Question are video card prices headed down yet?

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Leeea

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In order to move the excess GDDR6x inventory, they'll put it on 3060Tis.
Oh!

Your right, nvidia is the only one using the gddr6x. Everyone else went with the normal gddr6.

Nvidia is likely on the hook for the entirety of the gddr6x run.
 

SteveGrabowski

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- I figure that means the GDDR6x is too slow to be used forward on the 40xx series of cards, not that its slower than the existing GDDR6 on 3060Ti cards.

In order to move the excess GDDR6x inventory, they'll put it on 3060Tis.

Oh ok. Wouldn't mind a 3060 Ti with GDDR6X if it gets cheap.
 

moonbogg

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New mining darling? (Cheapest GDDR6x card on market?)

Mining after the merge? Better off burning money to get your heat that way. I love reading the cryptobro comments on youtube all saying how excited they are about still mining after the merge. We'll see how long they hold out after watching 2 grand per month drain out of their accounts in electricity costs with no returns.
 

VirtualLarry

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Mining after the merge? Better off burning money to get your heat that way. I love reading the cryptobro comments on youtube all saying how excited they are about still mining after the merge. We'll see how long they hold out after watching 2 grand per month drain out of their accounts in electricity costs with no returns.
You forget, mining is like Electric Cockroaches. They may flourish while the getting's good, but good luck wiping them all out...
 

VirtualLarry

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Isn't the difficulty bomb going to make mining way way less profitable?
I meant post-Merge, of course. The GDDR6X cards have a memory bandwidth advantage. You're right though, that advantage was most pronounced with ETHhash, although ETChash isn't much off of that.
 
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Shmee

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To my understanding, there will be no more ETH mining. But there is still ETC. IDK how the profitability of that will be then though.
 

KompuKare

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To my understanding, there will be no more ETH mining. But there is still ETC. IDK how the profitability of that will be then though.

Well, before power a 3090 currently makes $1.46 according to Whattomine's calculator. Each 10c per kWh costs about $0.70 so anyone paying $0.20 or more per kWh would be mining that just to generate (free) heating.

Now rationality is not part of mining, however currently ETC has 50.23 Th/s pointed at it (again from Whattomine) while ETH has 899.20 Th/s pointing at it.

Ergo, when ETH is no more and even 50% of the miners point to ETC then the rewards go down to less than 1/10th: $0.14 or so.

Now, I'm sure with the amount of speculative money in crypto someone will try artificially bumps some altcoin but I think it's all over at last.
 

Insert_Nickname

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I read that after the merge happens, mining Ethereum abruptly halts. It sounds like the difficulty doesn't even matter at that point because it's just like cockroach poison: they just DIE.

Ah, humans and cockroaches. Two species that are impossible to get rid off...

(It's an obscure quote from a very well known franchise, so bonus points if you know where... :cool:)
 
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Hanging out at the P&N section? :p
Mostly IRL. See it all the time all around me. Subordinates being screwed over by managers. The implicit threat of giving a bad review if you disagree too much. Making small of other people's real life problems because they make so much money that those problems seem like a joke and actually amusing to them.
 

Ranulf

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Well, this could go in this thread or the other one on the video maker but this does cover gpu prices. Anyway, Jayztwocents has learned about Nvidia manipulating the market by listening to their Q2 earnings call. So here is Nvidia's plan to manipulate the market this fall...that they did back in 2018. The thing Jay complained about in his July pricing videos.

 
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GodisanAtheist

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Without even watching the video is it some crap about NV slotting the next gen of cards above the current gen and just inflating prices? Or does it involve NV with-holding inventory and slowly trickling it out to maintain scarcity?

I mean if so, then yeah no ****. The wildcard here is the potential flood of used cards hitting the market from miners who have no intention of picking up an RTX 4xxx series card, not a lot NV can do to really manipulate that situation outside of some sort of buyback program for mined cards.
 
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They could cause some artificial panic where the card holders start to believe that prices will soon rise, preventing them from putting their cards up for sale, which will reduce supply. One way would be to get all retailers to raise prices in unison. Then suddenly, people start buying out of fear of an even greater price increase.

Buy on the way up. Sell on the way down.
 

mastertech01

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They could cause some artificial panic where the card holders start to believe that prices will soon rise, preventing them from putting their cards up for sale, which will reduce supply. One way would be to get all retailers to raise prices in unison. Then suddenly, people start buying out of fear of an even greater price increase.

Buy on the way up. Sell on the way down.
Or another fake shortage
 
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Ranulf

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Without even watching the video is it some crap about NV slotting the next gen of cards above the current gen and just inflating prices? Or does it involve NV with-holding inventory and slowly trickling it out to maintain scarcity?

The second part. You know, what they did in 2018 that had him so worried for his viewers that he said they should go buy cards because prices weren't going to drop even further. The difference being this isn't the 2018 economy, crypto has popped again or eth goes proof of stake and energy prices mean no one can afford to mine at a profit even if the bubble hadn't popped. That and people may not want to pay even "normal" gpu prices for cards that suck up 300-350w when they can't afford heat costs in winter.
 
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