Army Bans Use of Privately Bought Armor

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Colonel C

Originally posted by: Apocalypse
OMG--- you guys have no reason even commenting on body armor until you have been there and done that.

That argument is just a stupid copout.

Is it? I would say it is valid for anyone making determinations about the effectiveness and use of the armor.

 

[CycloWizard]

Originally posted by: fitzov
You left out this step:

4. If the bid would go to some company other than Bechtel, return to step 1.

No, I simply forgot your governing axiom: if you don't know what you're talking about, make up some BS that coincides with your story.

 

[Gaard]

The way the military works is the following:

1. Any company submits a material/piece of equipment for testing.
2. The military runs an extensive battery of tests on said material/equipment.
3. If the material/equipment meets all specifications, then that company is added to the supplier list for the relevant specification. If it does not meet the specification, then it is left off the list. The company may resubmit for another test at any time.

I see (I think). So what they do is...any 'approved' armor is 'issued' to an individual who wants that particular armor? There's no such thing as "This is approved, you can have it if you want it but we won't supply it for you" ?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Gaard

The way the military works is the following:

1. Any company submits a material/piece of equipment for testing.
2. The military runs an extensive battery of tests on said material/equipment.
3. If the material/equipment meets all specifications, then that company is added to the supplier list for the relevant specification. If it does not meet the specification, then it is left off the list. The company may resubmit for another test at any time.

I see (I think). So what they do is...any 'approved' armor is 'issued' to an individual who wants that particular armor? There's no such thing as "This is approved, you can have it if you want it but we won't supply it for you" ?

there are knives, GPS devices, slings, kneepads, and various other smaller items that you can buy yourself, but the rest is all issued in approved sets; and if you absolutely NEED something special to do your job, they'll give it to you or reimburse you for it.

I spent 14 months running combat missions last year, with a national guard unit no less, and we were not in need of anything at all. Everything we asked for, we received without any problems. Our armor, gear, and weapons were all topnotch.

 

[Todd33]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I spent 14 months running combat missions last year, with a national guard unit no less, and we were not in need of anything at all. Everything we asked for, we received without any problems. Our armor, gear, and weapons were all topnotch.

Now if we could just hear from the other 129,900 people over there. You would ever say anything bad about the operations over there, at least not to us "anti's". According to you things are going as planned and the Pentagon and top brass have exceeded expectations.

How do you do something for 14 months in a year?

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: Todd33

Originally posted by: palehorse74
I spent 14 months running combat missions last year, with a national guard unit no less, and we were not in need of anything at all. Everything we asked for, we received without any problems. Our armor, gear, and weapons were all topnotch.

Now if we could just hear from the other 129,900 people over there. You would ever say anything bad about the operations over there, at least not to us "anti's". According to you things are going as planned and the Pentagon and top brass have exceeded expectations.

How do you do something for 14 months in a year?

not everything is going perfectly over there, but issued body armor has not been an issue for several years now. THAT was the point.

now, as for the 14 months, it was easier than giving specific dates. it figures you would harp on that while missing the actual point...