Are you waiting for Kaby Lake?

[sirmo]

Are you going to upgrade to Zen even if it turns out to not be an upgrade?

I need more cores/threads. As long as it matches Haswell it will be an upgrade.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I need more cores/threads. As long as it matches Haswell it will be an upgrade.

I see. What's stopping you from getting a Broadwell-E now?

 

[sirmo]

I see. What's stopping you from getting a Broadwell-E now?

Intel is boring, everyone runs Intel.. AMD is hip.

 

[Chaotic42]

I was going to, but it sounds like my 4790k is going to be a beast for a while.

 

[crashtech]

Intel is boring, everyone runs Intel.. AMD is hip.

An arthritic hip, maybe.

 

[LTC8K6]

I see. What's stopping you from getting a Broadwell-E now?

He's waiting for a Broadwell E chip with an AMD label for half the price...

 

[Arachnotronic]

Intel is boring, everyone runs Intel.. AMD is hip.

Okay.

 

[dc9mm3]

I am curious. Is anybody here passing on the current Skylake chips and waiting for the Kaby Lake (mainstream) chips?

If so, why? If not, why not?

When is the i7-7700K 4.2 gig coming out. I need to rebuild my ancient Q6600 quad. Its way over due.

 

[Arachnotronic]

When is the i7-7700K 4.2 gig coming out. I need to rebuild my ancient Q6600 quad. Its way over due.

January

 

[Rifter]

Im waiting for either Zen, or intel taking 6 cores mainstream whatever generation that is, not sure id KL or CL or whatever they will call it.

 

[Justinbaileyman]

When is the i7-7700K 4.2 gig coming out. I need to rebuild my ancient Q6600 quad. Its way over due.

Its coming in January but for the time being why not spend a mere $40 bucks and upgrade to a q9650 from your q6600. the q9650 would completely destroy your q6600. Really the upgrade would be night and day for you till the 7700k Hits.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Its coming in January but for the time being why not spend a mere $40 bucks and upgrade to a q9650 from your q6600. the q9650 would completely destroy your q6600. Really the upgrade would be night and day for you till the 7700k Hits.

He could also just buy a 6700k and be done with it. 7700k just ain't gonna be a big enough deal to wait for if you need an upgrade

 

[Justinbaileyman]

Yeah but the 7700k will have 4 more PCIe lanes vs the 6700K and Z270 boards will support Intel Optane where as z170 does not. To me that alone is worth waiting for Kabylake!!

 

[Dave2150]

Its coming in January but for the time being why not spend a mere $40 bucks and upgrade to a q9650 from your q6600. the q9650 would completely destroy your q6600. Really the upgrade would be night and day for you till the 7700k Hits.

Pointless spending money on extremely old and crappy hardware, unless your some kind of CPU collector

 

[Arachnotronic]

Yeah but the 7700k will have 4 more PCIe lanes vs the 6700K and Z270 boards will support Intel Optane where as z170 does not. To me that alone is worth waiting for Kabylake!!

6700K and 7700K have the same # of PCIe lanes. I am confident that you will be able to use Optane SSDs with Kabylake systems, but maybe not the 32GB drive that acts as a cache.

 

[TheELF]

Yeah but the 7700k will have 4 more PCIe lanes vs the 6700K and Z270 boards will support Intel Optane where as z170 does not. To me that alone is worth waiting for Kabylake!!

Kaby will accept optane disks as actual ram (ram and permanent ramdrive in one and at once) that's where the real fun is gonna be.

 

[Rifter]

6700K and 7700K have the same # of PCIe lanes. I am confident that you will be able to use Optane SSDs with Kabylake systems, but maybe not the 32GB drive that acts as a cache.

The leaks i have seen agree with Justinbaileyman, KL will have 4 more PCIe lanes.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z270-and-h270-chipsets-specs-appear.html

 

[VirtualLarry]

Kaby will accept optane disks as actual ram (ram and permanent ramdrive in one and at once) that's where the real fun is gonna be.

Pretty sure, that at this point, Z270 / KBL will only be able to use NVMe Optane drives, probably for caching. The Optane DIMMs, are only for the Purley (server) platform.

 

[Arachnotronic]

The leaks i have seen agree with Justinbaileyman, KL will have 4 more PCIe lanes.

http://www.guru3d.com/news-story/intel-z270-and-h270-chipsets-specs-appear.html

The four additional lanes come from the chipset.

 

[Rifter]

The four additional lanes come from the chipset.

Right, meaning it has 4 more PCIe lanes total, which im pretty sure is what i and he said.

 

[Eug]

I have been waiting since Penryn for my laptop. Waiting for Kaby Lake Y or U for a laptop, for 4K 10-bit video streaming - hardware decode and DRM support.

The 10-15% speed boost over Skylake will also be a nice bonus too, esp. at these uber low low power laptop clock speeds.

As you can see, I don't update my laptops often, so when I do, I want to make it count.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Right, meaning it has 4 more PCIe lanes total, which im pretty sure is what i and he said.

You don't need Kabylake to get those four extra lanes. Just a Z270 board.

 

[IntelUser2000]

Pretty sure, that at this point, Z270 / KBL will only be able to use NVMe Optane drives, probably for caching. The Optane DIMMs, are only for the Purley (server) platform.

What he is saying has merits. Intel was using high performance SSDs in one of their demonstrations as sort of an extension for system memory. NVMe Optane would have much higher performance and make such setups more viable. They were also talking about fast storage as system memory extension to lower costs in value systems by limiting DRAM. It sounded like this is more than SSD caching setups they proposed few years ago. We may be talking about CPU instructions, BIOS, drivers, to be much more comprehensive so it can perform better.

That's probably the "requirement" for needing Kaby Lake platform. If you want to use it as a normal NVMe drive, previous generation platforms would work fine.

 

[Arachnotronic]

I have been waiting since Penryn for my laptop. Waiting for Kaby Lake Y or U for a laptop, for 4K 10-bit video streaming - hardware decode and DRM support.

The 10-15% speed boost over Skylake will also be a nice bonus too, esp. at these uber low low power laptop clock speeds.

As you can see, I don't update my laptops often, so when I do, I want to make it count.

I am saddened that Apple hasn't yet updated the MacBook (12") to include Kaby Lake.

 

[imported_bman]

Waiting for Skylake-X for my next desktop and maybe Cannonlake for a laptop. I am thinking that a highend Skylake-X build will have a good shot at lasting close to a decade baring any fundamental changes to CPU design (with GPU upgrades and adding more storage as prices fall). The only feature I can see the Skylake-X platform lacking in the future is PCIe 4.0, though I doubt if I will need that much bandwidth. As for a laptop I will wait until Intel enables Freesync, supports LPDDR4 for Core-M, and has hardware decoding for AV1 (assuming it takes off).