As Bush Prepares for War

[43st]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera
In a related news conference Bush stated that plans to repeal the 19th amendment were going well and the House should be able to vote on it sometime in the very near future. Bush is quoted as saying "I'm sick and tired of all these women turning out at the ballot box, they'll do what we tell 'em to do and they'll like it".

Few people in the world make me truly angry. You are one of those few that do...your blind allegiance to far left liberal/socialist ideals and your hatred for a man just because he is a Republican make me sick. You are a perfect example of party line stupidity. Maybe I should rethink my beliefs on abortion if banning it would mean that more people like you would be born.

I think someone put there pad on backwards today. Remember, sticky side down missy.

I'm also fond of your party line affiliation. I thought the GOP was the pro-freedom/less government party? I guess the abortion issue goes against personal freedom, who would've thought the GOP is against freedom?

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Millenium

Who said anything about a draft, fool? What age do you think most of the enlisted men who die in combat are?

What makes you think it would be men age 18-25? Even in Vietnam when we had the draft and allowed such young people to go the average age of someone killed was 22.8.

My whole point is that people in the military are there by CHOICE. You cannot blame someone's death on being forced to Iraq when there is no draft.

You CAN blame their death on the president who sends troops around the world for no good reason.

Oh good grief. If taking out thugs who funnel money to terroists, allow them to use their country for training, who are developing WMD, and who would rather kill their own people than let them vote is wrong.......then baby....I don't wanna be right.

Don't worry, you arent'...

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Millenium

Who said anything about a draft, fool? What age do you think most of the enlisted men who die in combat are?

What makes you think it would be men age 18-25? Even in Vietnam when we had the draft and allowed such young people to go the average age of someone killed was 22.8.

My whole point is that people in the military are there by CHOICE. You cannot blame someone's death on being forced to Iraq when there is no draft.

You CAN blame their death on the president who sends troops around the world for no good reason.

There you go. I just wanted to hear you say blame Bush again.

If the inspectors found evidence of WMD, I think Bush would have overwhelming support. As it stands, it's starting to go beyond saber rattling and become "we will invade whether we find WMD or not".

 

[jahawkin]

Bush said:

reaffirm the value of human life and renew our dedication to ensuring that every American has access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

Note how he stressed that every American has access.... Clearly this sanctity of life doesn't apply if you're, oh, say an Iraqi woman, man or child.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: axiom
SnapIt: My point was simple. The people of Iraq don't have a choice as it stands right now. In the minds of Saddam they have a choice, why else would they have elections where EVERYONE VOTED FOR SADDAM? Do the people of Iraq support WMD programs? If you want to talk about choice make sure it is in the context of equal consideration.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera
In a related news conference Bush stated that plans to repeal the 19th amendment were going well and the House should be able to vote on it sometime in the very near future. Bush is quoted as saying "I'm sick and tired of all these women turning out at the ballot box, they'll do what we tell 'em to do and they'll like it".

Few people in the world make me truly angry. You are one of those few that do...your blind allegiance to far left liberal/socialist ideals and your hatred for a man just because he is a Republican make me sick. You are a perfect example of party line stupidity. Maybe I should rethink my beliefs on abortion if banning it would mean that more people like you would be born.

I think someone put there pad on backwards today. Remember, sticky side down missy.

I'm also fond of your party line affiliation. I thought the GOP was the pro-freedom/less government party? I guess the abortion issue goes against personal freedom, who would've thought the GOP is against freedom?

Well I am a Republican but I'm not a strict party liner.... You want to talk freedom? How about the freedom that the unborn child is being denied. Freedom led to mommy and daddy making the baby and with that freedom comes responsibility. You don't want a kid? Then use birth control. It's that simple. Abortion on demand is nothing more than birth control for the irresponsible and lazy.

 

[BoberFett]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Millenium

Who said anything about a draft, fool? What age do you think most of the enlisted men who die in combat are?

What makes you think it would be men age 18-25? Even in Vietnam when we had the draft and allowed such young people to go the average age of someone killed was 22.8.

My whole point is that people in the military are there by CHOICE. You cannot blame someone's death on being forced to Iraq when there is no draft.

You CAN blame their death on the president who sends troops around the world for no good reason.

Oh good grief. If taking out thugs who funnel money to terroists, allow them to use their country for training, who are developing WMD, and who would rather kill their own people than let them vote is wrong.......then baby....I don't wanna be right.

I assume you have proof of those allegations. I mean, you wouldn't say those things without evidence, right?

 

[jahawkin]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: jahawkin
Bush said:

reaffirm the value of human life and renew our dedication to ensuring that every American has access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

Note how he stressed that every American has access.... Clearly this sanctity of life doesn't apply if you're, oh, say an Iraqi woman, man or child.

My Iraqi neighbor would probably disagree with you. He'd probably punch you in the face for insulting him.

