Arrested for having a pressure cooker

[pontifex]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ressure-cooker-arrested-19169723#.UZGttspft-U


does seem a bit fishy with all the other stuff about altered passport, but if he was really going to commit a terrorist attack with it, seems pretty damn stupid to fly with it from Saudi Arabia to the US. Why not just buy one when he got here if he was just going to use it as a bomb.

 

[Pulsar]

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/...ressure-cooker-arrested-19169723#.UZGttspft-U


does seem a bit fishy with all the other stuff about altered passport, but if he was really going to commit a terrorist attack with it, seems pretty damn stupid to fly with it from Saudi Arabia to the US. Why not just buy one when he got here if he was just going to use it as a bomb.

Read more carefully. It was not 'altered', it was missing a page. It could have fallen out, or been ripped out by careless border agents at any number of airports.

It makes NO sense to bring a pressure cooker here to commit a crime. So much easier to buy one cash and have there be no paper trailer. Flying one in from around the world? Holy crap, that's a stretch.

 

[pontifex]

Read more carefully. It was not 'altered', it was missing a page. It could have fallen out, or been ripped out by careless border agents at any number of airports.

It makes NO sense to bring a pressure cooker here to commit a crime. So much easier to buy one cash and have there be no paper trailer. Flying one in from around the world? Holy crap, that's a stretch.

so a page ripped out, even by accident, isn't altered?

you have a passport fully intact, then the same passport has a page missing. what do you call that?

 

[Pulsar]

so a page ripped out, even by accident, isn't altered?

you have a passport fully intact, then the same passport has a page missing. what do you call that?

Damaged.

It's all the games that the news/police plays to slant the story. If they stated the passport was 'damaged', people would be curious.

Altered suggests that something was intentionally done (by the owner), and makes it look like he did something that he should not have.

 

[phucheneh]

Yeah...if somebody dings your car, you don't say they 'altered' it. They damaged it. 'Altered' is just 'modified,' but often with connotations that are a little more nefarious.

 

[mugs]

Yeah, he wasn't arrested for having a pressure cooker. He was arrested for the altered passport and for lying about the pressure cooker.

 

[Kadarin]

From here: http://security.blogs.cnn.com/2013/...re-cooker-problematic-for-traveler/?hpt=hp_t2

During followup security screening, customs officers discovered a pressure cooker in his luggage.

Pressure cookers are not illegal but have been in the spotlight since authorities said they were used in the Boston Marathon bombings.

"Initially, he said that he brought the pressure cooker for his nephew because pressure cookers are not sold in America," the complaint said.

But Hussain allegedly changed his story and said his nephew had purchased one in the United States that "was cheap" and broke after its first use, officers reported.

Based on the conflicting stories and missing pages in his passport, Hussain was arrested and charged with altering a passport and making materially false statements.

This guy is a fucking idiot, and probably is a terrorist. My guess is that he tore out the page in the passport that showed his trip to Pakistan.

 

[AlienCraft]

I think the only solution is universal background checks for all pressure cooker sales. It's the only way to be sure.

 

[Kadarin]

I think the only solution is universal background checks for all pressure cooker sales. It's the only way to be sure.

Ban all assault pressure cookers, and limit the remaining models to a capacity of five pints?

 

[brainhulk]

"from my cold, dead hands"

-Betty Crocker

 

[phucheneh]

"from my cold, dead hands"

-Betty Crocker

I think she's pretty dead.

...did you get that old slut's pressure cooker?

 

[Mixolydian]

Damn noobs. THIS is a pressure cooker:

 

[T_Yamamoto]

Ban pressure cookers.
Ban it allll

 

[Genx87]

Ban all assault pressure cookers, and limit the remaining models to a capacity of five pints?

Exactly and we should probably create a new federal agency to regulate these WMD.

 

[Genx87]

Damn noobs. THIS is a pressure cooker:

Those are like the nukes of pressure cookers. The UN should create an agency to monitor these things.

 

[lothar]

Read more carefully. It was not 'altered', it was missing a page. It could have fallen out, or been ripped out by careless border agents at any number of airports.

It makes NO sense to bring a pressure cooker here to commit a crime. So much easier to buy one cash and have there be no paper trailer. Flying one in from around the world? Holy crap, that's a stretch.

What if the page that was missing had information about him going to Russia/Chenchya, Pakistan, or Yemen?

Yes, it's missing a page.
And yes, it also could have purposely been ripped out by himself if he visited any of those countries.
You can't automatically assume that because a page is ripped out or missing that it's not possible for it to have been purposely altered.

 

[Genx87]

What if the page that was missing had information about him going to Russia/Chenchya, Pakistan, or Yemen?

Yes, it's missing a page.
And yes, it also could have purposely been ripped out by himself if he visited any of those countries.
You can't automatically assume that because a page is ripped out or missing that it's not possible for it to have been purposely altered.

And what if it did? Holy shiiite somebody visited a country!

 

[WelshBloke]

Who the hell flies with a pressure cooker?

 

[brainhulk]

Who the hell flies with a pressure cooker?

for reals, did he not know the cabin is pressurized already?

 

[Rebel44]

What if the page that was missing had information about him going to Russia/Chenchya, Pakistan, or Yemen?

Yes, it's missing a page.
And yes, it also could have purposely been ripped out by himself if he visited any of those countries.
You can't automatically assume that because a page is ripped out or missing that it's not possible for it to have been purposely altered.

It would be much easier to claim that passport was lost/stolen and get a new one.

 

[Jaskalas]

Pre-crime?

Don't have a bomb, but have a common object that may turn into one. Somebody call Tom Cruise.

Wait!... It's a Muslim, better call Kiefer Sutherland.

 

[Saint Nick]

Whatever: 'merica.

 

[WelshBloke]

for reals, did he not know the cabin is pressurized already?

Ah! Good point. Cabin pressure is probably low enough that you need a pressure cooker for an in flight curry rather than just getting out a primus stove and saucepan. :thumbup:

 

[lothar]

It would be much easier to claim that passport was lost/stolen and get a new one.

Depends.
Claiming a passport as lost or stolen costs money(lets say $100 or so, if not more) and could have a processing time of 6 weeks or longer.

On the other hand, tearing out a page takes only seconds and doesn't cost any money.

 

[Fern]

Read more carefully. It was not 'altered', it was missing a page. It could have fallen out, or been ripped out by careless border agents at any number of airports.
-snip-

I've been through so many border crossings that I've run through several passports (all the pages were filled border stamps etc.).

I've never seen any border agent rip any passport page.

Fern