistence? Yes sirs, we must clearly be Nazis if we want to demand others live in peace with us.

Coexistence isn?t just a one way street of importing diversity where the natives get bent over and take it. You can ask Native Americans how well that worked out for them. Coexistence requires THAT BOTH SIDES accept peace and know their place. These nations are our homes and a man?s home is his castle. There should be no limit to the lengths we go to preserve and stand up for our culture. Islam?s supremacist cancer needs to be cut out for our coexistence. That which has bled us needs to be defanged.

Yet all we ever see from you is the assault against those of us who would draw this line. You want no resistance whatsoever and that cannot be allowed. This is a contest of will ? and in facing this challenge you want to surrender and disarm the entire western civilization. Lest you brand us evil.

How do i REALLY feel? well, i'll be a good sport and tell you son, i feel that you will never do anything but debate hate against a group of people, or maybe become a homegrown terrorist when you grow up, the kind that kicks little arabic kids in the face and runs.

I have no respect for you nor your kind what so ever, i put my life on the line to preserve the values you are trying to get a free nation to give up on.

In my eyes you are nothing but scum. I sincerely despise you and those like you.

I fight for Muslims every day, so does every on of the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, we fight the violent ones (who resemble people like yourself quite a bit) to protect the peaceful ones. You will now claim to know Muslims but you don't know one, you have probably never even spoken to one in your lifetime.

You disgust me with your "those like us" who are "those like you" KKK and the nazional socializts where you live?

 

[KMFJD]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: Socio
I was just trying to point out that while everyone?s attention is on the Middle East they are flanking us at home.

I would like to point out that it didn't take anymore of a Muslim presence in this nation than we have now for them to immigrate over here and hit us on 9-11. They don't have to be a majority to commit acts of war.

Last time they needed 19 men.

All our fighting over there does nothing for us over here. We?re branded as racists, bigots, and *phobes for ANY mention of Islam?s cancer. Then we?re said to be genocidal anti-freedom Nazis if we mention the need to cut out that cancer. That?s just in the last 2 pages.

Originally posted by: BMW540I6speed
The real Way it Goes When You're Trying to "Debate" with Delusional Islamophobes...

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
This is propaganda, it belongs in a different age, like 1939 and oh YES i did say that, the propaganda against the Muslims that people like Sinsear spews is not all that different from the propaganda spread by the Nazis in the late 30's and from there on, in fact, it is basically the same, "they are trying to take over our society, they hate our values, they are our enemies" could be a part of any speech Hitler ever made.

Originally posted by: hopeless74
what exactly do you propose then?

we blow up a few mosques and thin muslims numbers down, ethnic cleansing, genocide.

it takes alot to piss me off, but ur doing a good job.

No, tell us how you REALLY feel boys. About ANYONE who dares criticize religious supremacism backed by violence, which is apparently that idea of ?freedom? you so beloved as to assault us in its defense.

This obstinate squealing rhetoric colored by strawmen labels is your rebuttal for the simple notion that the western world needs to stand up for itself and condemn violence and condemn others imposing against us. HOW DARE WE urge moderate Muslims to become the mainstream voice of their community? HOW DARE WE demand a peaceful coexistence? Yes sirs, we must clearly be Nazis if we want to demand others live in peace with us.

Coexistence isn?t just a one way street of importing diversity where the natives get bent over and take it. You can ask Native Americans how well that worked out for them. Coexistence requires THAT BOTH SIDES accept peace and know their place. These nations are our homes and a man?s home is his castle. There should be no limit to the lengths we go to preserve and stand up for our culture. Islam?s supremacist cancer needs to be cut out for our coexistence. That which has bled us needs to be defanged.

Yet all we ever see from you is the assault against those of us who would draw this line. You want no resistance whatsoever and that cannot be allowed. This is a contest of will ? and in facing this challenge you want to surrender and disarm the entire western civilization. Lest you brand us evil.

