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normalicy

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Yeah, unfortunately, many black people are pretty much brought up to be rude, have no respect for others, & have no morals (either from poor parenting, a bad situation to start with, peer pressure to fit into their race, or the saddest of all the music). The same goes for hispanics & white people as well.

I really don't hate any race. I just hate what some have come to represent. I have some really good black friends that I believe try to live above the mold (I live in St. Louis, so you pretty much either get along with black people or spend your life avoiding them). In the same regard, I know some white people that I'm emberassed to have represent my race (and I'm sure blacks feel the same way about some of their peers). So, I don't believe that I hate any race. I just really hate some character classes.

Oddly, the orientals (for those not familiar, that would be those that live in the Asian continent) don't let those things drag themselves down & they try to excel in everything & usually end up making a better life for themselves like people in America were intended to.
 

Capt Caveman

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Originally posted by: normalicy
Yeah, unfortunately, many black people are pretty much brought up to be rude, have no respect for others, & have no morals (either from poor parenting, a bad situation to start with, peer pressure to fit into their race, or the saddest of all the music). The same goes for hispanics & white people as well.

I really don't hate any race. I just hate what some have come to represent. I have some really good black friends that I believe try to live above the mold (I live in St. Louis, so you pretty much either get along with black people or spend your life avoiding them). In the same regard, I know some white people that I'm emberassed to have represent my race (and I'm sure blacks feel the same way about some of their peers). So, I don't believe that I hate any race. I just really hate some character classes.

Oddly, the orientals don't let those things drag themselves down & they try to excel in everything & usually end up making a better life for themselves like people in America were intended to.

Doesn't everyone want to live about the mold? I mean it's green and stinky.

Orientals?
 

normalicy

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live about the mold
above the mold... ABOVE. And mold as in a preset form for shaping things. I hope you're kidding (you know, they won't accept their lot in live as hating white people & chose to make something of their lives despite not being in the best of circumstances).

Yeah, Orientals.... You know, Chinese, Japanese, Korean, Vietnamese, Taiwanese, etc. Even the Indonesians.

Maybe I should have said Easterners?

They just have a pride about improving themselves (no matter their status) that Westerners don't have. And no, I'm not oriental. Just something I've observed.
 

child of wonder

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I'm a little biased against Hispanics because when I was 8 and at a babysitter's apartment playing in the communcal play area, some kids didn't like me and wanted trouble so they told their mom's boyfriend that I had threatened to beat them up. The bf was Hispanic and thought it would be a good idea to come outside, walk right up to me, look me in the eye, and say "if you don't leave those kids alone I'll cut your head off, put you in a bag, and dump you in the river."
 

frostedflakes

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Originally posted by: normalicy
Yeah, unfortunately, many black people are pretty much brought up to be rude, have no respect for others, & have no morals (either from poor parenting, a bad situation to start with, peer pressure to fit into their race, or the saddest of all the music). The same goes for hispanics & white people as well.

I really don't hate any race. I just hate what some have come to represent. I have some really good black friends that I believe try to live above the mold (I live in St. Louis, so you pretty much either get along with black people or spend your life avoiding them). In the same regard, I know some white people that I'm emberassed to have represent my race (and I'm sure blacks feel the same way about some of their peers). So, I don't believe that I hate any race. I just really hate some character classes.

Oddly, the orientals don't let those things drag themselves down & they try to excel in everything & usually end up making a better life for themselves like people in America were intended to.
This is something I've always found fascinating as well. It's not like Asian minorities in the United States haven't had their share of hardships (Japanese-American internment during WWII comes to mind immediately), yet most seem to do very well. However, generations after the fact, many African Americans still complain about the man keeping them down and blame everybody except themselves and their culture. Not trying to downplay slavery, it was a horrible time in our history, but I think it's time to let go of the past and stop making excuses.

Of course, such rational thinking is likely to get someone labeled as a racist in our overly PC society.
 

irishScott

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No. Grew up in a predominantly white neighborhood, but there were considerable populations of practically every other race. I have Hispanic, Black, Asian, Indian, and Pacific Islander (literally) friends.

I judge people by their personality/who they are. Some negative traits are common among certain races. That's a verifiable fact. Doesn't make me racist for saying it.
 

Kabob

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Anyone who says no is only kidding themselves.

One of my best friends is black but I'm still a little bit racist...

