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Are you anti-tobacco?

xaero999

xaero999

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I hope everybody understands smoking tobacco harms much more than smoking pot. So, if we’re heading to total legalization of marijuana then why not to get rid of tobacco? Anti-tobacco agenda just raises minimum age of tobacco purchasers but it can’t beat the tobacco propaganda.
 
tobacco kills people
alcohol kills people
marijuana is illegal

Go to a concert and bump into an ass hole. Is he drunk or high on marijuana? Which one is legal?

The USA and many other countries have there rationality in the shit hole.
 
surfsatwerk said:
Smoke now.
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SMOKE

On topic, I like to smoke cigars and pipes. I quit cigarettes a few years ago, but sometimes miss them if only because it's a quick thing and can be a social device. You can't share your vaping stick as easily as handing over a cig from your pack.
 
We're only on this earth so many years. You can do what you want with your own lungs...just don't force me to breathe your 2nd hand smoke or nasty vanilla scented vape.

I generally look down on people that smoke.....particularly those who do it around building entrances, etc... If you want to smoke in a casino or bar and they allow it....there are enough non-smoking bars out there that will take my money.

I don't care for ecigarettes because they look stupid and totally defeat the purpose of smoking.
 
As a former smoker, I am now super anti-smoking. The smell is nauseating.
I smoked for 15 years, & have been smoke free for 15 years.
What I don't understand: With all the info we now have & the strong anti-smoking campaign with "Truth", how do people start smoking nowadays!>?
 
Wouldn't shed a single tear if I woke up tomorrow and it was a national ban. Can't sell them. Can't buy them. Can't smoke them. Done.

I've watched several grandparents suffer strokes and emphysema and wither away and die in the 50's and 60's. I remember having to repaint their walls and ceilings every couple years because of the yellow tinge that smoking dyed it. My mom smoked and it was the same thing in our house. Cars stunk. Clothes stunk. When I got older I hated going to bars and coming back smelling like I bathed in an ashtray and having to leave my clothes outside to air out. When I bought computer parts from this site and they would come yellow tinged and just oozing of cigarette stank. Watching people huddle into little pods in the middle of the winter out on the edge of work property to get in a puff a couple times a day.

Yeah. Miserable, disgusting habit.

I now live in Kentucky which is one of (if not the) highest smoking rates in the country and it's amazing seeing how many people are still smoking (and starting). I see so many people walking around the medical campus with an IV pole in one hand and a cigarette in the other. Or dashing out a smoke and then walking into the cancer clinic.

Bleh.
 
Scarpozzi said:
We're only on this earth so many years. You can do what you want with your own lungs...just don't force me to breathe your 2nd hand smoke or nasty vanilla scented vape.

I generally look down on people that smoke.....particularly those who do it around building entrances, etc... If you want to smoke in a casino or bar and they allow it....there are enough non-smoking bars out there that will take my money.
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There are? Maybe the casinos around here, I don't know since I don't go to the casino, but definitely none of the bars.
Scarpozzi said:
I don't care for ecigarettes because they look stupid and totally defeat the purpose of smoking.
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They... what? This doesn't even make sense.
I am far more offended by the scent of various colognes and perfumes that people seem to think should be applied in vast quantities than I am by any vapor that I've ever smelled. Sometimes I'll be eating lunch somewhere, some lady sits down two tables over, and then all I can taste is the perfume she evidently just finished swimming in a vat of.
 
I don't smoke but I'm not against it. I believe everyone should have a right to do whatever they want to their bodies so long as they are mindful and responsible to not harm those around them.
 
My grandfather died from smoking related emphysema.
My father died from smoking related lung cancer, spreading to his brain (they killed the tumor in his lung, but not before it hit the lymphatic system).

So, personally, I'm against it. Smoked for 23-1/2 years myself, and quit back in November of 2004. So even though my lungs are a lot cleaner than they otherwise would've been, I still stand a better than average chance of seeing cancer or COPD from my years of smoking.

At the same token, if you're an asshole, I wholeheartedly support your decision to smoke, in hopes that you will die, before collecting much Social Security. Great way to extend the solvency of that program! :biggrin:
 
HeXen said:
I don't smoke but I'm not against it. I believe everyone should have a right to do whatever they want to their bodies so long as they are mindful and responsible to not harm those around them.
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Smokers poison their bodies your body with smoke and also ecology with their cig butts. So your dreams about "do whatever you want but don't harm those who're around" won't fly. My point is we'd better start to get rid of tobacco obsession gradually.
 
Smoked for 13 years and quit this last February for the kids. Still going strong. I do sometimes miss it because it was awesome for stress, anxiety, social stuff. I mean, it's a shame that it causes so many health problems because it sure is nice to smoke.