How do i REALLY feel? well, i'll be a good sport and tell you son, i feel that you will never do anything but debate hate against a group of people, or maybe become a homegrown terrorist when you grow up, the kind that kicks little arabic kids in the face and runs.

I have no respect for you nor your kind what so ever, i put my life on the line to preserve the values you are trying to get a free nation to give up on.

In my eyes you are nothing but scum. I sincerely despise you and those like you.

I fight for Muslims every day, so does every on of the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, we fight the violent ones (who resemble people like yourself quite a bit) to protect the peaceful ones. You will now claim to know Muslims but you don't know one, you have probably never even spoken to one in your lifetime.

You disgust me with your "those like us" who are "those like you" KKK and the nazional socializts where you live?

:thumbsup:

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: JohnOfSheffield
How do i REALLY feel? well, i'll be a good sport and tell you son, i feel that you will never do anything but debate hate against a group of people, or maybe become a homegrown terrorist when you grow up, the kind that kicks little arabic kids in the face and runs.

I have no respect for you nor your kind what so ever, i put my life on the line to preserve the values you are trying to get a free nation to give up on.

In my eyes you are nothing but scum. I sincerely despise you and those like you.

I fight for Muslims every day, so does every on of the troops in Iraq and Afghanistan, we fight the violent ones (who resemble people like yourself quite a bit) to protect the peaceful ones. You will now claim to know Muslims but you don't know one, you have probably never even spoken to one in your lifetime.

You disgust me with your "those like us" who are "those like you" KKK and the nazional socializts where you live?

You utter that vitriol against everyone who said the KKK needed to be stopped? In this case I speak out to oppose religious supremacism backed by violence, and you become completely unhinged in its defense. I want the west to stand up for itself, and for moderate Muslims to take back their religion. Which is obviously worthy of that vitriol you spit.

Those who defend supremacist violence are evil. Be it the KKK defending White Supremacism or you defending Islamic Supremacism. I don?t care what stupidity lead you to hate everyone who doesn?t support the violence in Islam, but it is completely unacceptable and there will be nothing civil between us.

Your hatred needs to be stopped. Period.

 

[Socio]

Looks like it is not just the European countries having Muslim problems as now China is starting to get it share of Muslim related problems;

China discloses protest in Muslim region

SHANGHAI: Chinese officials said Wednesday they were grappling with ethnic unrest on a second front, in the northwestern region of Xinjiang, where Uighur Muslims protested Chinese rule late last month even as Tibetans rioted in the southwest.

One Uighur demonstration, which appears to have been quickly suppressed, took place in the town of Hotan on March 23, at the same time China was deploying thousands of security forces across a broad swath of its southwest to put down Tibetan unrest.

Officials said the protest had been staged by Islamic separatist groups seeking to foment a broader uprising in Xinjiang. China often blames any ethnic disturbances on what it calls splittists and terrorists. Human rights groups say that Chinese Uighurs, like Tibetans, have fought for greater freedom to practice their religion as well as more autonomy from Beijing

Two weeks before the reported protest in Hotan, China announced the discovery of what it called a terrorist plot in Xinjiang, which it said involved the smuggling of combustible liquids onto a commercial airliner by a Uighur woman who had spent time in neighboring Pakistan.

 

[superstition]

How do i REALLY feel? well, i'll be a good sport and tell you son

Calling someone "son" is a lot like calling someone "boy". It's patronizing and insulting.

I have no respect for you nor your kind what so ever...

In my eyes you are nothing but scum. I sincerely despise you and those like you.

You disgust me...

It's obvious that nothing has changed, and if I continue to ask you to behave yourself a moderator will talk to me like I'm a little boy who has to put up with abusive posting because I'm not a "mod" and therefore not a full human being who has the right to read topics that are free from abuse.

The notion that I'm at fault for "de-railing" the topic is ludicrous. I'm not the one who is dropping f-bombs, calling people son, saying things like "you are nothing but scum", and calling people names like twat.

If I am banned for calling you out again, then I will be happy because I don't want to be part of a forum where you can behave as you have in this topic and I am not allowed to voice my opinion.