I think your Iraqi neighbor would pick up on the sarcasm.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: jahawkin
Bush said:

reaffirm the value of human life and renew our dedication to ensuring that every American has access to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness

Note how he stressed that every American has access.... Clearly this sanctity of life doesn't apply if you're, oh, say an Iraqi woman, man or child.

My Iraqi neighbor would probably disagree with you. He'd probably punch you in the face for insulting him.

Are you high?

 

[Red Dawn]

So much anger in this thread. I should post threads more often

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So much anger in this thread. I should post threads more often

LOL.... you KNEW what was going to happen...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: axiom
Nope, I am not high. My Iraqi neighbor just happens to be an American and he's pretty proud of it. Been working his ass off since he came to America trying to get the rest of his family here. You see, he's got first hand experience as to how retarded Saddam is.

Just like we are getting first hand experience about how retarded you are!

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: axiom
Nope, I am not high. My Iraqi neighbor just happens to be an American and he's pretty proud of it. Been working his ass off since he came to America trying to get the rest of his family here. You see, he's got first hand experience as to how retarded Saddam is.

So is he Iraki or American?

Saddam is nobody's hero, but if someone is going to overthrow him, it has to be the Irakis...

 

[43st]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera
In a related news conference Bush stated that plans to repeal the 19th amendment were going well and the House should be able to vote on it sometime in the very near future. Bush is quoted as saying "I'm sick and tired of all these women turning out at the ballot box, they'll do what we tell 'em to do and they'll like it".

Few people in the world make me truly angry. You are one of those few that do...your blind allegiance to far left liberal/socialist ideals and your hatred for a man just because he is a Republican make me sick. You are a perfect example of party line stupidity. Maybe I should rethink my beliefs on abortion if banning it would mean that more people like you would be born.

I think someone put there pad on backwards today. Remember, sticky side down missy.

I'm also fond of your party line affiliation. I thought the GOP was the pro-freedom/less government party? I guess the abortion issue goes against personal freedom, who would've thought the GOP is against freedom?

Well I am a Republican but I'm not a strict party liner.... You want to talk freedom? How about the freedom that the unborn child is being denied. Freedom led to mommy and daddy making the baby and with that freedom comes responsibility. You don't want a kid? Then use birth control. It's that simple. Abortion on demand is nothing more than birth control for the irresponsible and lazy.

Sounds good to me. You want to ban things that hurt or kill people, I'm right with you. Let's make a list of things that we need to ban because they can hurt or kill someone...

1. ban beer/liquor
2. ban guns
3. ban cigarettes
4. ban sharp things

Oh... I bet you're going to say that these items are ok and that it's up the individual to use them properly? Like abortion right?

 

[Antisocial Virge]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So much anger in this thread. I should post threads more often

Better than %90 of the usual threads.

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera
In a related news conference Bush stated that plans to repeal the 19th amendment were going well and the House should be able to vote on it sometime in the very near future. Bush is quoted as saying "I'm sick and tired of all these women turning out at the ballot box, they'll do what we tell 'em to do and they'll like it".

Few people in the world make me truly angry. You are one of those few that do...your blind allegiance to far left liberal/socialist ideals and your hatred for a man just because he is a Republican make me sick. You are a perfect example of party line stupidity. Maybe I should rethink my beliefs on abortion if banning it would mean that more people like you would be born.

I think someone put there pad on backwards today. Remember, sticky side down missy.

I'm also fond of your party line affiliation. I thought the GOP was the pro-freedom/less government party? I guess the abortion issue goes against personal freedom, who would've thought the GOP is against freedom?

Well I am a Republican but I'm not a strict party liner.... You want to talk freedom? How about the freedom that the unborn child is being denied. Freedom led to mommy and daddy making the baby and with that freedom comes responsibility. You don't want a kid? Then use birth control. It's that simple. Abortion on demand is nothing more than birth control for the irresponsible and lazy.

Sounds good to me. You want to ban things that hurt or kill people, I'm right with you. Let's make a list of things that we need to ban because they can hurt or kill someone...

1. ban beer/liquor
2. ban guns
3. ban cigarettes
4. ban sharp things

Oh... I bet you're going to say that these items are ok and that it's up the individual to use them properly? Like abortion right?

Although i am pro-choice (and thankfully, i live in a country where it is not even questioned whether you should have that right or not) your logic is flawed...

If you use sharp things or guns to kill people you will get arrested...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: axiom
Can anyone point out to me where President Bush is calling for a ban on abortion? If you cannot, I'll ask that you please refrain from pretending he is.

Why, you pretend to act like you know what is good for everybody!

 

[Zebo]

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: axiom
Nope, I am not high. My Iraqi neighbor just happens to be an American and he's pretty proud of it. Been working his ass off since he came to America trying to get the rest of his family here. You see, he's got first hand experience as to how retarded Saddam is.

So is he Iraki or American?

Saddam is nobody's hero, but if someone is going to overthrow him, it has to be the Irakis...

