Area 51 secrets unveiled by Google

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Armitage

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: K1052
That looks like one of the radioactive waste storage sites. They cover the waste with dirt after it is deposited thereby making those mounds.

That makes sense.

Originally posted by: Armitage
Judging from the large ridge just above the road you describe, it seems clear to me that the shadow is to the upper left, indicating the sun is in the lower right (are images in google maps for-sure oriented North up?).

Oh for the love of pete. Direction is relative. Do I really need a "IN RELATION TO THE DIRECTION THE IMAGES WERE TAKEN, ASSUME THE TOP OF THE PICTURE IS NORTH" disclaimer?

:roll: I'd rather not assume, but in any case the question was out of curiosity as much as anything.

The building on the flat plain above that ridge also indicate a shadow to the upper left. I don't see any discernable shadows from the roads, and the roads could as well be raised above the terrain as below it.

Have you ever seen a 70-year old roadway in the sand that became raised the more you drove on it? Now, not saying that the roadway IS 70 years old, but come on. Sand roads go *down* over time and it doesn't make any sense for anyone to constantly keep having to go dig up more sand and lay it out for roadways in the DESERT.

Well, I've been on bases in the desert where the roads were built elevated above the surrounding terrain. Why? Because occasionally it does rain, and then you have a muddy impassable mess if your road is at or below grade. In any case there are other objects in the picture that cast much clearer shadows that indicate that these are craters and not mounds.
 

archcommus

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So how does one get a job at a place like this? Honestly, how do you get "in" enough with the government to work there?

Who really cares what they're working on. New kinds of bombs? Whoop-dee-doo. Now ground-breaking physics and technology, that would be very cool, but really, when would we ever see the effects of it? Probably never.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Armitage
In any case there are other objects in the picture that cast much clearer shadows that indicate that these are craters and not mounds.

Where? Which ones? Explain?
 

Armitage

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Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Armitage
In any case there are other objects in the picture that cast much clearer shadows that indicate that these are craters and not mounds.

Where? Which ones? Explain?

I already did above - the large ridge, the buildings - all have shadows to the upper left.
 

NikPreviousAcct

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Originally posted by: Armitage
Originally posted by: Nik
Originally posted by: Armitage
In any case there are other objects in the picture that cast much clearer shadows that indicate that these are craters and not mounds.

Where? Which ones? Explain?

I already did above - the large ridge, the buildings - all have shadows to the upper left.

Funny, I see shadows to the lower right :confused:
 

JoeKing

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That's BS! That was the first thing I looked up with nasa's version of the world map and posted it on this forum a few weeks ago:|


I like Nasa's mapping software better anyway :p
 

halik

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Originally posted by: Parrotheader
Hasn't this satellite imagery been available on other networks for years now? I could've sworn people had already done this with Mapquest, Terraserver, etc.

Either way, those green ovals aren't unique to that area. Not quite sure what they are or why the field is planted that way, but somebody on another forum was posting a link to their house out in one of the plains states and a lot of the fields there looked exactly like that.

yeah... but its cooler now because its google :roll:
 

Armitage

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It seems that google has pulled some of the higher resolution stuff for this location. When I tried to recreate the images of Mercury NV above to show Nik some more shadows, I get the message
We're sorry but we don't have imagery at this zoom level at this region. Try zooming out for a broader look

That's at the 3rd bar down on the zoom scale. The linked images have the zoom bar all the way up.

I tried typing in the URL from the image linked above also with no luck.
 

OutHouse

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what an idiot. My first base was Nellis, and i knew a few cops that were stationed at Dreamland. thats all im going to say.
 

Bootprint

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Originally posted by: Nik
Citrix, wtf are you talking about?

Dreamland is another codeword for the base at Area 51.


I wonder if they still has the Janet flights into the base daily with the workers?
 

Armitage

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Another bit on the craters vs. mounds question. Note the smooth area in the middle - that is sediment washed into the craters. You can see the erosion on the sides. In fact, you can see a shadow from the erosion ditch on the right side of the center crater at the bottom.
 

Rudee

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Originally posted by: Malladine
ah yes, secrets. There are buildings and :shocked: runways!

No kidding. how this trivial garbage made the news is beyond me.

 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: LordSnailz
So what's the deal with area51 that feds are not coming forward about?

A lot of people work there and it is heavily guarded.

Had a friend that worked there and he would not say what he did there even as he was taking his last breaths.

