Are we there yet? Anybody still in doubt that a Trump Presidency is a national disaster?

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You really should see about addressing those anger issues. Very unhealthy.
If you're concerned about people with anger issues you should address those devastated by the Trump presidency.

Me? I'm not angry at all. I merely disappointed that so many on the left have chosen to become online douchebags. You toe that line. Do us a favor and try not to step over it.
 

ivwshane

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Don't ask yourself why Trump was so appealing, ask yourself why Hillary wasn't. In that domain you might find some answers.

Yeah, except Hillary was appealing, she appealed to approximately 2+ million more voters. So I'll repeat my question; why did previous Obama voters find trump more appealing than Hillary and why did they support him despite the fact that their view of him was based on lies?
 
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If you're concerned about people with anger issues you should address those devastated by the Trump presidency.

Me? I'm not angry at all. I merely disappointed that so many on the left have chosen to become online douchebags. You toe that line. Do us a favor and try not to step over it.

Hey, your life. If you want to spend part of it spewing meaningless venom have at it.
 

trenchfoot

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Hey, your life. If you want to spend part of it spewing meaningless venom have at it.

It all started when Bush and Cheney was constantly screwing things up and their most ardent supporters got into a nasty habit of attempting to defend the indefensible. That reflex got hard wired into the conservative psyche when Bush's excellent adventure in Iraq ran off the rails and created a huge frick'in mess the likes of which we are still experiencing and paying for in blood and treasure. That reflex then got a really good exhausting workout when the world shaking financial train wreck happened as The Bush/Cheney Corp. of America NLW (No Liability Whatsoever) left town with their collective tails between their legs as a result of maximizing the impact that trickle down economics had to offer them.

And then Obama happened. Guess what that notorious conservative reflex did then? Yep, got unhinged, went over the top and outdid itself in the way it got so much more creative toward attempting to defend the indefensible in regards to shutting down the government to get its way and how it was defending the losses of McCain and Romney, all while acquiring the lowest legislative performance scores ever due to their sworn duty to block every single thing Obama tried to do in his efforts to improve the lives of the middle class and the poor.

Flash forward to Trump and the enormously target rich environment he is providing his detractors with. Now that reflex is really going to get a challenge the likes of which it has never been faced with before.

That should provide some amazing contortions of the facts and truth in defending the actions and words of a guy who is so used to getting his way by doing things in the like-minded GOP fashion of having things all their way or nobody gets anything at all. ;)
 
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pcgeek11

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Yeah, except Hillary was appealing, she appealed to approximately 2+ million more voters. So I'll repeat my question; why did previous Obama voters find trump more appealing than Hillary and why did they support him despite the fact that their view of him was based on lies?

Unfortunately they were the wrong 2+ Million Voters.
 

blankslate

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Can the OP admit that the Clinton candidacy was the gross misunderstanding of the anti-establishment atmosphere surrounding this past election cycle by DNC and its leadership which allowed Trump to eek out within-the-margin of error victories in critical states?
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Nope they won't
People will deflect blame to every other reason than the fact that Clinton was the wrong type of candidate to run in this past election cycle.... tis a pity Senator Warren didn't run.


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compuwiz1

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Everything is going to be fine. Don't worry....be happy!
The man is working his ass off and he hasn't even taken office yet.
I like that in a president.
 

sandorski

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Oct 10, 1999
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Trump is rage Tweeting about SNL again. He should probably stop watching it if it enrages him so much.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Oh I don't know if this will be so bad. Investing in lawn chair companies, violin makers, torch makers and popcorn futures.

Yep, this could be rewarding indeed.
 

Hayabusa Rider

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Jhhnn

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That is how the system has always been, nothing has changed.

Prior to 2000, the system yielded anomalous results only twice, both over 100 years ago. It has now yielded such results twice in 16 years, reflective of changing demographics.

It would be foolish to accept that as the new normal going forward regardless of who wins.