And how are they going to do that exactly? the 10.000 richest people over there have ALL the guns, weapons and economic power and they want Saddam there in power since he directly benefits them though subjuation of the iraki people. Just like in SA with the royal family a revolution is an impossiblity without outside intervention.

 

[shiner]

Originally posted by: Thera

Sounds good to me. You want to ban things that hurt or kill people, I'm right with you. Let's make a list of things that we need to ban because they can hurt or kill someone...

1. ban beer/liquor
2. ban guns
3. ban cigarettes
4. ban sharp things

Oh... I bet you're going to say that these items are ok and that it's up the individual to use them properly? Like abortion right?

Nice try toolina but those are separate issues. The person buying a gun, liquor, cigarettes, etc, etc, does so due to personal choice. Use the gun to kill yourself and that's fine. Get drunk and run off the road and die and that's fine to. Smoke to many cigarettes, get lung cancer then die, that's fine to. Have sex, end up with a kid, decide it's a burden so you kill it, well that's not fine. What's the difference? The unborn child never had the choice to make a live or die decision. You see the difference is that with guns, liquor, smokes, fatty foods, etc... is that you get to chose how you live and die. Have an abortion and you have decided how someone else dies. Kinda like murder you know.....

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: axiom
Can anyone point out to me where President Bush is calling for a ban on abortion? If you cannot, I'll ask that you please refrain from pretending he is.

"Every child is a priority and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and protected by law," Bush's proclamation said.

did you get it this time?

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: shinerburke

Originally posted by: Thera

Sounds good to me. You want to ban things that hurt or kill people, I'm right with you. Let's make a list of things that we need to ban because they can hurt or kill someone...

1. ban beer/liquor
2. ban guns
3. ban cigarettes
4. ban sharp things

Oh... I bet you're going to say that these items are ok and that it's up the individual to use them properly? Like abortion right?

Nice try toolina but those are separate issues. The person buying a gun, liquor, cigarettes, etc, etc, does so due to personal choice. Use the gun to kill yourself and that's fine. Get drunk and run off the road and die and that's fine to. Smoke to many cigarettes, get lung cancer then die, that's fine to. Have sex, end up with a kid, decide it's a burden so you kill it, well that's not fine. What's the difference? The unborn child never had the choice to make a live or die decision. You see the difference is that with guns, liquor, smokes, fatty foods, etc... is that you get to chose how you live and die. Have an abortion and you have decided how someone else dies. Kinda like murder you know.....

Actually, suicide is illegal...

 

[Red Dawn]

Originally posted by: axiom

Originally posted by: Red Dawn

Originally posted by: axiom
Can anyone point out to me where President Bush is calling for a ban on abortion? If you cannot, I'll ask that you please refrain from pretending he is.

Why, you pretend to act like you know what is good for everybody!

I don't know what is best for everybody. I'm sorry you've taken the opinion that I do. However, I don't think anyone has a right to lie about something and not expect to be taken up on it.

So if you want to address my question, please do.

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"Every child is a priority and a blessing, and I believe that all should be welcomed in life and protected by law," Bush's proclamation said.
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[Spamela]

Originally posted by: Red Dawn
So much anger in this thread. I should post threads more often

you're not exactly a healer, are you?

 

[SnapIT]

Originally posted by: Carbonyl

Originally posted by: SnapIT

Originally posted by: axiom
Nope, I am not high. My Iraqi neighbor just happens to be an American and he's pretty proud of it. Been working his ass off since he came to America trying to get the rest of his family here. You see, he's got first hand experience as to how retarded Saddam is.

So is he Iraki or American?

Saddam is nobody's hero, but if someone is going to overthrow him, it has to be the Irakis...

And how are they going to do that exactly? the 10.000 richest people over there have ALL the guns, weapons and economic power and they want Saddam there in power since he directly benefits them though subjuation of the iraki people. Just like in SA with the royal family a revolution is an impossiblity without outside intervention.

Remember Russia? A few years before that happened, nobody believed it could have been done...

If you are going to help overthrow Saddam, that should be done by supporting the opposition...

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett

Originally posted by: Millennium

Originally posted by: BoberFett
Millenium

Who said anything about a draft, fool? What age do you think most of the enlisted men who die in combat are?

What makes you think it would be men age 18-25? Even in Vietnam when we had the draft and allowed such young people to go the average age of someone killed was 22.8.

My whole point is that people in the military are there by CHOICE. You cannot blame someone's death on being forced to Iraq when there is no draft.

You CAN blame their death on the president who sends troops around the world for no good reason.

There you go. I just wanted to hear you say blame Bush again.

If the inspectors found evidence of WMD, I think Bush would have overwhelming support. As it stands, it's starting to go beyond saber rattling and become "we will invade whether we find WMD or not".

It has to be hard to find any evidence when Saddam does not allow unrestricted access without government officials and doesn't allow his scientist to be interviewed alone. These are not the actions of an innocent man.