Dave, with your obsession for government conspiracies and such, I wouldn't tell you what I did either....even if all I did was work in the Department of Housing and Urban Development.
 

vegetation

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Just FYI,

Area51 itself is/was hardly worth any interest. Sure, it's secret but that's only because there's a lot of classified research going on. Big deal, that type of stuff goes around all the country. Most of it is uninteresting, tax wasting dollars. You can actually go to the border of Area51 and take photos, etc. Just don't cross the lines, else highly trained Wackenhut security guards may apprehend you then turn you over to the county sheriff for tresspassing.

The real interest is Papoose lake, located adjacent to the other side of a mountain range separating Area51. Here it is where Bob Lazar states an underground facility holds UFO's, and even the highly screened Area51 employees could not access Papoose. That is the real mystery. There's no way to get even near Papoose lake, except through Area51. Though there was a news incident some time ago about some hiker who actually made it onto Papoose, then was apprehended. Not sure what happened after that.


 

91TTZ

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Originally posted by: vegetation
Just FYI,

Area51 itself is/was hardly worth any interest. Sure, it's secret but that's only because there's a lot of classified research going on. Big deal, that type of stuff goes around all the country. Most of it is uninteresting, tax wasting dollars. You can actually go to the border of Area51 and take photos, etc. Just don't cross the lines, else highly trained Wackenhut security guards may apprehend you then turn you over to the county sheriff for tresspassing.

The real interest is Papoose lake, located adjacent to the other side of a mountain range separating Area51. Here it is where Bob Lazar states an underground facility holds UFO's, and even the highly screened Area51 employees could not access Papoose. That is the real mystery. There's no way to get even near Papoose lake, except through Area51. Though there was a news incident some time ago about some hiker who actually made it onto Papoose, then was apprehended. Not sure what happened after that.

Most of these wild rumors come from that same guy, Lazar. He's a looney idiot. He has no kind of clout or respect except in tinfoil hat wearing government conspiracy circles.
 

Feldenak

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: vegetation
Just FYI,

Area51 itself is/was hardly worth any interest. Sure, it's secret but that's only because there's a lot of classified research going on. Big deal, that type of stuff goes around all the country. Most of it is uninteresting, tax wasting dollars. You can actually go to the border of Area51 and take photos, etc. Just don't cross the lines, else highly trained Wackenhut security guards may apprehend you then turn you over to the county sheriff for tresspassing.

The real interest is Papoose lake, located adjacent to the other side of a mountain range separating Area51. Here it is where Bob Lazar states an underground facility holds UFO's, and even the highly screened Area51 employees could not access Papoose. That is the real mystery. There's no way to get even near Papoose lake, except through Area51. Though there was a news incident some time ago about some hiker who actually made it onto Papoose, then was apprehended. Not sure what happened after that.

Most of these wild rumors come from that same guy, Lazar. He's a looney idiot. He has no kind of clout or respect except in tinfoil hat wearing government conspiracy circles.

So he's dmcowen674's hero?
 

OS

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Originally posted by: 91TTZ
Originally posted by: vegetation
Just FYI,

Area51 itself is/was hardly worth any interest. Sure, it's secret but that's only because there's a lot of classified research going on. Big deal, that type of stuff goes around all the country. Most of it is uninteresting, tax wasting dollars. You can actually go to the border of Area51 and take photos, etc. Just don't cross the lines, else highly trained Wackenhut security guards may apprehend you then turn you over to the county sheriff for tresspassing.

The real interest is Papoose lake, located adjacent to the other side of a mountain range separating Area51. Here it is where Bob Lazar states an underground facility holds UFO's, and even the highly screened Area51 employees could not access Papoose. That is the real mystery. There's no way to get even near Papoose lake, except through Area51. Though there was a news incident some time ago about some hiker who actually made it onto Papoose, then was apprehended. Not sure what happened after that.

Most of these wild rumors come from that same guy, Lazar. He's a looney idiot. He has no kind of clout or respect except in tinfoil hat wearing government conspiracy circles.

yeah that guy, if you read about his history, he's a crackpot. He claims that he got hired into a supersecret program in something like 2 weeks with no prior experience in defense. Sorry, but 2 weeks barely even clears a background check for an unclassified military program.

Also, apparently he was bankrupt before he started his claimed work on this program. Sorry, but the aerospace industry doesn't really hire people with questionable financial backgrounds, too much chance that the person can be bought out by other groups.