It's also foolish to use that as a justification for what really is a radical agenda that does not reflect the will of a plurality of voters.
 

kage69

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That is how the system has always been, nothing has changed.


I realize you guys need to tell yourself that to protect your fragile egos, but you can't honestly expect others to believe that. The constant refrain of 'Trump winning due to half of America getting their way' is a huge red flag to anyone with any respect for you know, math.

When someone who claims to speak for the silent majority loses the popular vote by such a healthy margin, I get that it will cause some embarrassment and likely result in all manner of rationalization. What I don't get is how you expect others to look back on the road that got us here and think, 'Nope, same shit different day.'

If people look and sound worried, it's because what they suspected of the right in the Bush years has been proven correct this past November. Facts don't matter. Emotion beats reason.

I'm not a huge Trevor Noah fan, but he nails it in this run down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9P1IVQJdVvE That is exactly what I'm talking about. Even the most loyal of bushbots had their breaking point back in the day, or they'd at least run away in the presence of overwhelming factual disassembly. The Termination analogy there was great haha. Trump voters are impervious to reason and facts it seems. It's never been like this before, so by definition there has been quite a change. Prove us wrong and start caring about facts again. Please?
 
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BonzaiDuck

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Unless all the Trumpers are two-percenters who want to screw everybody else, I cannot understand what they see in the man.

If he's supposed to be a "leader," I'm resolutely about-face. If I "followed" him to Hell, I'd flip at the last minute and close the door behind him. There is absolutely nothing of a human dimension that should appeal to any feeling, thinking human being -- unless they're either delusional, sociopathic or ignorant.

He is undoubtedly the most disgusting excuse of a human being I've ever encountered in real life. And he's more disgusting and repulsive than anything I'd encountered elsewhere as an exaggeration.

This is the end of America as we know it or ever knew it. Just for putting a disgusting asshole in the white house. A vindictive, worse-than-mean-spirited asshole, a foul example to the young. Why did the Reds hate the rest of us this much? If you could read their minds, was it because they "think" we insulted them by putting a N____ in the White House? Show me the way to purge ourselves of them, then !

Should I Tweet this on Donnie's account to see how quickly I'm blocked? OR should I imagine black helicopters over my house and a swat team on the doorstep?
 

KMFJD

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Unless all the Trumpers are two-percenters who want to screw everybody else, I cannot understand what they see in the man.

If he's supposed to be a "leader," I'm resolutely about-face. If I "followed" him to Hell, I'd flip at the last minute and close the door behind him. There is absolutely nothing of a human dimension that should appeal to any feeling, thinking human being -- unless they're either delusional, sociopathic or ignorant.

He is undoubtedly the most disgusting excuse of a human being I've ever encountered in real life. And he's more disgusting and repulsive than anything I'd encountered elsewhere as an exaggeration.

This is the end of America as we know it or ever knew it. Just for putting a disgusting asshole in the white house. A vindictive, worse-than-mean-spirited asshole, a foul example to the young. Why did the Reds hate the rest of us this much? If you could read their minds, was it because they "think" we insulted them by putting a N____ in the White House? Show me the way to purge ourselves of them, then !

Should I Tweet this on Donnie's account to see how quickly I'm blocked? OR should I imagine black helicopters over my house and a swat team on the doorstep?

Germany recovered from electing an psycopathic asshole, so will the USA
 

Balt

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Germany recovered from electing an psycopathic asshole, so will the USA

Dunno. Do you really think the rest of the world is going to chip in for a Marshall Plan to help the United States? Maybe we'll be able to mark down some of our debt after a lot of negotiations that basically give up our sovereignty. "Make America Great Again" indeed.
 

Moonbeam

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All it took was a world war.
And 50 million dead. And oddly today in Germany, you don't have the right to be a Nazi. Some how or another. wink wink, the German people figured out that the Nazi expression of the conservative brain defect shouldn't have room to flower. As the difference in meaning between Nazi and Republican tend to blur, perhaps something like that will happen here. I don't see how the freedom to destroy yourself AND take everybody else with you should be considered a right.