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Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
This would be an extremely weak atheistic position.

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I am clearly an atheist.

I do not believe in the existence of any gods.
However, I also meet this definition "1) One who believes that it is impossible to prove whether there is a God."
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No, just a relatively logical one.
Just because you believe something doesn't exist doesn't mean you can prove it doesn't exist.

Do you think a really strongly believing Christian who doesn't believe you can prove God exists is a weakly believing Christian? Belief in God is based on faith, you cannot show God, you cannot prove if he is there, but you can still have a strong belief in him.
Same as you can have a strong belief that God does not exist, but you are not able to prove God does not exist, unless you know something....?
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A true Atheist denies the existence of a god. An Agnostic beleives that it is impossible to know if one exists or not. This is the belief that Lonyo expressed.
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a·the·ist Audio pronunciation of "atheist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-st)
n.

One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
Correct.

BUT: I am an atheist.
I think it's not possible to prove that something that does not exist does not exist, in the sense that God, if he existed, would exist.
I do not believe it is impossible to know if he exists or not, but I believe it is impossible to PROVE he does not exist. Same as you cannot PROVE there is a God, if belief (in Christian terms) is based on faith.

It is not possible to prove there IS a God because of the way belief works, and it is (currently at least) not possible to disprove god, especially if you are trying to disprove something that there is no evidence for, because there is also no evidence against, since it is not something based in our world.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Originally posted by: swimscubasteve
This would be an extremely weak atheistic position.

Originally posted by: BurnItDwn
I am clearly an atheist.

I do not believe in the existence of any gods.
However, I also meet this definition "1) One who believes that it is impossible to prove whether there is a God."
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No, just a relatively logical one.
Just because you believe something doesn't exist doesn't mean you can prove it doesn't exist.

Do you think a really strongly believing Christian who doesn't believe you can prove God exists is a weakly believing Christian? Belief in God is based on faith, you cannot show God, you cannot prove if he is there, but you can still have a strong belief in him.
Same as you can have a strong belief that God does not exist, but you are not able to prove God does not exist, unless you know something....?
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A true Atheist denies the existence of a god. An Agnostic beleives that it is impossible to know if one exists or not. This is the belief that Lonyo expressed.
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a·the·ist Audio pronunciation of "atheist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-st)
n.

One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
Correct.

BUT: I am an atheist.
I think it's not possible to prove that something that does not exist does not exist, in the sense that God, if he existed, would exist.
I do not believe it is impossible to know if he exists or not, but I believe it is impossible to PROVE he does not exist. Same as you cannot PROVE there is a God, if belief (in Christian terms) is based on faith.

It is not possible to prove there IS a God because of the way belief works, and it is (currently at least) not possible to disprove god, especially if you are trying to disprove something that there is no evidence for, because there is also no evidence against, since it is not something based in our world.
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this is actually a very interesting concept...

 
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Your poll is flawed. The last option shouldn't have the bit about believing proof exists.
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will someone please explain this. nakedfrog what do you mean? Or fobot? i don't understand what is flawed.
 
I believe in a higher power and don't require proof, but I required proof before He became evident to me.
How's about that option?
 
Originally posted by: jndietz
Originally posted by: FoBoT
Originally posted by: nakedfrog
Your poll is flawed. The last option shouldn't have the bit about believing proof exists.
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will someone please explain this. nakedfrog what do you mean? Or fobot? i don't understand what is flawed.
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They can believe without believing there is proof.
Religion is faith based, and faith does not require proof.
Faith:
Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence. See Synonyms at belief. See Synonyms at trust.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo



a·the·ist Audio pronunciation of "atheist" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (th-st)
n.

One who disbelieves or denies the existence of God or gods.
Correct.

BUT: I am an atheist.
I think it's not possible to prove that something that does not exist does not exist, in the sense that God, if he existed, would exist.
I do not believe it is impossible to know if he exists or not, but I believe it is impossible to PROVE he does not exist. Same as you cannot PROVE there is a God, if belief (in Christian terms) is based on faith.

It is not possible to prove there IS a God because of the way belief works, and it is (currently at least) not possible to disprove god, especially if you are trying to disprove something that there is no evidence for, because there is also no evidence against, since it is not something based in our world.
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That may be the most logical and open-minded statement on this issue I have ever seen posted on this forum. It is respectful to both sides of the issue and clearly states the posters position without demeaning opposing positions.

You should be ashamed of yourself! Ban!😛

BTW, I am a Christian. But I couldn't vote due to flawed pollage.
 
I'm a theist.

I believe in a God; but don't know of any proof and am not associated with any religion.

Views are on my blog 🙂
 
I am atheist, however if someone gives some credible evidence to show me god does exsist then I'll change my mind. 🙂
 
God exists... i just don't see how people believe we just spontaneously generated. or the whole, "There was nothing, then it exploded" theory. A higher power had to do this. No way we could be just chances.
 
I can't vote in your poll.

I believe in a higher power but I do not believe any proof exists that can be defined as proof by the Scientific Method.
 
I consider myself an agnodeistheran.

Haha. I think there is some sort of higher power, don't know exactly what it is, but I choose to believe in the lutheran religion because it's easy.
 
Atheist is pretty ignorant and would deem you close-minded. If you can't disprove it, how can you take a side that opposes it?

Agnostic now and probably forever.
 
Originally posted by: LoKe
Atheist is pretty ignorant and would deem you close-minded. If you can't disprove it, how can you take a side that opposes it?

Agnostic now and probably forever.
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By that logic, religion is ignorant and close-minded too.
 
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