Things like (IMHO) "X people group are bad drivers" is what gets me...sorry, but I've been cut off 20 too many times...
 

sutahz

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I'm not reading through seven pages (or more) of posts.
It doesn't have to be negative to be racism. If you assume a larger black man is a good athlete, a nerdy looking asian is smart/good at math/computers or that a jew is good with money, that's being a racist.
Also a racist thought doesn't have to invoke burning hatred or anthing. You may simply do something a little different w/ someone of a different race around.
Anyone who says they are immune to all this... I'll say BS as well.
 

irishScott

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Originally posted by: sutahz
I'm not reading through seven pages (or more) of posts.
It doesn't have to be negative to be racism. If you assume a larger black man is a good athlete, a nerdy looking asian is smart/good at math/computers or that a jew is good with money, that's being a racist.
Also a racist thought doesn't have to invoke burning hatred or anthing. You may simply do something a little different w/ someone of a different race around.
Anyone who says they are immune to all this... I'll say BS as well.

Then we have different definitions of racism.

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Edit:
http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=racism&x=0&y=0

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others.
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: legoman666
Unfortunately, I'd have to say that I am. It comes from growing up in a all white neighborhood, going to a school with 2 black students out of 450, going to a high school where the only black students attending were on sports scholarship or some other form of financial aid, and I am now living in the middle of low income housing right off of campus.

Last week I was called a "punk ass white bitch" because some idiot black guy did a U-turn in the middle of the road and almost hit me when I was riding my bike.

It also doesn't help that the majority (read: 95%) of crimes committed on and near campus are by black people.

...so you're saying that you aren't a "punk ass white bitch?" :confused:
 

zinfamous

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Originally posted by: Don Vito Corleone
I probably am in a limited sense.

I definitely have no hatred or prejudice toward people of color (as cliched as it sounds, some of my closest friends are black and Asian), but I definitely have a certain level of skepticism toward young black men I don't personally know. This is essentially pragmatism in my view, in that young black men commit a hugely disproportionate number of violent crimes, but I can't seriously deny that I am using their race as a shorthand way of judging them, and that's racist IMO.

this is how I would summarize it.

When I was really young (up until 2nd grade), I was the minority in my school. maybe 2 white kids per class. Neighborhood was quickly changing color, too. This town was also extremely racist on each side. it also didn't help that the older brother of my best friend was a neo-nazi. he painted swastikas everywhere, named their cat Hitler, etc. I was probably more racist then than I am now (I did have a few black friends at that age, but rarely hung out. most of my friends were pretty damn racist, but that was b/c they had much older brothers than i did--and all of them rednecks)

 

seemingly random

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Originally posted by: spittledip
I am prejudiced, not sure if i am racist though. Are southerners considered to be a race? :p
If not a separate race, at the very least an enigma. Remember, the south was primarily populated by criminals and undesirables from england and europe in the 16-1700s.

These comments make me prejudiced - not racist. And it looks like prejudice is not entirely accurate.

prejudice - from merriam-webster:

1 : to injure or damage by some judgment or action usually at law; broadly : to cause injury to : HURT, DAMAGE, IMPAIR {prejudice a good cause}
2 : to cause to have prejudice : prepossess with opinions formed without due knowledge or examination : bias the mind of : give an unreasonable bent to {prejudice a critic} -- not often used of favorable prejudice {if anything could prejudice me in her favor}
3 obsolete : to judge beforehand usually unfavorably : PREJUDGE
 

Acanthus

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Like others have said in the thread. Im not racist, but there are personality traits that i dont like, and they seem to be more popular among some of the minority races.

Im white, i have 2 good friends that are black, 2 asian friends, 3 hispanic, and probably 10 or so white.

I grew up in a school where white was the minority race (50% hispanic, 20% african-american, 20% white, 10% "other")
 

dawp

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no, i like all women. makes me no difference what race she is, I'd hit it.
 

wwswimming

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living in California, there's plenty of opportunities to parse this.

for example, you're watching pro football, and you notice that the entire defense
of one team is African American. and you say, "look at that. all 11 guys are
African American !"

i don't think observations like that are racist.

i think racist is when you kick a group of people when they're down, and you kick
them because of their skin color.
 

GRIFFIN1

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I had this girlfriend in college that thought she knew everything and she had extremely liberal views on everything. I went to a school that was about 45% black, and I had some racist views against blacks. The girlfriend on the other hand grew up in Houston (Woodlands) and she had very little interaction with black people. She acted totally disgusted with me if I made any racist remarks towards black people.

One day, the subject of Mexicans came up. She went off on this long racist rant about how much she hated Mexicans. I had very little contact with Mexicans growing up, so I had to bad feelings towards them.
 

Megatomic

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: OUCaptain
I've grown up all over the country with all types of people. It's generally the personal traits I hate in people. Sometimes, particular negative traits are more prevalent in certain racial groups. If noticing these traits and commenting on them makes me a racist, then so be it. See sig for further clarification.

ill just quote what you said
Me too. I actually dislike living in a mostly white community.