Was a huge pain to quit though, worst week of my life. That reason alone makes me fearful to go back, I worry about deploying again because 90% of people that deploy either already smoke or pick it up, and I know it'd be a constant temptation.
 
vi edit said:
Wouldn't shed a single tear if I woke up tomorrow and it was a national ban. Can't sell them. Can't buy them. Can't smoke them. Done.

I've watched several grandparents suffer strokes and emphysema and wither away and die in the 50's and 60's. I remember having to repaint their walls and ceilings every couple years because of the yellow tinge that smoking dyed it. My mom smoked and it was the same thing in our house. Cars stunk. Clothes stunk. When I got older I hated going to bars and coming back smelling like I bathed in an ashtray and having to leave my clothes outside to air out. When I bought computer parts from this site and they would come yellow tinged and just oozing of cigarette stank. Watching people huddle into little pods in the middle of the winter out on the edge of work property to get in a puff a couple times a day.

Yeah. Miserable, disgusting habit.

I now live in Kentucky which is one of (if not the) highest smoking rates in the country and it's amazing seeing how many people are still smoking (and starting). I see so many people walking around the medical campus with an IV pole in one hand and a cigarette in the other. Or dashing out a smoke and then walking into the cancer clinic.

Bleh.
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Natural selection? We need to filter out the weak ones.
 
That's just silly. Marijuana isn't a replacement or alternative for tobacco. Most people I know who smoke, smoke both. Banning cigarettes would mean the lost of many jobs and a ton of tax revenue. It's never going to happen.

Also, since you mentioned it, it a shame the go to argument that everyone seems to have for MJ is that "it's safer than cigarettes." Cigarettes: A product that every year causes a number of deaths comparable to the entire 4 years of the Holocaust. "It's safer than cigarettes" can be said about anything. A Jewish person living under Hitler's bed in 1941 was safer than cigarettes.

Full disclosure, I smoke neither. Tried both (and alcohol) when I was a teen and didn't like either.
 
Nashemon said:
That's just silly. Marijuana isn't a replacement or alternative for tobacco. Most people I know who smoke, smoke both. Banning cigarettes would mean the lost of many jobs and a ton of tax revenue. It's never going to happen.

Also, since you mentioned it, it a shame the go to argument that everyone seems to have for MJ is that "it's safer than cigarettes." Cigarettes: A product that every year causes a number of deaths comparable to the entire 4 years of the Holocaust. "It's safer than cigarettes" can be said about anything. A Jewish person living under Hitler's bed in 1941 was safer than cigarettes.

Full disclosure, I smoke neither. Tried both (and alcohol) when I was a teen and didn't like either.
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If I were jewish, I'd roll the dice on smoking versus camping under hitlers bed. =)
 
Nashemon said:
Also, since you mentioned it, it a shame the go to argument that everyone seems to have for MJ is that "it's safer than cigarettes." Cigarettes: A product that every year causes a number of deaths comparable to the entire 4 years of the Holocaust. "It's safer than cigarettes" can be said about anything. A Jewish person living under Hitler's bed in 1941 was safer than cigarettes.

Full disclosure, I smoke neither. Tried both (and alcohol) when I was a teen and didn't like either.
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What? No, I don't think so. "Safer than alcohol" is a fairly common go to argument. Your version makes little sense.
 
nakedfrog said:
What? No, I don't think so. "Safer than alcohol" is a fairly common go to argument. Your version makes little sense.
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No one smokes alcohol, silly. *searches Google* Ok, some idiots do apparently.

But seriously:

A. The OP compared them.
B. The comparison is usually to alcohol AND tobacco.
C. Searching Google finds hundreds of thousands of results comparing marijuana to each.

You can probably wrap B and C into a single point, as I don't frequently argue with potheads, so I'm not keen on what the actual go to arguments of "freethinkers" are. I'm only familiar with what I've read in reports online, and the majority of the reports list "safer than alcohol or tobacco" as one of their bullet points.

But I agree with you, "safer than alcohol" is a much better argument that I can take seriously.
 
I don't smoke, but I'm not up for a ban. As long as it's not done around me I don't care. Stupid is as stupid does. There should be designated smoking areas in all public places, even outside.

At least I can say no smoking at my house, period.
 
if you want to smoke/chew... then go right ahead. I hate the littering related to smoking along with 2nd hand smoke of disrespectful smokers.

I also have issue with the govt saying nicotine/tobacco/alcohol is OK, but X, Y, and Z drugs are not. it's all about the $ and nothing more.
 
I'm not against anyone smoking so long as their being mindful of what/who's around them. I think it's disgusting that there's smoking sections in places like Disneyland that isn't confined. You can still smell it and get 2nd hand from it being so close to walkways etc. With that being said, I do need to quit chewing. Been chewing for almost 20 years and I've been thinking of quitting recently.
 
inhaling products of combustion in the form of "smokeables" is bad no matter what the vegetative matter is. Benzo(a)pyrene is Benzo(a)pyrene regardless of the combustion source.
 
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